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J_J_

(1,213 posts)
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 10:32 AM Oct 2014

High school football player, 18,brother, 20, charged with sexual assault of drunk boy who passed out

Last edited Tue Oct 14, 2014, 01:01 PM - Edit history (1)

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2214776/Football-player-brother-charged-raping-drunk-boy-passed-party-Alaska.html


Police were alerted to the assault by a nurse at a Homer hospital on September 10, according to a complaint filed in Homer Superior Court.

The party started late on Saturday, September 8 and continued into the next morning.

The boy arrived at the party about 10 pm, and witnesses said he was drinking heavily. He passed out on a couch about an hour later.

The party quickly grew from a few invited guests to as many as 80 people, including many members of the Homer Mariners football team.

Some of the people at the party began taking turns writing on the boy's body with markers before Anthony Resetarits shaved an 'M' into the boy's hair, an apparent reference to the team, it was reported.

Later, the boy's pants and underwear were removed and he was sexually assaulted, according to witnesses.

Numerous photographs were seized by troopers, including one showing the assault. The faces of the males conducting the assault aren't shown, but one teenage boy who provided the photo identified the brothers.


2 years later....



As of its meeting last Friday, a Kenai grand jury has not yet re-indicted the two Homer brothers accused of sexually assaulting a teenage boy at a September 2012 East End Road drinking party.

On Aug. 6, Kenai Superior Court Judge Carl Bauman dismissed without prejudice second-degree sexual assault charges against Anthony Resetarits, 22, and Joseph Resetarits, 19. The brothers were arrested Oct. 4, 2012, and indicted a year later on Sept. 20, 2013.

http://homernews.com/homer-news/local-news/2014-08-13/no-indictment-yet-in-resetarits-case



Is this what it has come to in America?

Someone is raped with hospital report , video, pictures as evidence, and the case is just dropped, victim gets absolutely no justice??

We just accept this now?

If this is how we treat US citizens, just what the hell are we defending as we spread 'democracy' in other countries?

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High school football player, 18,brother, 20, charged with sexual assault of drunk boy who passed out (Original Post) J_J_ Oct 2014 OP
Are you following the New Jersey football hazing scandal malaise Oct 2014 #1
We have become disgusting. Can you imagine what other nations think of us? jwirr Oct 2014 #2
yeah because no other countries have problems with rape cali Oct 2014 #19
I wasn't talking about rape - we have for decades presented ourselves as the leaders of the free jwirr Oct 2014 #35
Get a bunch of like-minded young men together, and it happens LeftinOH Oct 2014 #3
Or punish those involved ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #5
Yes! Thank you! MoonchildCA Oct 2014 #29
+1 TDale313 Oct 2014 #34
3) Harsh punishment for the rapists, so as to discourage others from trying it. arcane1 Oct 2014 #6
ANY punishment would be nice J_J_ Oct 2014 #13
I didn't play rugby, but I went to the rugby parties in college. cheapdate Oct 2014 #21
he might have been drugged J_J_ Oct 2014 #23
Covering this up empowers a sense of entitlement cheapdate Oct 2014 #28
It took me a moment to figure out where those cities are...Palin's Alaska. SoapBox Oct 2014 #4
not about Palin,but it is about her successor who has enabled assault in the national guard as well J_J_ Oct 2014 #11
Sure seems like it's accepted doesnt it? GOLGO 13 Oct 2014 #7
Male-on-male rape topics here do not get as much discussion, no, closeupready Oct 2014 #20
I don't think the discussion's complicated at all. sibelian Oct 2014 #40
That's one aspect, yes. closeupready Oct 2014 #41
Male victimhood is repellant. sibelian Oct 2014 #43
Yup. closeupready Oct 2014 #44
Future RNC Directors in the making. lpbk2713 Oct 2014 #8
this kid said in court that he wanted to be a coach someday J_J_ Oct 2014 #14
Having read the article mythology Oct 2014 #9
the trial was rigged J_J_ Oct 2014 #15
why hasn't the prosecutor done anything since it was dropped? J_J_ Oct 2014 #16
Another case of "affluenza" ?!?!? blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #33
Still not convinced "rape culture" exists? bullwinkle428 Oct 2014 #10
I googled 'assault homer alaska' and found plenty of links from US sources Beaverhausen Oct 2014 #12
It reads as a technical issue of law and the prosecutor can represent to the GJ again aikoaiko Oct 2014 #17
they had plenty of evidence from day one J_J_ Oct 2014 #24
When people cry, "The US is a rape culture", this isn't what they mean. closeupready Oct 2014 #18
Why does the Daily Mail have this and not the US media? Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #22
why did we hear about stubenville for months? J_J_ Oct 2014 #26
Luck of the draw, not elaborate conspiracies. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #32
Some media outlets did report on it. NCTraveler Oct 2014 #25
huffington post covered it too- the point is WHY IS THERE NO JUSTICE?!!! J_J_ Oct 2014 #27
You just completely changed the whole point of your op. NCTraveler Oct 2014 #30
"just what the hell are we defending as we spread 'democracy' in other countries?" Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #31
This is mercuryblues Oct 2014 #36
That's Shannyn Moore's home town KamaAina Oct 2014 #37
she won't report on this for some reason J_J_ Oct 2014 #38
Typical. closeupready Oct 2014 #42
Reading various articles, it may be that a younger, unidentified boy did the crime. Kaleva Oct 2014 #39

malaise

(268,844 posts)
1. Are you following the New Jersey football hazing scandal
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 10:39 AM
Oct 2014

Several teenagers have been arrested. The silence on that one is deafening - even on progressive message boards. Whereas there is lots of coverage about the violence against women and children from Afro-American footballers, this all white school appears to have been given a pass.

http://wgntv.com/2014/10/11/teens-charged-in-new-jersey-high-school-football-hazing-scandal/
<snip>
Police have arrested six New Jersey High School football players who are accused of hazing and sexual assault.

