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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy is the refusal of the GOP to confirm the Surgeon General
not a Media Outrage. With all the reporting on Ebola, do they not know this is important?
Can they only be outraged about inconsequential garbage?
malaise
(268,933 posts)the national debate. It should be raised every day of the week.
Chemisse
(30,809 posts)Does he feel PR is beneath him? I can't argue with that, but he should at least have a crew of spokespeople out there making these points for him.
Half of the troubles with his presidency is due to a failure to dominate the political dialogue.
former9thward
(31,981 posts)That is why Obama does not raise it. Reid refuses to allow a vote. He would have to attack Reid if he raised it.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)who died and why did not have health care coverage in Texas.
They don't wan't to make the GOP look bad before the mid terms.
former9thward
(31,981 posts)Maybe that is why it is not a Media Outrage. Reid refuses to bring it to a vote. It is all on Reid. He could bring it to a vote today if he wished.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)you would not say that. Please research it.
The GOP had nothing to do with it.....are you on the right site?
former9thward
(31,981 posts)They are not stopping a vote. If he does not have the votes he has a problem with his caucus.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Other than not a single R will vote for any Surgeon General?
former9thward
(31,981 posts)Let him have a vote and put people on the record -- both GOP and Democrats. He has 55 Dems.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)former9thward
(31,981 posts)The filibuster rules have been changed. There are no more filibusters allowed on Presidential appointments. Straight up or down votes now. That was an old excuse used over and over. No longer can he use that excuse.
madokie
(51,076 posts)Not on all Presidential appointments. You really need to get out more
former9thward
(31,981 posts)I think you should try to keep up with current events if you are going to post snarky posts. It can come back to bite you.
Democrats used a rare parliamentary move to change the rules so that federal judicial nominees and executive-office appointments can advance to confirmation votes by a simple majority of senators, rather than the 60-vote supermajority that has been the standard for nearly four decades.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-poised-to-limit-filibusters-in-party-line-vote-that-would-alter-centuries-of-precedent/2013/11/21/d065cfe8-52b6-11e3-9fe0-fd2ca728e67c_story.html
I doubt I will see a reply....
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Either way, PBO doesn't seem like he's even mentioned surgeon general.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)some legitimate questions.
840high
(17,196 posts)out more.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)What a great campaign tool for Democrats. "All Republicans are against the appointment of a Surgeon General at this critical time."
Maybe the problem is that Sen Reid doesn't have all the Senate Democrats behind him. That would certainly explain it.
toddwv
(2,830 posts)So there are some Blue Dog Dems joining the GOP. You can bet that Reid tallied the votes he had.
former9thward
(31,981 posts)Up or down vote and let everyone be on the record. If it is a down vote then Obama can appoint someone else. What is the alternative? Let the nomination hang there forever?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)It is already exposed. The major media do not give a shit about Republican blockades.
You think the major media will cover a vote on an appointment being blocked, yet another one?......if you made it about Ebola only and not about appointments being blocked, ignore the NRA and the red state problems, then you may have a point. A complex political chess game, Reid knows what he is doing.
former9thward
(31,981 posts)That is the reason Reid won't do the vote. Got it...
bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)tritsofme
(17,376 posts)Since Reid went nuclear last fall it only takes 50+1 votes to confirm a nominee.
There are 55 Senate Demorats, but more than 5 have indicated they will not support the nominee, so Reid has not scheduled a vote he knows will fail.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)tritsofme
(17,376 posts)And Reid had no real desire to force the issue before November.
The vote was also scheduled only a week or so after another Obama nominee failed, and I think he was also looking to avoid repeat losses.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Don't want to touch anything even remotely close or related to gun control, and voting for an outspoken proponent of it for Surgeon General would be on that list.
I'm really surprised that the President didn't take that into account when choosing a nominee.
Here in NC a vote for him would be all over the airwaves against Kay Hagan before the end of the day.
YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)And fear the consequences of defying the NRA.
Just a guess....
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)nt