St. Louis Cardinals fans chant “Africa! Africa!” at Ferguson protesters

[Cali_Democrat]

Ferguson protestors emerged at Busch Stadium last night after game three of the NLDS playoff game between the St. Louis Cardinals and the visiting Los Angeles Dodgers; and wow, did things get ugly real fast.

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At the top of the video, an older gentleman looks directly at the camera and shouts about how if these (all-black) protestors had been working (at night?) “we wouldn’t have this problem!”

The crowd soon begins chanting “Let’s go Cardinals!” to drown out the protestors’ chant about “shutting the shit down” if they aren’t given justice for slain 18-year-old Michael Brown. That Cards chant quickly changed into “Let’s go Darren!” referring to Officer Darren Wilson, the Ferguson cop who killed the young man.

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While one protestor waves an upside-down American flag (symbolic of “country in distress”), a blonde lady enters, telling the crowd: “We’re the ones who fuckin’ gave all y’all the freedoms that you have!” Another lady takes it upon herself to question the cameraman’s background, suggesting she doesn’t believe he’s an ex-Marine, while asking incoherent questions about his rank. All fun times.

Peppered throughout the rest of the video are “USA! USA!” chants from the Cards fans, along with one woman getting real clever and shouting at the protestors: “Africa! Africa!” There were also more calls for the protestors to get jobs, pick up their pants, and remove their caps.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cringe-at-the-ugly-way-these-cardinals-fans-taunt-ferguson-protestors/

[nomorenomore08]

1. As a Giants fan, I almost want to thank these assholes for their utterly tasteless behavior.

The Cardinals, on the other hand, should be worried about their public image. With fans like these...

[HuckleB]

9. You want to "thank" them?

Sports fandom is all about entertainment. Please don't confuse it with something of importance, like bigotry.

[nomorenomore08]

12. I was being facetious. Regardless, your point is well taken. n/t

[HuckleB]

49. OK, then. You win the day!

[DonCoquixote]

2. if/when Hillary wins

It will be scary to see the same people that were encouraged to finally stop pretending they did not hate black people get the same momentum when they decide they can stop pretending to hate women.

[Scootaloo]

15. After watching the PUMA paroxysm in 2008....

Those are some of the people who will be cheering her campaign

[DonCoquixote]

70. I see that ugly trith and raise ye one

many of those people are the ones Hillary thinks she can win over, so she will trot Bill out again to say shit like "I got mugged" or "Not as far as I know" or any of the gaffes Hillary should have known better than to allow Bill to say. They are also the ones that will get twice the time and support when she gets elected.

[merrily]

77. Hillary, who identified her constituents as "hard-working white people?" That Hillary?

That was the culmination of a number of "racially-tinged" events in her campaign, "racially-tinged" being a term I never encountered before I heard it used to describe things that Bill Clinton, Ferrara, Cuomo, etc. said on behalf of Hillary.

And then, there was this, from "the first black President," who told Ted Kennedy that the only reason TK was backing Obama was that Obama was African American.

Bill Clinton On Obama: 'A Few Years Ago, This Guy Would Have Been Getting Us Coffee'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/10/game-change-bill-clinton-_n_417546.html

[Fred Sanders]

3. St. Louis fans? Red neck racists more like it. A suit may make the man, a jersey not so much.

Bit of alcohol always helps with the racism and rants also, I bet.

[sheshe2]

16. FYI~

On Sat Oct 11, 2014, 09:01 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

St. Louis fans? Red neck racists more like it. A suit may make the man, a jersey not so much.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5653873

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

What a broad brush attack. We have a lot of St. Louis fans here on DU. They're not "red neck racists".

