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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDedicated to the Charlie Crist haters who won't vote for him just because.
Sometimes there's a good reason to vote for someone because that person is not Rick Scott.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I don't vote for evil.
I find another choice.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Luckily. Wouldn't want either of those fools running my state.
It's bad enough the choices I have in CT
edit: Bad enough the choices for Gov I have in CT.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)Do you understand (if you were in FL) that much more actual harm will come to many more people under Scott than Christ. Likely people dying because of his policies.
This the fucking real world. It's not a utopia and never will be.
There are people in the mud underfoot getting trample while you maintain your purity.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I am just saying how I vote. I hope folks vote for the person that they believe is the best candidate.
That said, I am not comfortable with voting for the lesser of the two evil options. Luckily, in CT, I have options.
For example, 2012. I did not vote for Obama since I knew he was going to win big in CT with or without my vote.
No harm, no foul.
Have a good one.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)the deciding vote. Am I correct in reading your previous comment that way.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I would consider several options (other candidates, polling, etc) before I would make a final decision, as I do in CT.
For example, in 2012, if the polls showed that Romney and Obama were neck and neck heading into election day, I would of voted for Obama.
Granted, you sometimes can't take these polls too seriously, but I think they are still a good enough judge, especially in CT, where the D candidate usually has an advantage.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)would you vote for Crist, assuming if there was another candidate (s)he had no cahnce?
It's a simple question.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)and I had exhausted all other options, I would probably vote for Crist.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Here at this forum now a person is damned if they vote against someone and damned if they don't.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Have you heard that Crist is now a Democrat?
And my ignore list gets another person to eat.
still_one
(92,062 posts)The republicans do not represent his views period
JI7
(89,241 posts)they come off as really hateful and inconsiderate with no concern for those who will suffer.
still_one
(92,062 posts)Agree on most things, and Crist subscribes more to Democratic principals than Scott
But I don't live in Florida, and it is their problem
However, if it was for a Senate seat, and that pseudo reasoning was used, it would even be more inane
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)At least Crist will get the state health department to move on rapid implementation of the medical use of cannabis should it pass and he win. Scott will drag his heels and make it impossible.
Yes on #2 and Charlie Crist too. The attorney who sponsored the amendment is the same who hired Crist. Crist will comply with Morgan's desire to get cannabis out there to those who need it.
JI7
(89,241 posts)and knew democrats were going to benefit. and he will do it now.
i know some don't consider right to vote for minorities to be a big issue but it matters to me.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Help many without health care here now.
JI7
(89,241 posts)when he was Governor he made sure everyone was able to vote and kept polls open to let everyone who wanted to vote do so. in an election where Democrats were going to benefit the most from this.
at this time he was a republican and his entire political future was going to be based on that. he could have easily been sleazy like other republicans and did all he can to prevent people from voting but he didn't.
so i think just the issue of voting rights is a big thing and good reason to vote for him over creepy.
flvegan
(64,407 posts)It's true that Republicans (and other idiots with the ability to cast a vote) when faced with the reality in the LAST election that Scott was a scumsucking weasel thief STILL voted for him, regardless, I'll be happy to vote for whatever D is rolled out for me to vote for. I don't have an actual choice (much like the bigger stages, but whatever). Crist will be much better than another round of Skeletor.
former9thward
(31,949 posts)if he thought it would help him. The same people slamming him when he was GOP are now praising him.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)He often acts more like a Democrat than many of our party leaders in Florida act.
Tweedy
(628 posts)Gov. Christ accepted the stimulus money Florida desperately needed publicly when other gop governors turned it down, attacked it and then went to ribbon cutting ceremonies paid for by it. Gov. Scott is a welfare fraudster, and goodness knows what else. Making the perfect (does such a candidate even exist?) the enemy of the good, leaves Florida in the hands of Gov. Scott.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)There's a big gap between dislike and outright loathing
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)Vote Charlie .
DrDan
(20,411 posts)Sancho
(9,067 posts)as much as I appreciate that people want a perfect progressive, liberal candidate - it's never happened in my lifetime and likely never will.
