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Why is the refusal of the GOP to confirm the Surgeon General (Original Post) edhopper Oct 2014 OP
The Obama administration and the rest of us have not made this central to malaise Oct 2014 #1
For some reason, the Obama administration is just not making the effort to point this out. Chemisse Oct 2014 #2
It would backfire on him. former9thward Oct 2014 #6
Same reason why the corporate media is not reporting about the ebola patient B Calm Oct 2014 #3
The GOP has nothing to do with it. former9thward Oct 2014 #4
You are not aware that he did not have the votes? Do you know why he did not? If you were to know Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #5
The OP is about the GOP. former9thward Oct 2014 #7
Yes, he does. Do you know why he has the problem on this single nomination? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #8
No, but I don't care. former9thward Oct 2014 #9
You do not care to know....then I am done here, sir. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #10
GOP threatened filibuster because of NRA JaneyVee Oct 2014 #11
Not true. former9thward Oct 2014 #13
Only on judicial nominees has the rules changed madokie Oct 2014 #14
Really??? former9thward Oct 2014 #15
Good info. Only thought it was judicial. JaneyVee Oct 2014 #24
What's with the, "You really need to get out more ". This poster is bringing up rhett o rick Oct 2014 #18
Perhaps you need to get 840high Oct 2014 #20
True but if that were the problem what would Democrats have to lose to bring up the vote? rhett o rick Oct 2014 #16
The NRA opposes the appointee toddwv Oct 2014 #25
Then expose them. former9thward Oct 2014 #27
You are not understanding the many posts that are trying to explain it to you kindly. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #28
You just don't want the Democratic Senators exposed. former9thward Oct 2014 #30
Put them on the record nt bklyncowgirl Oct 2014 #29
Senate Democrats refuse to confirm him. tritsofme Oct 2014 #12
Who are the Democrats and do we know their reasons? nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #17
IIRC the NRA opposes the nominee tritsofme Oct 2014 #19
Red state Dems up for reelection Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #21
My guess is they come from red states YoungDemCA Oct 2014 #22
Don't have a list handy, but they're the ones wetting their pants over the NRA. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2014 #23
Because the M$M works for the same paymasters as the GOP. nt Rex Oct 2014 #26

malaise

(268,933 posts)
1. The Obama administration and the rest of us have not made this central to
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 09:20 AM
Oct 2014

the national debate. It should be raised every day of the week.

Chemisse

(30,809 posts)
2. For some reason, the Obama administration is just not making the effort to point this out.
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 09:27 AM
Oct 2014

Does he feel PR is beneath him? I can't argue with that, but he should at least have a crew of spokespeople out there making these points for him.

Half of the troubles with his presidency is due to a failure to dominate the political dialogue.

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
6. It would backfire on him.
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 10:04 AM
Oct 2014

That is why Obama does not raise it. Reid refuses to allow a vote. He would have to attack Reid if he raised it.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
3. Same reason why the corporate media is not reporting about the ebola patient
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 09:35 AM
Oct 2014

who died and why did not have health care coverage in Texas.

They don't wan't to make the GOP look bad before the mid terms.

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
4. The GOP has nothing to do with it.
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 10:01 AM
Oct 2014

Maybe that is why it is not a Media Outrage. Reid refuses to bring it to a vote. It is all on Reid. He could bring it to a vote today if he wished.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
5. You are not aware that he did not have the votes? Do you know why he did not? If you were to know
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 10:04 AM
Oct 2014

you would not say that. Please research it.

The GOP had nothing to do with it.....are you on the right site?

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
7. The OP is about the GOP.
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 10:05 AM
Oct 2014

They are not stopping a vote. If he does not have the votes he has a problem with his caucus.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. Yes, he does. Do you know why he has the problem on this single nomination?
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 10:06 AM
Oct 2014

Other than not a single R will vote for any Surgeon General?

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
9. No, but I don't care.
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 10:07 AM
Oct 2014

Let him have a vote and put people on the record -- both GOP and Democrats. He has 55 Dems.

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
13. Not true.
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 10:43 AM
Oct 2014

The filibuster rules have been changed. There are no more filibusters allowed on Presidential appointments. Straight up or down votes now. That was an old excuse used over and over. No longer can he use that excuse.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
14. Only on judicial nominees has the rules changed
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 10:49 AM
Oct 2014

Not on all Presidential appointments. You really need to get out more

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
15. Really???
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 10:53 AM
Oct 2014

I think you should try to keep up with current events if you are going to post snarky posts. It can come back to bite you.

Democrats used a rare parliamentary move to change the rules so that federal judicial nominees and executive-office appointments can advance to confirmation votes by a simple majority of senators, rather than the 60-vote supermajority that has been the standard for nearly four decades.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-poised-to-limit-filibusters-in-party-line-vote-that-would-alter-centuries-of-precedent/2013/11/21/d065cfe8-52b6-11e3-9fe0-fd2ca728e67c_story.html

I doubt I will see a reply....

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
24. Good info. Only thought it was judicial.
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 11:58 AM
Oct 2014

Either way, PBO doesn't seem like he's even mentioned surgeon general.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
18. What's with the, "You really need to get out more ". This poster is bringing up
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 11:09 AM
Oct 2014

some legitimate questions.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
16. True but if that were the problem what would Democrats have to lose to bring up the vote?
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 11:02 AM
Oct 2014

What a great campaign tool for Democrats. "All Republicans are against the appointment of a Surgeon General at this critical time."
Maybe the problem is that Sen Reid doesn't have all the Senate Democrats behind him. That would certainly explain it.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
25. The NRA opposes the appointee
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 07:17 PM
Oct 2014

So there are some Blue Dog Dems joining the GOP. You can bet that Reid tallied the votes he had.

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
27. Then expose them.
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 07:30 PM
Oct 2014

Up or down vote and let everyone be on the record. If it is a down vote then Obama can appoint someone else. What is the alternative? Let the nomination hang there forever?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
28. You are not understanding the many posts that are trying to explain it to you kindly.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 09:42 AM
Oct 2014

It is already exposed. The major media do not give a shit about Republican blockades.

You think the major media will cover a vote on an appointment being blocked, yet another one?......if you made it about Ebola only and not about appointments being blocked, ignore the NRA and the red state problems, then you may have a point. A complex political chess game, Reid knows what he is doing.

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
30. You just don't want the Democratic Senators exposed.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 10:32 AM
Oct 2014

That is the reason Reid won't do the vote. Got it...

tritsofme

(17,376 posts)
12. Senate Democrats refuse to confirm him.
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 10:37 AM
Oct 2014

Since Reid went nuclear last fall it only takes 50+1 votes to confirm a nominee.

There are 55 Senate Demorats, but more than 5 have indicated they will not support the nominee, so Reid has not scheduled a vote he knows will fail.

tritsofme

(17,376 posts)
19. IIRC the NRA opposes the nominee
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 11:21 AM
Oct 2014

And Reid had no real desire to force the issue before November.

The vote was also scheduled only a week or so after another Obama nominee failed, and I think he was also looking to avoid repeat losses.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
21. Red state Dems up for reelection
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 11:29 AM
Oct 2014

Don't want to touch anything even remotely close or related to gun control, and voting for an outspoken proponent of it for Surgeon General would be on that list.

I'm really surprised that the President didn't take that into account when choosing a nominee.

Here in NC a vote for him would be all over the airwaves against Kay Hagan before the end of the day.

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
22. My guess is they come from red states
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 11:35 AM
Oct 2014

And fear the consequences of defying the NRA.

Just a guess....

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