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Oct 11, 2014, 09:16 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I think the Reply was calling the fans who were chanting "Africa!" the racists, not the St Louis fans. Fred is saying the chanters are racists, not the fans of St. Louis.
Its a misunderstanding that Fred should clarify.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I read it differently than the alerter.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Fred needs to dial things back a little.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: with all due respect to the alerter, the comment was directed at red-neck racists in the stadium
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No it was not a broad brush. Fred was responding to the fans racist remarks in the OP. You did watch the video correct, that is who he was responding to! Don't make this about you unless it is.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm going to go with 'leave', because it's unclear whether the alerted-upon commenter is actually broad-brushing all St Louis fans, or is actually in agreement with the alerter, and is specifically saying the specific people chanting 'Africa' are 'red neck racists' and shouldn't be referred to as 'St Louis fans' as in the original story.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Fred Sanders]

22. I was shocked to see it alerted. The explanation one juror gave is also mine.

Leave It Alone

"Explanation: I'm going to go with 'leave', because it's unclear whether the alerted-upon commenter is actually broad-brushing all St Louis fans, or is actually in agreement with the alerter, and is specifically saying the specific people chanting 'Africa' are 'red neck racists' and shouldn't be referred to as 'St Louis fans' as in the original story."

This is my 90th day since my last hide....tragic if I got another 90 days of probation.

[sheshe2]

23. That wasn't mine but close...

There are a lot of alert happy trigger fingers here.

[enough]

4. k&r for the clear demonstration of actual insanity. (nt)

[Blue_Tires]

5. I know there are some decent cards fans out there

probably time for some self-policing...

[pangaia]

20. Thanks,,,

[Dont call me Shirley]

104. Go Royals! How about another I-70 WS?

[Gore1FL]

6. The protesters are Cardinals fans too. n/t

[HuckleB]

10. That's probably true, but its irrelevant.

If a group of fans is acting like this, it means other fans need to stand up to them AS FANS! These folks clearly had a purpose of a different nature, and don't seem to have as much invested in the outcome of the games. So, there is no excuse for the behavior of the "superfans."

[Gore1FL]

13. There probably are fans doing so. There are probably others fleeing from them.

Trouble makers look for trouble. So does the media.

[HuckleB]

47. I don't buy it.

It's a cultural issue with St. Louis. No group has stood up against it.

[Gore1FL]

65. I'll take your word for it.

Because living here for almost 50 years obviously puts me at a disadvantage when it comes to knowledge of the area.

[KingCharlemagne]

61. You're funny. Did you actually watch the video? Did you see any fans 'fleeing' from

the yokels yelling 'Let's Go Darren'?? I sure as hell didn't.

BTW, all the pro-Cardinals fans in video I can see are white. Co-inky-dink? Methinks not.

[Gore1FL]

64. I know enough about Busch stadium to know the entirety of the crowd was not captured in the video

I live here. You are making assumption based on limited information.

Have a nice day.

[KingCharlemagne]

80. Your argument falls into the same category as "You can't judge the actions of all

cops by the actions of a few bad apples."

Well, excuse me, until the good cops start arresting the bad cops, that particular trope should be laid to rest.

Same goes with fans.

I have relatives who live in the greater St. Louis area (and are big Cards fans). Short of wearing sheets and hoods, they're about as racist as they come in post-60s America. We're talking driving down the road, seeing a driver do something they don't like and shouting "You fu*king n****r" immediately, like some reflex action. Often times said driver is white, but makes no difference.

I'm ashamed to admit I share the same gene pool (mother's side) with these lumpenproles. I haven't had anything to do with these relatives for 25-odd years, but seeing this video sure triggered some personal memories. I was searching the crowd half-expecting to see my relatives there.

So forgive me for making assumptions based on limited information but also on directly-experienced personal history.

[Gore1FL]

96. So as a Cardinals fan, I am therefore a racist because of your all-trumping anecdotes?

You're an idiot.

[branford]

98. Try generalizing other large, diverse groups, and see what happens . . .

[Oktober]

117. Just depends on the group it seems...

[Solly Mack]

7. Disgusting.

[paleotn]

8. There's no racism in America...

...nope, nada. What a wonderful, post racial society we live in.

[aggiesal]

34. Yup, the Supreme Court told us ...

there is no more racism, so it must true.

We all know how revered the Supreme Court is these days.

[RKP5637]

102. They used to wear hoods, now, they are proud of their racism, ugly Americans. n/t

[City Lights]

11. I typically don't give a shit about baseball, but

in light of this, I hope the fucking Cardinals lose.

[pangaia]

21. Hey, I resent you calling my Cardinals "fucking."

This was a bunch of idiot, racist fans. Could happen at any sporting event.

GO CARDS !!!

[City Lights]

31. Poor placement of "fucking" on my part.

Should have said "I hope the Cardinals fucking lose." Sorry.

