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damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 03:52 PM Oct 2014

Police Militarization Must Be Halted

Last month, Republicans and Democrats in the Senate and the House of Representatives finally took a stand against the growing militarization of our police forces and our main streets. Shortly after Congressmen Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) and Raul Labrador (R-Idaho) introduced the Stop Militarizing Law Enforcement Act last month in the House of Representatives, a bill that has over 30 bipartisan co-sponsors, Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) introduced a bill by the same name in the Senate. Congress is waking up to the rapidly changing face of American law enforcement, and it is ready to do something about it.

The Senate and House bills target the Pentagon’s transfer to police forces of free military-grade equipment coming back from U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere. This program has gifted over $5 billion-worth of recently used and unused war equipment – armored personnel carriers, tanks, Humvees, and Mine-Resistant Ambush-Protected (MRAP) vehicles, grenade launchers, armed drones, and assault weapons – to U.S. police since the late 1990s when the program first started. The bicameral legislation would prohibit the transfer of these military weapons. Given that the Pentagon has 13,000 MRAPs to give away, this comes at a critical time."

*Stopping violent extremist groups or individuals, whether in America or overseas, doesn’t require a militarized approach. As Rand Corporation showed in studying nearly 300 terrorist groups between 1968 and 2006, over 83 percent of them were ended or dismantled by negotiations, integration into the political process, intelligence or policing. Only 7 percent were ended by military force.

The lesson for America law enforcement, then, is to ensure that police represent the community’s demographics (a political issue), live in and integrate with the community (a trust-building and intelligence gathering issue). Anything that increases the distance and distrust makes deterrent and de-escalation much more difficult. Former police chiefs – such as Seattle Police Chief Norm Stamper, who once used military tactics on protestors in Seattle’s infamous 1999 protests against the World Trade Organization – are saying the same thing. We should take note.

The time is now to change the way we police America before hundreds of thousands of more pieces of military gear go to main streets across America. The face of America is changing quickly. Let’s make sure it’s not for the worse."

http://www.michaelshank.tv/police-militarization-must-be-halted/

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Police Militarization Must Be Halted (Original Post) damnedifIknow Oct 2014 OP
Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #1
Like this? cyberswede Oct 2014 #2
Thank you! iscooterliberally Oct 2014 #4
This loser keeps coming back with that tough talk, but it's just talk and everyone knows it :) arcane1 Oct 2014 #5
If this was about cops and robbers it would be one thing. The people in the streets of Ferguson MO jwirr Oct 2014 #3
Nno, it needs to be completely reversed. obxhead Oct 2014 #6
I'll give this a rec. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #7
K&R. Which means taking on corporate politicians, including this administration. woo me with science Oct 2014 #8
The threats America faces can't be met with MRAP. Octafish Oct 2014 #9
Do they actually believe they are at war? damnedifIknow Oct 2014 #10
the mistrust of police justifies all kinds of dismantling...not just the military variety Supersedeas Oct 2014 #13
Agree JonLP24 Oct 2014 #11
kick woo me with science Oct 2014 #12

Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
4. Thank you!
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 04:20 PM
Oct 2014

I would like to add these folks to the list as well:

http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/drug-war-victim/

Irrational fear my ass! Our police departments have been systematically turned into a poorly trained occupying military force.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
3. If this was about cops and robbers it would be one thing. The people in the streets of Ferguson MO
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 04:18 PM
Oct 2014

were citizens. Our military cannot by law be used against the citizens of the US so now we are making our cops into the military. I don't know if you understand what I am saying but I see this as a misuse of power. We have changed the police force into a military force to us against the people. That is not only dangerous for our democracy but damned dangerous for the people. I can go a long way toward explaining why we are having so many cop killings over laws that are so small and foolish that they should actually be repealed.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
6. Nno, it needs to be completely reversed.
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 06:23 PM
Oct 2014

Force the cops to carry nothing more lethal than a .22 cal 6 round handgun. That's still really lethal, but you have to make every shot count.

