Want Mark Begich to Win the Alaska Senate Seat? In Alaska, there is 200% voter turnout!

[J_J_]

Seems impossible?

Well it is, but that is what the election data said for the 2004 election in 16 out of 40 districts.

Discrepancies in the 2004 election included a district-by-district count that added up 292,267 votes cast for George Bush in the presidential election, while the statewide summary showed 190,889 votes.

District-by-district totals gave U.S. Sen. Lisa Murkowski 226,992 votes, while her official total was 149,446 votes.

And in half the state House Districts, more ballots were cast than there are registered voters, with 200 percent voter turnout in 16 of those districts, the Democrats say.

Brown said the Democratic party's analysis of the central tabulator file has not yet revealed the cause of those discrepancies.

"We are continuing to try to get to the bottom of that," Brown said.

http://juneauempire.com/stories/100606/sta_20061006008.shtml


They never did get to the bottom of this.

This state is all set up for fraud.

The Koch brothers do not need to spend more money, they just need Karl Rove and his *new IT expert.
(*Karl Rove's last IT guy died in a small plane crash right before he was to be put on trial under oath in Ohio for election fraud)

[ReRe]

1. Did they ever get that mess figured out...

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... since that report was published 8 years ago? I sometimes wonder if we're not ALL a bunch of lemmings marching to the polls every two years. But that doesn't keep me from doing it,
or from encouraging others to get to the polls every election day.

[J_J_]

2. no, nothing was ever explained

Of course we have to vote, but we need to demand our vote counts are doubled checked by hand counts.

Hand counts, counted and posted at the precinct level before the tabulators.

It really isn't too much to ask.

The US points the finger at other countries, claiming fraud....it is unbelievable.

Venezuela has the same diebold machines but they come with paper receipts.

Diebold can't do that in the US apparently.

I seriously think we are becoming a bunch of lemmings.

And every time Democrats lose when we should have won, it breaks us, we lose hope and the media piles right on 'looks like everyone loves teabaggers' and 'looks like everyone in the US is a huge fucking moron'

It is a huge social experiment and we are losing.

[ReRe]

8. I want paper ballots...

... and buildings with a vote-counting pit and a balcony all around for observers, as well as observers in the pit with the counters. Would be cheaper, have a paper trail, and everyone would look at elections a little differently, don't ya' think?

[riqster]

15. Like they do in the UK.

[mopinko]

3. i hope they can get poll watchers in every district.

candidates, in my experience, only send watchers when they want to challenge voters. if you volunteer to work election day, they would rather have you on gotv.
those people can still check the tabulations at the end of the day, and mostly they do. but i have never known them to check those numbers against the official count.
these days with things being tabulated and transmitted so quickly, even that is becoming a thing of the past.

go alaska. dont let them get away with it. especially in those known hinky districts.

[J_J_]

4. Alaska reporters refused to do exit polls 'no time, no money'

But then they were all on twitter all night long tweeting stupid shit about how Sullivan wouldn't let him in to his speech and other bullshit.

I watched their tweets all night, doing absolutely nothing, yet they said there was no time or money to do their damn jobs.

Alaska districts are tiny, few hundred ballots per precinct....I really think we could hand count....like 3 times and still be done in an hour.

This electronic counting is just bullshit, we don't need it. No one needs it.

[mopinko]

5. from you lips to

the ears of those with a brain connected to them.

[J_J_]

10. can you help me locate them?

seriously losing hope

[mopinko]

16. man do i wish, but here

the obama campaign is sharing info on the drop out voters, the dems who dont show up in the midterms. if your congressional candidate is not using this data, find out why.

this is really a HUGE HUGE thing. people guard their lists like they are gonna get them into heaven.

[Blue_In_AK]

12. I will be a poll watcher this election, again.

I think this is the third time. If we can't know what goes on inside of the machines, at least we can make sure there's no funny business at the polls.

[mopinko]

14. good on you.

i am trying to figure out how i can get away to help kelly westlund up in wis. if i can i will be watching the vote like a hawk.

[J_J_]

19. maybe you could sneak a hand count in there, just to double check

at least talk to other election workers as to why no one is allowed to look at the ballots at all, only accuvote machines.

They became very irate when I asked this question at my voting station and wanted my name and phone number. weird.

Also, after the last 'election' they sent out tea bags to election workers as a thank you.

Did you get one of those?

[Blue_In_AK]

21. No, no teabags.

I am going to keep a tally, though, of how many people vote, at least during my shift at the precinct I'm assigned, and during our training this time we were all encouraged to do so. I understand there will be a team of lawyers on board to check into any weirdness.

More money has been spent here during this election than any other in history.

[J_J_]

22. I wish we could get the media to do exit polls, can we organize citizen exit polls? Is that legal?

There needs to be a way to double check the election.

I don't trust the last election either, 2 Billion per year is a lot of money, no way they left election up to the people.

[Blue_In_AK]

23. I'm almost positive that one was manipulated.

[J_J_]

24. they are going to loot the entire state if we don't stop them

The are going to loot our permanent fund to pay for the $65 Billion gas line, then not even pay tax on the oil revenue because they write off all these phony expenses on the gas line.

We are so screwed if we don't stop this.

I really REALLY LOVE this state, and so want to protect it for future generations....

.....but the Koch brothers see $$ everywhere, and such a cheap state to control! Our politicians and media are super cheap sellouts! And so freaking dumb too, they just sent the bottom of the barrel here and they are still getting away with it.

!!!GOD HELP US!!!

[Mr.Bill]

6. At last an explanation

of how an idiot like Sarah Plain could have been elected governor.

[valerief]

7. This is how voting is done in the U.S. nt

[J_J_]

9. I know, but why?

The only reason someone would set this up with secret source code is for fraud, can't imagine why anyone would defend it unless they are participating in the fraud.

Why can't we count paper ballots with human hands?

I know we can still count, that is like 2nd grade math.

I know our education is falling behind, but we can still count!

[valerief]

13. Paper ballots are still tossed today. I don't know what the fix is.

The PTB will get who they want anyway. I think all we can do is make enough threatening noises so the PTB will choose the candidate who says things closest to the things we say we want.

[Blue_In_AK]

11. These elections have been effed up here since at least 2002.

I cried when Frank the Bank beat Fran. I still don't see how that could happen.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

17. Louis Black should go to Alaska.

[J_J_]

18. kick

.....

[J_J_]

20. how do they count the votes in your state?

Might want to find out.

All of the 'get out the vote' efforts are meaningless if they steal it!

[questionseverything]

25. have u seen this jj?

http://beta.slashdot.org/story/170755

bbv published this info years ago...it is still in use.....in short, voters from some wealthy,white suburbs are counted 3x

this is how they get 200% turn out

every part of our elections have been taken out of voters hands, insiders can manipulate how many vote, to how the vote count is reported

the only thing that could possible stop it is , counting ourselves, knowing our own precinct and getting the dems to gather when the results are spit out of the machine....imagine if you have 150 voters participating at a precinct, 100 voters swearing they voted dem, and the machine reporting 100 rep votes and 35 dem votes

yes we would have to give up our secret vote for the reporting night but i think we are at the point that it is necessary.....alaska is actually a good place to try it because of the smaller precincts and close nit towns

and it is not just the counting of votes, it is also the reporting of votes because what is spit out of machine is not necessarily what the state reports

we documented it in 2010 @ bradblog in Arkansas but it happens in lots of places

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7875

[liberal N proud]

26. Brings all new meaning to the term vote often