[pangaia]

73. That's much better.

That I can accept.
And they did.

[City Lights]

74. ...

[pangaia]

75. Thing is, I like the Giants also.

And if KC wins, wouldn't THAT be something.
And my closest friend for 50 some years is a Baltimore fan, from Baltimore.
What to do, what to do?

[City Lights]

76. Tough choices.

Listen to your heart.

[KingCharlemagne]

54. I hope the black and Latino players on the team . . . GASP! . . .

refuse to play.

St. Louis can have its racism and white supremacy or it can have its silly baseball game, but it CAN'T HAVE BOTH!

[Gemini Cat]

14. Wow.

A whole lot of ugly there.
Post racial America, my ass.

[customerserviceguy]

17. Protestors are showing up at public events

like the symphony, and this playoff game, where people pay for expensive tickets to get in. Did they not expect some sort of blowback?

Frankly, I think they're hurting their cause, as they make people who have no stake in the outcome of the shooting start thinking about taking a side in this...

[marmar]

25. "as they make people who have no stake...start thinking about taking a side"

Yes, they make them shout idiotic, racist chants. Jesus, Mary and Joseph.

[customerserviceguy]

82. That's the most visible part of it

What's important is what's going on in the minds of those not saying anything.

[NuclearDem]

26. Yeah, it's a real tragedy, white folks being inconvenienced.

First they can't even go out to lunch, now they can't go to sports games.

We shall overcome!

[KingCharlemagne]

58. Best post ever! Sincerest hat tip.

[customerserviceguy]

83. If you're trying to get someone on your side

you don't piss them off. Not a tough concept to understand.

[NuclearDem]

94. What mockery of justice that white people can't enjoy themselves

without being reminded of other people's problems.

Hands up! Don't bug!

[customerserviceguy]

95. Yeah, it sure worked well

for the Occupy Wall Street protesters, why I was so inspired when the banksters were frog-marched into waiting patrol cars.

You've got to be smart about picking the time, place, and content of your message if you really want to get people on your side instead of alienating them.

[NuclearDem]

97. Yeah, which is why Occupy fizzled out after they disrupted traffic in NYC.

Oh wait, no they fucking didn't.



Thanks for playing the nirvana fallacy game though.

[customerserviceguy]

111. And where is OWS today

And what goals have they accomplished? They sure look like they fizzled out to me, but your perception may vary.

[NuclearDem]

116. That question has been asked and answered so many times.

The camps are gone, but Occupy isn't. It doesn't function like that anymore, but that doesn't mean they've all but disappeared. Anyone who's had their medical debts relieved by StrikeDebt can attest to that.

Not to mention they singlehandedly changed the discussion almost overnight in this country to income inequality and gave a real platform for people like Warren to surge in popularity.

If you think Occupy didn't accomplish anything just because the bankers are still in power and capitalism still exists, then you're not paying the slightest bit of attention.

[customerserviceguy]

124. OK, I'll admit

Elizabeth Warren got elected after OWS started, but I think that would have happened anyway.

Yes, there are some people talking about income inequality, but in a few weeks we'll have more results at the ballot box about how their discussions were received. If the Repukes take over the Senate, then will it mean that OWS really isn't a factor any more?

StrikeDebt is just another charity that gathers donations and delivers them to people in need. It's hardly revolutionary, although I do acknowledge the good that it does for people. Also, it's financed in a conventional way, seeking voluntary donations, and not shaking people down in the street.

I suggest that the Ferguson protesters learn from this example, and choose carefully the ways they go about to get their message across. Baseball playoff games might not be the very best venue to find sympathy for their cause.

[Iggo]

27. Yeah! You're right!

There should probably be separate fenced-off areas where these unruly people can protest, away from the good decent expensive ticket holders.

And we could give these areas a cute name, like Free Speech Zones.

Aw, yeah! That'd be great!

[customerserviceguy]

84. We have public streets and public parks

where people can protest, and the local news will always cover them. You want to persuade people to your point of view, not alienate them.

