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Alison Lundergan Grimes stormed past Mitch McConnell in a debate where the Republican sounded idealess, repetitive, and completely clueless on what is going on in Kentucky.
McConnell started out by trying to link Grimes to the Obama agenda. McConnell claimed that he would be willing to negotiate with Obama, even though, he is on the record stating that his agenda is to obstruct Obama. McConnell tried to label Grimes as against trade agreements. Sen. McConnell dodged the question of whether or not he would work with Obama.
Grimes said that what McConnell is saying now is different what he told his family the Koch brothers. Grimes hit McConnell on a record of obstruction and said that she is not bought and paid for by the Koch brothers. Grimes said that she was an independent thinker. McConnell said that Grimes first vote will be for Harry Reid.
Grimes said that McConnell and his henchmen the Koch brothers are trying to mislead with $50 million in ads. Grimes said unlike McConnell she stands with coal. She hit McConnell on his inconsistent record on coal. She accused McConnell of allowing China to cheat on trade agreements.
Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/2014/10/13/alison-lundergan-grimes-thrashes-obama-obsessed-mcconnell-kentucky-senate-debate.html
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)sakabatou
(42,146 posts)reimaginethis
(25 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Welcome to DU!
reimaginethis
(25 posts)I apologize for the delay in responding; I just now figured out how to find my older posts.
sheshe2
(83,739 posts)Go Alison!
Go Go Go Go!
GOTV2014!!! Vote for your old Kentucky home!
jlayson
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wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)love the smiley look on her face in contrast to the rest of the photo
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Basil is a horrid man.
He says what I feel at times.
kairos12
(12,852 posts)kentuck
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Grimes dropped the minimum wage increase truth on McConnell. The incumbent Republican dodged a question about the minimum wage being a living wage. Grimes said that we must work to increase the minimum wage to a living wage. Grimes got a dig in on McConnell for being in Washington for thirty years. She hit McConnell for not telling the full story on the minimum wage or his record. Grimes said that McConnell got rich off the backs of Kentucky workers. McConnell had to admit that he got rich through an inheritance.
The debate returned to voting, and McConnell had to admit that he voted against Rand Paul in the 2010 Senate primary. McConnell spoke about the tea party in the past tense, which wont sit well with conservative activists who already dislike Sen. McConnell.
The candidates were asked about their philosophies on the role of government. Grimes said that she believed that the government has a role in making peoples lives better. She talked about creating jobs, equal pay, strengthening and protecting Medicare and Social Security. Grimes said Kentucky needs a senator that hasnt gone Washington.
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McConnell didnt ease any concerns or make himself more popular tonight, and Grimes showed that she could go toe to toe with him. Grimes looked ready to be a senator while Mitch McConnell looked ready for retirement.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)The vote is for principal. She has not earned respect, flip-flop, deny your party platform. OK, maybe the Clintons can save the seat. I don't think her denials of the President will come across as anything other than a Judas.
MontyPow
(285 posts)It's too bad, as well. The Kentucky implementation of the exchange is so damned popular, but she refuses to say whether she would have supported it or not.
Oh well. She's doing the best she can for her worldview.
Old Crow
(2,212 posts)Great debate performance on Alison's part. Watching the video, it boils down to (a) youthful energy; or (b) more of the tired old same-old.
Go, Alison!
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)a better candidate than the Turtle no doubt, but it doesn't sit well with me how she has thrown Pres. Obama under the bus. She is a Democrat, yet for some reason could not answer the question regarding whether or not she voted for him. Like another DUer suggested, she could have said something like "yes, I did vote for the president who is trying to give you health care" or "I did vote for the president who has had over 40 consecutive months of (private sector) job growth under his watch". There's also the matter of one of her ads where she says "I am not Obama". It's as if she is ashamed of him and/or the party. I understand that KY is a red state and Obama is fairly unpopular there, but come on now!
