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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 06:09 PM Oct 2014

MH17 Passenger Was Found Wearing Oxygen Mask, Dutch Official Says

(CNN) -- A passenger on Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was found wearing an oxygen mask when the victim's body was recovered in eastern Ukraine, the Dutch foreign minister and public prosecutor's office said.

"They did not see the missile coming; but you know that someone was found with an oxygen mask over (his or her) mouth? So (he or she) had time to do that," Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans told the Dutch talk show "Pauw" on Wednesday.

The Dutch public prosecutor confirmed the minister's account, saying that "during the identification process an oxygen mask was indeed found on a victim."

"The mask was attached around the victim's neck with an elastic strap. The Netherlands Forensic Institute examined the mask for fingerprints, saliva and DNA, but the results were inconclusive," the prosecutor's office said in a statement Thursday."It is not known how and at what point the mask came to be around the victim's neck. The passenger's relatives were informed at the time. None of the other victims recovered were found to be wearing oxygen masks."

New information raises questions

The statements raise questions about what happened in the moments after the Boeing 777 was allegedly hit by a missile over eastern Ukraine July 17, in an area controlled by pro-Russian separatists. The fact that a passenger was able to put on an oxygen mask seems to dispel the idea that all 298 people on board were killed instantly in the air.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/09/world/europe/malaysia-airlines-crash-oxygen-mask/index.html

Hmmmm....

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MH17 Passenger Was Found Wearing Oxygen Mask, Dutch Official Says (Original Post) Purveyor Oct 2014 OP
That doesn't surprise me that one or more people could get a mask on as the plane falls. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2014 #1
Exactly what I was going to say.... Takket Oct 2014 #2
It looks as though the missile peppered the cockpit with shrapnel NickB79 Oct 2014 #4
Post mortem as some sort of morbid joke by the looting rebel militia "guarding" the site..... marble falls Oct 2014 #3

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
1. That doesn't surprise me that one or more people could get a mask on as the plane falls.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 06:23 PM
Oct 2014

It s a big airplane and I doubt the missile was large enough to kill 298 people "instantly"

Takket

(21,561 posts)
2. Exactly what I was going to say....
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 06:34 PM
Oct 2014

A missed is not going to kill everyone on a plane instantly. And it takes at least a couple of minutes to drop from the sky.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
4. It looks as though the missile peppered the cockpit with shrapnel
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 06:52 PM
Oct 2014


These warheads don't make direct contact with aircraft like you see in movies; it's very hard to hit a moving target directly like that. They detonate a shaped charge to create a "cone of metal" directed at the target.

You don't try to shoot a duck out of the air with a deer rifle; you use a shotgun firing a pattern of pellets to improve your odds.

The airbags would deploy automatically once cabin pressure was lost. It wouldn't be surprising that a few passengers were able to put on masks in the few seconds before the plane started to break up.

marble falls

(57,077 posts)
3. Post mortem as some sort of morbid joke by the looting rebel militia "guarding" the site.....
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 06:36 PM
Oct 2014

perhaps a plant by a operative from another interested county?

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