[NYC Liberal]

28. And that causes them to suddenly become racists? Bullshit.

It'd be one thing if they'd just yelled at them to shut up or something. But they went far beyond that and showed their racism for all to see

[customerserviceguy]

85. The relative handful of boorish clowns who did this

is crystal clear where they stand on the issue. It's the folks who didn't say racist things that I feel the protesters should be concerned about. Matching bad manners with bad behavior may just have those folks conclude that neither side is right, at best. At worst, it makes those who didn't participate in the taunts affirm that they will indeed do so at the next opportunity.

[Cali_Democrat]

32. WTF?

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Those poor racists who paid a lot of money for tickets.

[customerserviceguy]

86. It isn't even about the money

Remember the ACT-UP activists who would disrupt religious services of those they considered in opposition? Yeah, that brought about a cure for AIDS/HIV really fast, didn't it.

[awoke_in_2003]

36. you always manage

to go right up to the line.

[customerserviceguy]

87. What line is that?

Am I wrong to articulate a point of view that the tactics being used by some of the Ferguson protesters may well be counterproductive?

[branford]

99. I tried raising your very same points about strategy in the other recent St. Louis thread.

It was, at best, futile, and more generally, hostile.

I sadly think many follow an "any means necessary" approach to these important issues, and you're essentially with them, or against them.

[customerserviceguy]

110. Some here

feel that 'revolution' is all they have left available to them. It almost never works out for the revolutionaries.

[Oktober]

118. Revolution though the power of annoyance....

[JonLP24]

130. I saw that other thread

I agreed with pretty much all of your points and found it baffling people were questioning you intentions when you seem so straight-forward. With that said, I'd be very careful allying yourself with this poster. Let's say there is a "history" which I have not seen regarding your posts.

[branford]

132. I don't know that poster, you or anyone else really on an anonymous board.

That's kind of the point. However, I do understand your concerns and take your meaning, and your warning is appreciated.

Nevertheless, regardless of who may raise them, the basic issues still stand and are often a great detriment to our party and policies - what amounts to a purity test among Democrats and self-styled "revolutionary" policies and actions that are not only are not widely supported, but counterproductive and actually alienate and anger potential allies.

[JonLP24]

133. Basically all I was saying

the "to the line" comment didn't come out of nowhere. Certain things said here can seem strange or out-of-place without background.

In regards, I agreed with you hacking the accounts of t-shirt makers or finding some way to shut them down (going for copyright infringement--how many sports team are named Cardinals?) when the best thing to do is ignore them. Another option is reason with them but I found trying to reason w/ many racists/bigots is as effective as banging my head against the wall but you may earn a few converts that way.

As far as the sub-thread goes the protest was non-violent & peaceful which you agreed in the other thread was the preferred choice while customerserviceguy argued the presence & place could sway those "on the fence" to the other side but I think that is weak. You have people making racist comments publicly(how does the affect those "on the fence&quot so why do the protesters or anyone on this side of the issue always have to worry about how to act when the other side doesn't a system that doesn't play fair to begin with.

Most people note MLK as being more effective than other leaders at-the-time, I agree but I also feel he is more effective that most US Presidents and other notable people throughout history but I feel the whole movement led to change. With things going in Calfornia, New York, the South, and the Midwest change was inevitable.

[Dustlawyer]

41. All Americans have a stake in this!

[customerserviceguy]

88. Yes, they do

And it's the job of the protesters to educate those Americans who think that it's somebody else's problem that they are incorrect. I'm just saying that you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar.

[shallwechat]

66. st louis symphony orchestra

The concert goes at the symphony were not calling them by stereotypical names. The conductor stooped, the audience listened and both audience and orchestra members clapped politely, and conductor resumed.

[customerserviceguy]

89. Clearly, they were a more refined audience

I risk being stereotypical if I said that symphony goers were more sophisticated people than those attending a sports event, but I'll take that risk. I do recall some discussion here of some of the symphony attendees being less than thrilled about the protest, however.

What we don't know is what those who neither jeered nor clapped thought about this, and how it will influence their future decisions about this issue.

[yesiwasacop]

103. im pretty sure there was no alcohol being consumed in the symphony hall

as opposed to the game. Get people a little liquored up and they just might say something they wouldnt otherwise.

I agree that going and interrupting an event people paid to see is probably counterproductive. Those who are on the side of Brown will still be, those who already were not, probably will not change their mind. Those on the fence- well I'm betting most are not impressed.Sure maybe a few are, but I'm betting the majority now have a negative opinion, as if the images of Ferguson businesses being torched didnt already give them a negative vibe.

[customerserviceguy]

108. That's clearly a factor

But as the Romans said, "In vino veritas" or in English, "In wine there is truth" perhaps the ballgame attendees were being honest about their feelings (admittedly in a very boorish way) that the symphony attendees who were less than sympathetic were willing to admit in that venue.

Yes, the protest needs to be sincere and frequent, but it needs to do so in such a way as it captivates the attention and interest of the target audience, without ticking them off and causing them to come to a snap decision that the protest is unworthy of their support or further attention.

[Rex]

68. Kewl story bro!

[customerserviceguy]

90. Not sure how to take your response, but

A lot of folks here think that the Sixties were a time of great progress, but it wasn't all peace, love and pot. I vividly recall the fears of race wars from 1965 through 1968 which took place AFTER the great civil rights Acts of the post-JFK era were enacted.

"Burn, baby, burn" might have sounded like a good idea to people who thought they had nothing to lose, but it led to Richard Nixon winning the election with his "silent majority" responding to his campaign slogan of "Law and Order". Yes, it was a dog whistle long before it was the title of a series of cop and lawyer shows. And that was with George Wallace bleeding off the votes of the most racist parts of the electorate in all fifty states. Nixon won on Election Night without the 45 electoral votes of Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia.

How's that for a "kewl story", bro? Scares the crap out of me.

[branford]

100. Exhibit A - The Detroit Riots of 1967. The city never fully recovered. n/t

[customerserviceguy]

109. Good point

It seemed that the rioters of the 65-68 period suddenly learned that nothing positive would result from further urban destruction, and suddenly stopped. That seemed to further reinforce the "law and order" message of Nixon, unfortunately.

[branford]

115. There's a word for doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results . . .

Rioting and other violence, at best, may provide a fleeting sense of cathartic release , but in the long-term, will destroy mostly minority-owned homes and businesses, will change few minds, and may actually justify and reinforce the very racism it opposes as many whites and others, who before did not hold racist views, watch on their TV's and computers as large group of minorities burn their own towns and cities and hurt innocents for nothing less than the color of their skin.

The current generation has mostly avoided these gruesome images. It is for the best, and I hope the protesters follow the example of MLK.

[gollygee]

112. So you think it's perfectly natural

for people to respond in racist ways when they're bummed out about their event being interrupted? I might be able to see your argument if they'd just expressed upset about the inconvenience, but the way they responded was specifically racist, and nice people don't respond like that even if they're inconvenienced or upset or both.

[customerserviceguy]

114. It is natural

for some people, especially when engaged in a 'tribal' event (such as cheering on their sports team with tens of thousands of like-minded people around them) to react in ways they would not attempt in one-on-one situations where they were not faceless and nameless.

Look at the difference between the racism openly expressed on Internet postings versus what you see in everyday life. Anonymity confers a shield that allows inappropriate things to be said.

Road rage is a more common form of "you get in my face, well, goddam it, I'll get back in yours". This protest at a major sporting event could have been expected to produce a non-sympathetic result. I surmise that the protesters planned it that way, to get even more coverage of their protest.

[gollygee]

122. No, that just isn't so

People who would turn to racism at a sporting event are holding racism in their hearts, and it might very well be that a lot of people harbor racist feelings, but that doesn't make it OK.

And I feel very sure that no protestors would hope that people would react like that. They would know it was a possibility, but there is no way they planned for it to exploit it to get more coverage of their protest. That's just a mean spirited thing to say.

Also, a sporting even does not make people behave more "tribally" and therefore become more racist. That's just ridiculous.

[customerserviceguy]

123. Well, now they know

They're not always going to be perceived well, and they should carefully consider where they protest next, because that latent racism is more likely to come out in some venues than others.

As for the "tribal" thing, I offer the occasional beatings of those wearing the 'wrong' team's gear to a game. Sports often encourages an 'us versus them' mentality, and little is done to curb taunting of the other team by fans of the home team.

[LanternWaste]

126. I can certainly understand the sentiment many have to use "blowback" rather than more accurate label

"some sort of blowback? "

I can certainly understand the sentiment many have to use "blowback" rather than more accurate and telling appellations of their reactions...

[customerserviceguy]

127. Would the term

non-positive response have been more acceptable to you? I just grabbed the first word that popped in my head, sorry that it was not precise enough for you.

[JonLP24]

129. Who needs supporters like the ones described in OP

"Africa, Africa" -- seriously?

If they weren't supporters of the other side already, they would make horrible allies if they choose a side over outrage at an injustice.

[customerserviceguy]

131. Clearly, they were at the extreme end of the spectrum

when it comes to where one stands on the community vs. the cops situation in Ferguson. It's people in the middle who have not yet decided which side to stand with who matter at this point. Alienating them isn't going to win friends for either side.

[onehandle]

18. Newsflash: These people are way more likely to vote in November than Obama voters.

Morans define 'merica.

(Note the tshirt)

[IMG][/IMG]

[LeftyMom]

24. That guy actually runs a forum for Cards fans.

http://www.birdsonthebat.org/

[merrily]

78. That one never gets old.

[Rhinodawg]

121. Does he know he's a laughing stock on the internet ?

[gollygee]

19. Wow. That woman looks so angry.

This is really sad.

[NBachers]

33. Absolutely demon-posessed insane hatred

I really don't care how much it corrodes her innards, but it's corroding our nation and our planet, too.

[fadedrose]

29. Tragic, very sad

[alp227]

35. Pfft. You'd think racists only are racist on the Internet.

Thankfully, these bigots are willing to show off their bigotry to their targets' faces.

By the way, my GIANTS are loadin' the bases in the top of the 7th with a 3-0 lead. Stay classy, Cards fans. Yankees fans are starting to look like decent human beings now.

[joanbarnes]

37. Darren Wilson should surrender.

[NaturalHigh]

39. To whom?

He has testified in front of a grand jury and has not been charged with anything. He is not a fugitive.

To whom should he surrender? I don't think any law enforcement agency is looking for him.

[branford]

101. I have a sinking feeling that he means Wilson should surrender to the waiting and angry mob... n/t

[NaturalHigh]

106. Well, I hope not, but I was kind of wondering about that.

[Oktober]

119. *crickets*

[Hoppy]

38. U.S.A., U.S.A., U.S.A., ---

That sums it up for a lot of people.

How mindless.

[Cha]

40. What's up with that zombie looking woman in the pic.. what crawled up her ass?

[sheshe2]

46. Hate Stupidity and Racism Cha...

That is what crawled up her ass! Stupid Stupid People!

So very ugly!

[Cha]

50. Time for some PropaneJane, she..

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/10/08/the-truth-about-racism-in-140-characters/

BAM! Michael Brown

"Because We are Americans….We have paid for our citizenship through our blood… sweat…. and tears…"

You.. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5636803

[sheshe2]

55. Oh yes, Cha.

"Because We are Americans….We have paid for our citizenship through our blood… sweat…. and tears…"

Thanks for the replay. Perfect!

[Skidmore]

92. Tell it! I may actually have

to use my Twitter account. Well stated all around.

[Cha]

107. Isn't it just, Skidmore!

[Skidmore]

93. Ugly combination, isn't it?

Fear too. Fear of losing I don't know what. They definitely have losr compassion, empathy, and a sense of a just world.

[sheshe2]

105. It is ugly Skidmore.

My thoughts? They are afraid of losing their "White America".

Miriam Ibarra holds her 6-month old son, Andrew Chavaria. For the first time, America's racial and ethnic minorities now make up about half of the under-5 age group.

By Hope Yen, Associated Press
For the first time, America's racial and ethnic minorities now make up about half of the under-5 age group, the government said Thursday. It's a historic shift that shows how young people are at the forefront of sweeping changes by race and class.

The new census estimates, a snapshot of the U.S. population as of July 2012, comes a year after the Census Bureau reported that whites had fallen to a minority among babies. Fueled by immigration and high rates of birth, particularly among Hispanics, racial and ethnic minorities are now growing more rapidly in numbers than whites.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/13/18934111-census-white-majority-in-us-gone-by-2043?lite

[DisgustipatedinCA]

42. Maybe they can start chanting "we suck really bad". 3-0, Giants win.

Yes, I'm using sports as a proxy. It makes me happy when San Francisco wins, and even more so when they beat my 1%er boss's team. I consider it a bonus that the racists shown above are crying in their beers right now.

[Iggo]

45. I'm a Dodger fan, and I never never NEVER root for the Hated Giants.

But I am in this series.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

51. That works for me.

I don't have personal animus toward the Cardinals or any of their players, but I do hope my boss ("taxes are theft&quot wasted a lot of money on his tickets. This ugly racism on display is a whole other thing, and it embarrasses me as an American that we've regressed so far.

[Iggo]

60. They're bigots and I hope their team loses.

[davidpdx]

43. Some ugly shit

I'm in no way defending those in the "crowd" but it appears it was about 10 idiots who were yelling "Darren", the majority of people seem to be just standing there.

When they were doing the "let's go Mike Brown, let's go Cardinals" I think that was fairly respectable.

It is a handful of drunk white idiots who are being assholes.

[Hulk]

44. A perfect unsealed example of the racism that exists in AmeriKKKa.

THIS is what is under the surface. This is what fox-nonsense denies 24/7, and they act as if they are surprised anyone would even accuse America of being a racist nation. It comes to the surface, and it shows bright and ugly in this story. Racism is a alive and festering in America, and don't kid yourself.

[KingCharlemagne]

53. This is a report about the game on October 6, if I'm reading it correctly. Were there

any protests at today's game?

[damnedifIknow]

56. She looks flat out crazed

[Liberal_in_LA]

113. her racist behavior posted on the internet. i wonder if she's cringing now

[navarth]

57. great suffering bloodstained godz.

I just watched as much of that video as I could. If I was a Cardinals fan I would be mortified. I would have expected a lot of those white folks to be supportive and chanting with the protestors, not saying 'let's go Darren'. I continue to be shocked at how badly we're doing in America.

What the fuck. Just what the fuck.

(on edit) Maybe I should go out of my way to point out that I have no reason to think the fine city of St. Louis is any worse than anyplace else. We've got our share of racist assholes in the Detroit area (I've seen and heard them) and other cities have this trouble too. It's not confined to one place. I can tell you truthfully I've never seen anything this ugly in D Town but I won't make any claims of being holier than thou. I can guarantee you that I would have climbed over the fence and joined the protestors though. Count on that.

Edited for fairness.

[navarth]

72. I wish you all could have seen this reply to my post that got auto removed.

I saw it before it got trashed. I remember the name. There's no way that could have been a DUer. I'll be watching to see if that fucking asshole posts again. That's all I feel safe in saying, I don't know if it's allowed to say more.

Once again I am disappointed and angry about the ugliness in people.

[True Blue Door]

59. Pulling the bandaid off the assembled Klansmen.

[AtomicKitten]

67. .

goddamit

[Rex]

69. They look like zombies.

Pictures sure do have a way of bringing out the true person inside.

[logosoco]

71. This has really turned the play offs ugly for me.

I have lived in the St. Louis area my whole life. I joke that I was being built at the same time as the original Busch Stadium and just mention the word Cardinals at any time of the year and my family is talking. So this really hurts to see these fans showing their ignorance.

They don't even seem to understand that when they are chanting "USA! USA!" they are speaking of a country with a Constitution that has an amendment that protects unreasonable searches. That is a big part of what the protesters are speaking up about.

From the pictures, I am guessing that many of these people don't really have a clue of what it is like to walk around and be harassed by the police. So they can't understand why it would bother anyone else.

But that one who shouted about "giving freedoms", somebody really needs to send her back to school. Being ignorant is one thing, but shouting those stupid things is just wrong.

[merrily]

79. Ugh.

MIRT seems to be all over this thread, thank goodness.

[Cali_Democrat]

81. Ya...threads like this usually bring out the Stormfront types

They hate it when their racism gets exposed.

They usually get banned within minutes after their first post.

Their posts usually consist of tirades against black people and white liberals.

[merrily]

91. Ugh. They should let the MIRT team enjoy their Sunday.

[KamaAina]

125. And yet the baseball gods have as yet failed to punish them.

[Cali_Democrat]

135. They've been punished.

Cardinals out!

[KamaAina]

136. BAM!

[lunasun]

128. Wow ugly can't get uglier than these haters

[Cali_Democrat]

134. Well the Cardinals lost tonight and they are ELIMINATED

These fans aren't too happy tonight...