There are very clear differences between Scott and Crist - and it's not even a close call. If you are a Democrat (or even someone who believes in the environment, women's issues, education, or health care) - then you have to go with Crist over Scott.
Scott is the worst governor ever, maybe not just in Florida. He's a serious criminal who bought his way into the office, lies worst than Jeb (believe it or not), and he has an evil agenda to take all he can from Florida and give it to his friends. He is evil, enjoys being mean, and could probably be diagnosable as some personality disorder if he wasn't simply a white-collar crook. Even Scott's appointees (Lt. Gov., Sec. of Ed., etc.) are all crazy and criminal! Look at the track record.
Crist is admittedly a politician who knows what he has to say to get elected (the Democrats actually need more of those). He can raise the money and make the speeches to win over the independents and undecided. Crist will make big difference to Florida in terms of appointing judges, support for education (schools and colleges), public utilities, and the environment. He is not nearly as extreme as Scott, and Crist will go with the Democratic agenda if elected.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Worlds better actually. Still pretty bad. I will be voting for Crist only because of who he is running against. Scott is the worst of the worst and we really need him gone. I just can't contort myself to say many positive things about Crist. He is a snake oil salesman. I can talk ill of Scott all day long.
demwing
(16,916 posts)so I'll be voting for Crist because he's right on all the important issues concerning Florida.
QC
(26,371 posts)Even Jeb was better than what we have now.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)joined her on stage to chant 'Drill here, drill now'. That's Sarah Palin. Endorsed her. Strongly. To be second in line for the Presidency of the United States.
I'm sure he's 'better' than the other guy. If I had to live there for some penance or other I'd probably vote for him too. But I feel badly for Florida.
JCMach1
(27,553 posts)Do people need to be reminded that both Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren and a host of other Democrats are former Republicans...?
Seriously...
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Yes, Scott thumbs his nose at the law and the people.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)The opinions of those who do not live here in Florida don't count.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)They are an extremely flawed organization. Just about everyone who votes for Crist will be a "Crist hater". The verbiage used in your op has become exactly what is expected from the Florida Democratic Party. Oh yeah you haters, what you gunna do, vote for Scott?
The only reason to vote for Crist is because he is not Scott. You seem pretty happy supporting a guy that was a huge part of the initial part to privatize education in this state. Who knows where Crist stands today on the subject, but his history is clear.
Haters. lol. That is about the level we are now at.
Sancho
(9,067 posts)but to win back this state, keep the Florida Supreme court appointees out of the hands of the crazies, make sure the 2016 Presidential election is not another Katherine Harris disaster, etc., etc. we MUST get Scott out!!!
Crist may be a middle-of-the-road politician, but he will be the way to turn Florida Blue.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Except for this. "Crist may be a middle-of-the-road politician, but he will be the way to turn Florida Blue."
He did not turn Florida blue his first time there, he will not turn it blue this time. I also don't see him as middle of the road. His past work with education, his recent past stances on social issues, etc. are not middle of the road positions. He has claimed to have become more middle of the road after the last couple of years. Still not hard to look "middle-of-the-road" when your opposition is Scott.
Still want to make it clear that I agree with everything else you said. You list some of the reasons I will be voting for him. Well, that and who he is running against.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Neither one of these videos are very old.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)I'm ashamed to be a Florida Democrat that the best we can do is a republican retread who's claim to fame is that he's less crazy than Scott.
Bryant
Sancho
(9,067 posts)The Republican-turned-Democrat has become such a fervent supporter of the policy that he said he would consider using an executive order to get it done.
"A million Floridians are not getting the health care they need because of Rick Scott's lack of effort," Crist told the Tampa Bay Times/Miami Herald. "Florida deserves to have a governor who understands that this is affecting people's lives."
This one issue alone is enough to vote for Crist...
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)and the plight of those low-income Floridians who don't is not especially important to them.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)Interesting. Who would have thought such a thing would actually happen.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)why not help get the Republican elected?
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)He has DemocratSinceBirth's enthusiastic support.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)still_one
(92,062 posts)mcar
(42,278 posts)Scott must go.
This one, too