JI7
(89,247 posts)it's clearly about race.
kentuck
(111,078 posts)Why didn't he wait until after the election for this decision, like he did with the employer mandate for the ACA?? It made Alison's job a whole lot tougher and, more or less, helped Mitch McConnell.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/epas-proposed-rules-on-carbon-emissions-create-complications-for-coal-state-democrats/2014/06/02/25e0cf48-ea71-11e3-9f5c-9075d5508f0a_story.html
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A new Obama administration proposal to cut carbon dioxide emissions from existing power plants prompted an immediate backlash from Democrats in conservative-leaning states Monday, underscoring how the presidents energy policy will become a major front in the battle for control over Congress this fall.
The Environmental Protection Agencys proposed rule, which is subject to public comment and will be finalized a year from now, would cut carbon dioxide emissions from existing coal plants by up to 30 percent by 2030 from 2005 levels. By targeting the nations single biggest source of carbon output, the proposal plays a central part in President Obamas vow to address climate change before leaving office.
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Some Democrats were also quick to criticize the proposal, including Kentucky Senate candidate Alison Lundergan Grimes and West Virginia Secretary of State Natalie Tennant, who is running for an open U.S. Senate seat. Tennant pledged to stand up to Obama, EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy and anyone else who tries to undermine our coal jobs.
Rep. Nick J. Rahall II (W.Va.), one of the most vulnerable Democrats seeking reelection this year, pledged to introduce legislation blocking the new rules. Several Senate Democrats, such as Mark Begich (Alaska) and Mary Landrieu (La.), who are friendly to the oil and gas industries that dominate their states issued cautious statements saying they would work with the EPA to make sure the plan did not hurt their constituents. Sen. Kay Hagan (D-N.C.) said she is looking for a balance that will cut carbon but work for business as well.
Major Hogwash
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It looks to me like it will be a lot closer Senate race now that Grimes has publicly distanced herself from President Obama, as she already has the Democratic vote locked up.
If the Democrats in Kentucky show up to the polls to cast their votes, she wins the race, hands down.
There are more registered Democrats in Kentucky than there are registered Republicans.
That is a fact.
What Grimes is trying to do now is to appeal to those moderate Republicans and Independents who voted for Mitt Romney in 2012 that are not happy with the way things have gone for them in the last 2 years.
They are not sure whose fault it is, Obama's or McConnell's.
So, Grimes is not preaching to the choir when she talks about the differences she has with President Obama, she is talking to those people in Kentucky who are fed up with McConnell, but who may not be a Democrat.
There are some people who will never vote for a Democrat.
They like to brag that they have never voted for a Democrat, and they say they never will.
Grimes is trying to talk them into voting for a Democrat for the very first time in their lives.
Grimes has to walk a very high tightrope in public, so please give her some room to waver a little bit.
She knows that half of the nation is watching her.
Half of those people are hoping to see her fall.
The other half are people like me who want to see McConnell swallow his tongue!
Whether the people of Kentucky realize it or not, she is the best candidate they have seen in that state in the last 30 years.*
Whether she can convince the people of Kentucky of that is a whole 'nother ballgame.
* McConnell has been in the Senate for the last 30 years.
kentuck
(111,078 posts)She has to get more votes than Barack Obama got in his last election or she loses. The President did not do well in Kentucky, as we know. She has to appeal to some independent-minded voters as well as get out the base of the Democratic Party.
She is the best candidate for the Senate in the last 30 years, but she probably has the toughest race in America in this election.
It is understandable that the Obama loyalists would be pissed at her but they will be more pissed if Majority Leader McConnell makes President Obama's life a living hell. It's not about race- it's about politics.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)A sexual act in which one partner licks/sucks/nibbles/etc. his or her partner's butthole.
I think McConnell should understand that word meanings change over the decades.
madokie
(51,076 posts)keep up the good work as the whole country needs a dose of what you have and its called gumption.
You got it girl and lots of it.
If it wasn't for the battles in my state, Oklahoma, I'd be giving money to Alison