The hazing incident happened at Sayreville War Memorial High School in Central New Jersey.

The accused teens range in age from fifteen to seventeen.

They are charged with various counts of aggravated sexual assault, criminal restraint and hazing.

Prosecutors say the teenagers turned out the lights in the locker room and sexually abused four victims over the course of a ten day period in September.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
35. I wasn't talking about rape - we have for decades presented ourselves as the leaders of the free
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 03:39 PM
Oct 2014

world. We still think we are exceptional. Not so much. Yet when things like this happen we fail to examine what the root causes are. IMO What we are seeing in Ferguson MO and in this case and with the Trayvon Martin case is that they all stems from a bullying culture that has become more and more common. And the bullying is also seen in our attitude toward war. We have some kind of earned right to tell the world how to live. Maybe first we aught to straighten out our own problems.

LeftinOH

(5,353 posts)
3. Get a bunch of like-minded young men together, and it happens
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 11:05 AM
Oct 2014

EVERYWHERE:
http://www.dw.de/18-soldiers-indicted-in-hazing-case/a-1623143

So - the solution is either:

1) Be aware that these things can occur; encourage awareness of the potential for problems and be proactive about it...

-or-

2) Abolish every institution/organization in which abuses like these occur (the knee-jerk solution)

I'm going with #1.


 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
5. Or punish those involved ...
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 11:27 AM
Oct 2014

consistently and harshly, until the message gets through to these "like-minded young men" that society will not tolerate the sh!t that you apparently think, just happens.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
6. 3) Harsh punishment for the rapists, so as to discourage others from trying it.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 11:30 AM
Oct 2014

My choice actually places blame where it belongs.

 

J_J_

(1,213 posts)
13. ANY punishment would be nice
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 11:56 AM
Oct 2014

It doesn't seem like too much to ask. We're not asking for a pony here.




And even worse, when these criminals are not charged for their crimes, it empowers them even further.

Bullies and rapists everywhere are bragging, celebrating and planning their next crimes.

Coming to a town near you, make sure your kids bring their own drinks to parties and watch them every minute.

This is unacceptable!!!


cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
21. I didn't play rugby, but I went to the rugby parties in college.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 12:40 PM
Oct 2014

Its guaranteed that a rugby party will be populated by aggressive drunks. There is a reasonable expectation that awful shit will happen at some point. To avoid aggressive drunks and the awful shit they do, stay away from rugby parties.

That said, society has an interest in not allowing aggressive drunks to avoid facing consequences for the awful shit they do. Turning a blind eye to the awful shit that happens at their get-togethers invites lawlessness to spill into the outside world.

For this reason, the football players who vandalized the other boy's body can be punished.

But the real lesson here is NEVER, NEVER, EVER pass out drunk around drunk football players, rugby players, sailors, marines, or at a frat house.

Avoid them entirely and the places they gather, or expect the worst.

 

J_J_

(1,213 posts)
23. he might have been drugged
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 12:50 PM
Oct 2014

he had only been there an hour when he passed out

and when the community covers up the crime, school administrators allow rapists to continue playing football, police look the other way, justice system takes a payoff....

protecting rapists is now systemic!

the lesson is, don't trust anyone, anywhere, and certainly don't expect anyone to help you if you are victimized....and that really sucks!

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
28. Covering this up empowers a sense of entitlement
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 01:03 PM
Oct 2014

in the perpetrators. If there is no accountability and punishment now, they'll continue the behavior and their next crimes will be worse. The adults with authority will be culpable, morally if not legally.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
4. It took me a moment to figure out where those cities are...Palin's Alaska.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 11:21 AM
Oct 2014

That seemed to say a lot too.

 

J_J_

(1,213 posts)
11. not about Palin,but it is about her successor who has enabled assault in the national guard as well
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 11:52 AM
Oct 2014


Sean Parnell and pals are probably the ones who went after Palin so much that she quit. He worked for Exxon against the people of Alaska. He then worked for Conoco Phillips as lobbyist. Then he snuck in under Palin and got the governorship by default. The state has been going bankrupt ever since and he and cronies, two who openly work for Conoco Phillips, just gave tax cuts to oil companies costing the state 2 Billion per year.

He took office and started a campaign "choose respect" to stop the record number of assaults in Alaska.

However, what he has done is quite the opposite.

He covered up national guard assaults for years, even leading to the murder of one victim. He gave a medal to one of the perpetrators.

He came to Homer to talk about the assault, he knows about this, and probably made sure this corruptable judge was on the case.

Worse than that, one officer was a coach, must have not given all the evidence. The police didn't even arrest these guys until a month after the assault and they had all of the evidence a day afterward. But, it was the middle of an important playoff season.

After this, the football team got new turf and the police are getting a new station to cost 25 million.

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
7. