Bernie Sanders on Ed show said what Dem's won't

[Robbins]

Republicans won't tax rich to pay for endless war In middle east.It will be cuts to Social Security,Medicare,medicaid,Education,and nitration programs Including food stamps.

We need him to run for president.We need someone to stand up for social safety net against the Gop/Tea Party wanting to gut it.

You really think ms corporate and endless war Hillary Clinton will stand up for social safety net

1:We would already be In Syria If she had her way
2;She was once on board of Wal mart
3:SIngle Mothers were hurt by Bill Clinton's signing the republican welfare reform
4:After leaving state department she attack those who called "Bi-partisan" a bad name."bi-partisan" never helps public

If Republicans take senate In november cuts are coming in less Obama vetoes them.

Bernie Sanders is first politician saying what I have been saying.

[cascadiance]

1. And she loves expanding H-1B "indentured servant labor" programs too...

Which screws people like me that have seen their salaries shrink over the last couple of decades due to this program and other forms of outsourcing from the "free trade" deals we have like TPP that she also supports along with NAFTA that her husband helped put in place. Just out of work when my last contract job (which appears to dominate the tech industry any more) ended a short time ago again... Sorry Hillary, you DON'T appeal to me personally with that kind of position supporting your corporate buddies that want to profiteer off of us and push us down along with the rest of the middle class you don't seem to care about too much.

[Robbins]

2. She wouldn't be fighting for me

I am disabled american whose income comes from SSI.My health insurance Is medicaid.I get food stamps.Here In Missouri I get
housing and Energy assistance.These programs are directly threatened by GOP.Centrist Democrats often go along with these.

Nafta,Welfare reform,and Deregulation were worst decisions Bill Clinton made.

I consider free trade to be greatest threat to middle class/Working people.

Bernie Sanders has history of supporting the social safety net which would have been threatened If Romney would have won In 2012.
Any republican In 2016 will be enemy of social safety net.

When republicans cry about food stamps it's really a signal against blacks but it can hurt a lot of people.People who work at wal-mart
where hillary was once on it's board have to go on food stamps to survive.

Elisabeth Warren has history of supporting consumers.She may have once been a Republican but she is on right side.

Bernie Sanders and Elisabeth Warren would be my top choices to run In 2016.I hope he runs In Democratic party.And i would hope she changes her mind.

If you read Game Change you will know that politicians now saying they support Hillary before campaign begins doesn't mean much.

[cascadiance]

3. It sounds like even McCain might support Hillary over Rand Paul...

and many here would say WTF? But him wanting a neocon leaning president might explain that position as noted here....

http://rare.us/story/if-its-rand-paul-vs-hillary-clinton-in-2016-heres-the-republicans-that-might-root-for-hillary/

Do we really want a candidate that someone like John McCain would favor over a Republican like Rand Paul?

[1StrongBlackMan]

6. Actually, yes ...

Rand paul is THAT bad!

[Hoppy]

17. I don't know about that. He's for eliminating the war on drugs.

I've been known to enjoy a bowl or two of hash. Why, the enjoyment of opiates goes back two millennium.... even to Julius Caesar. His last words were,

"A toot Brute?"

[1StrongBlackMan]

20. Yes; but, ...

he's, also, for the elimination of my Civil Rights ... pardon me if I don't share your enthuiasm for your right to get high over my right to live as a "1st class citizen."

[whathehell]

27. He's also for eliminating Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid & Unemployment Insurance.

Everything not literally spelled out in the Constitution.

[Enthusiast]

29. He's like an unfunny biblical literalist clown on the constitution.

As if progress must be frozen in an 18th Century mode.

[whathehell]

31. "an unfunny literalist clown on the constitution" -- one of the better descriptions I've heard of

both father and son. Very good, Sir.

[DonCoquixote]

35. and let's not forget abortion

which we wants to ban.

[Robbins]

7. That sound send bells to liberals and Progresives

That racist war monger Mccain would support Hillary over Rand Paul.

This signals Hillary would be warmongering Neocon Mccain wanted.

And yeah I Think It's safe to call Mccain racist.He's defently anti-Gay and I see plenty to say his consent attacks on Obama Is due to him
not being able to take it he lost to a black man.

If Hillary Is the nominee and Rand Paul were to win nomination he could be seen as the liberal anti-war candiate.I don't trust or like
Paul anymore than any other Republican to run.

[jeepers]

14. I don't think Hillary will get the nomination

She is too polarizing. The loyalty oaths making their way around the net that demand democrats stay loyal and vote for the Democratic nominee are not a good sign and reek of both desperation and intimidation. I hope Warren gets the nomination. But Warren is not running.


Pitting himself against Hillary for the democratic nomination would be a mistake for Bernie as the powers that control both parties would never let the Senator in. Hillary can't win if Bernie runs a third party challenge because in theory he would split the democratic vote.

Bernie said he won't split the democratic party, but this is politics.

The largest group of registered voters is Independent , both democrats and republicans who are disillusioned with their respective parties. I think 70 t0 80 percent of the electorate agree with Bernies' message and a lot of them are republican. He can win these votes as an Independent probably not as a democrat and he can win the presidency.

As inevitable as Hillary is, the decision here is on Bernies shoulders. Can Senator Sanders build and husband to his purpose a left right coalition ?

[a kennedy]

4. Oh, and that NAFTA agreement????? That worked real well didn't??

Not her fiasco but d*mn.....I still ticked off about that.

[pampango]

30. "Free trade" doesn't cause the problems. If it did, Europe would be a wasteland of inequality.

It is not.

Cutting taxes on the rich; gutting corporate regulation; emasculating labor unions and shredding the safety net (which are not policies that progressive countries follow) are the causes of the decline in the middle class and the increasing levels of inequality in the US.

You can have plenty of trade (even 'free trade') - which progressive countries do have more of - and have stronger middle classes and more equitable societies. The key is to adopt progressive policies on taxes, support for labor, regulations and the safety net.

[LawDeeDah]

32. Thanks for that. I've always been a bit muddled on NAFTA

and free trade. I know free trade is not a horrible thing in itself, but it has caused so much hardship for Americans. We can't avoid trade in a global business world, that would be naive at the very least.

I'm going to have to read more on how Germany and others are doing it right and the US got it all wrong. If you have any suggestions for futher reading I'd like that.

[JonLP24]

37. When it comes to the US it is very simple

A business that is only interested in maximizing profits and faced w/ the options (mostly dealing w/ the manufacturing side) of low wages, longer hours, and no benefits compared to the labor laws we have here they are going to choose the first option.

Another problem is H1-B Visas. First, it requires the employee stay w/ the company meaning he can't leave Microsoft to Apple -- businesses competing for the services driving down their wage and in affect driving down the wage of American workers since who is the company going to choose? H1-B Visa who can't leave the company on a lower than true free market value and other restrictions or the American who is free to leave if another company offers a better salary -- both options aren't bad since the American worker will have to settle for lower wages to find employment but they still prefer the Visa worker. Which is why they lobby Congress for more Visas.

A global economy works if labor is global too. How hard is it compared to a business to leave & enter another country to work for a business offering better compensation & benefits? Outside the US a number of Mexicans illegally immigrate to the US because the wages are way too low and the low under-the-table pay work in the US is more significant. Even deported they'll still try to reenter. Again, a globalized economy works if labor is globalized. Meanwhile the US has labor coming in that is anything but "free".

I don't know anything at all about Germany but I would suggest looking at Mercedes first. While primarily luxury vehicles here, from Europe to Africa to Southwest Asia Mercedes is a family car and also produces many semi-trucks, dump trucks, and other service vehicles all over those continents I mentioned. I'd think they're definitely a big part of their success.

[1StrongBlackMan]

5. Well ...

You really think ms corporate and endless war Hillary Clinton will stand up for social safety net

Yes ... I believe she will stand up for the social safety net; but only because she has said she would.

:We would already be In Syria If she had her way
2;She was once on board of Wal mart
3:SIngle Mothers were hurt by Bill Clinton's signing the republican welfare reform
4:After leaving state department she attack those who called "Bi-partisan" a bad name."bi-partisan" never helps public

1. Unrelated to standing up for the social safety net.
2. Board of the Walmart FOUNDATION ... big difference.
3. That was Bill's doing.
4. Another term (descriptive phrase) for "Bi-partisanship" is "working together for a solution" ... IOWs, "Governance."

[cascadiance]

9. I don't think her actions match her words...

1) Spending more money on the war activity and the military industrial complex means less money for social safety net programs.
2) She is on the record for expansion of H-1B program, which works against the American middle class in terms of jobs and wages.
3) She also favors the TPP and has helped Obama (who made false promises about pulling back from free trade agreements during the election) push it...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=67554

I still don't see specifics in how she would fix the system that favors creating more inequality to benefit the wealthy. Just the general terms like "she will stand up for the social safety net", which is meaningless without actions to back that up.

[Robbins]

10. Well

If there are presidential debates In Democratic primary's someone should ask her If she would veto bills which cuts to Social security,Medicare,Medicaid,SSI,Pell Grants,and Food stamps to pay for war.

With republicans controlling house till at least 2022 these wars are threats to Social safety net.

The clintons have long history of being cozy to wall street.That's when Wal-mart Is issue.

The Clinton's are often on same page.She supported free trade deals.

bi-partisanship often comes to Dems going along with what Republicans want.See Bill Clinton on de-regulation and how Dems acted with Bush In white house.Obama spent way too much time In first term trying to deal with republicans.Some people actually tell me Obama
acts like it's his way or the highway.That's ridiculous.

The Clinton's and their triangulation should give some concern.

[sadoldgirl]

13. In that case she might rethink

her support for all the lobbies, which she did in the 2008 election; and

which is not allowed in Bernie's office.

[moondust]

8. Bernie is right, as usual.

ISIS is a regional problem and there are more than enough military forces in the region to handle whatever is necessary on the ground there.

But why wouldn't they just sit back and let the Americans blow their fortunes and military personnel on it when people idiots like Lindsay Graham and John McCain are chomping at the bit to get the U.S. involved in another big war? "You guys go ahead and take care of it, Lindsay," giggled the Saudis, Turks, Iranians, and everybody else who lives there.

[Robbins]

11. Remember

All the time and money we spent training iraqi army? That was waste of money and time.

[moondust]

12. I think Bernie mentioned Turkey

as having the fourth largest military in the world including an air force. I don't know if they are fourth but usually ranked in the top 10 with Egypt and Iran not far behind.

[NYtoBush-Drop Dead]

15. LOve BErnie Sanders

But he would never win the nomination.

[cantbeserious]

16. Go Bernie Go

eom

[bigwillq]

18. Bernie usually says the right things

I would be happy to vote for him as a D, I, Sandwich, what ever he decides to run as.

[reimaginethis]

19. Bernie Rocks

I wish Bernie would run. Sadly, since he has at various points embraced the 'socialist' label, he wouldn't stand a chance. While Gen-Xers and younger folks aren't scared by that scary word anymore, there are still millions of Cold War babies out there who are scared to death of it; I'm guessing they make up enough of the electorate--probably even within the Democratic Party--and are noisy enough that they will drown him out in time.

Still, he's awesome.

[Major Hogwash]

21. Bernie is not running for re-election this year, though.

So, he can afford to say stuff like this that will not cost him his job.

[YOHABLO]

23. No I think Bernie tells it like it is .. regardless

[Major Hogwash]

24. Well, I'm glad you think so because Bernie supports Obama's policy towards ISIL!!

And so does Warren!!!

[grahamhgreen]

34. Saying stuff like this is how he always guests elected... Then he goes through!

[calimary]

22. He better start talking about the cuts that will further screw Ebola research.

Frankly, we should be throwing money at THAT.

[burrowowl]

25. Yup!

Bernie speaks the truth. As usual!

[Purveyor]

26. kick. Thanks for posting. +1 eom

[JustAnotherGen]

28. This is why you need to volunteer in 2014

If Republicans take senate In november cuts are coming in less Obama vetoes them.


2016 will be too late.

[grahamhgreen]

33. "Tax the rich to pay for endless war", anyone got a better idea???

[Maedhros]

38. I've got a better idea.

Don't have endless war.

[grahamhgreen]

40. Oh yeah! Stop feeding the death machine!

[MissDeeds]

36. Bernie nails it again

K&R

[Spitfire of ATJ]

39. It's like I said, the #1 concern I have with Hillary is the return of the DLC....

They will play along with the Republicans calling the Liberals Obama brought in "failures" and push them out the door and slam the party back to the Right.

[KansDem]

41. Kay 'n ray!