I'm tired of reading stories with hundreds of rounds fired with a resulting death from 2 gun shots.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
8. K&R. Which means taking on corporate politicians, including this administration.
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 07:18 PM
Oct 2014

Militarization of our police departments is a *bipartisan* effort of corporatists in both parties, right along with mass surveillance, the assaults on journalism, and the persecution of whistleblowers. The programs and legislation that are turning our police departments into paramilitary forces come through Homeland Security and the Pentagon, and are being used to suppress and intimidate dissent, exploit communities, and fill lucrative private prisons with slave labor as the nation is corporatized and Americans are made into a nation of low-paid wage slaves.

Both parties are complicit in this outrage. See the links below. Real change requires pushback against corporate politicians who are enabling this militarization, and that includes both corporate Democrats and Republicans.

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The entire Democratic leadership opposed Grayson amendment to stop arming cops with DOD weapons
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025390424

WOW... Went Looking For Connections Between Ferguson And ALEC... Found This Piece Of The Puzzle...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025413841

The exploitation of Ferguson I: In 2013 the town issued over 24,000 arrest warrants..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025404667

The exploitation of Ferguson II: The Seamy Underbelly Of Ferguson Starts To Appear
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025416747

The exploitation of Ferguson III: Ferguson Feeds Off the Poor: Three Warrants a Year Per Household
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025428157

Police Militarization (including the Obama administration's role)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/06/aclu-police-militarization-swat_n_2813334.html

It's almost certain that if the police agencies cooperate, the ACLU will find that the militarization trend has accelerated since Kraska's studies more than a decade ago. All of the policies, incentives and funding mechanisms that were driving the trend then are still in effect now. And most of them have grown in size and scope.

The George W. Bush administration actually began scaling down the Byrne and COPS programs in the early 2000s, part of a general strategy of leaving law enforcement to states and localities. But the Obama administration has since resurrected both programs. The Byrne program got a $2 billion surge in funding as part of the 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, by far the largest budget in the program's 25-year history. Obama also gave the COPS program $1.55 billion that same year, a 250 percent increase over its 2008 budget, and again the largest budget in the program's history. Vice President Joe Biden had championed both programs during his time in the Senate.

The Pentagon's 1033 program has also exploded under Obama. In the program's monthly newsletter (Motto: "From Warfighter to Crimefighter&quot , its director announced in October 2011 that his office had given away a record $500 million in military gear in fiscal year 2011, which he noted, "passes the previous mark by several hundred million dollars." He added, "I believe we can exceed that in FY 12.”

Then there are the Department of Homeland Security's anti-terrorism grants. The Center for Investigative Reporting found in a 2011 investigation that since 2001, DHS has given out more than $34 billion in grants to police departments across the country, many of which have been used to purchase military-grade guns, tanks, armor, and armored personnel carriers. The grants have gone to such unlikely terrorism targets as Fargo, N.D.; Canyon County, Idaho; and Tuscaloosa, Ala.




"Operation Urban Shield"...Training our Police, Fire, First Responders..in Military Tactics
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025412909

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
9. The threats America faces can't be met with MRAP.
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 08:15 PM
Oct 2014

Yet, there they are.

And no one is yet to explain how the authorities in Ferguson got one.

http://www.criminaljusticedegreehub.com/martial-law/

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
10. Do they actually believe they are at war?
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 08:25 PM
Oct 2014

I caught a glimpse of what the poster who had his post removed said and they said "make no mistake it's a war out there." A war with who exactly?

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
11. Agree
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 08:49 PM
Oct 2014

Those high intensity raids always looked like it would do more harm than good. They create a frantic, confusing, and scary situation which invites tragic & accidents. How many times was it the wrong house (or at the wrong time) or someone unarmed killed?

Unless dealing with murderers, most of these narcotics raids seem unnecessary when most are smart enough to not shoot cops. I've seen examples of major crime investigations sitting on charge someone for murder (like the Mafia) to avoid jeopardizing the investigation of main targets and the operation.

At-least announce and give suspects (though that could give them a chance to destroy evidence) a chance to answer the door and surrender. If they refuse, try to run (which should make it easier for them), or go back inside to hole up and deal with it when it comes.

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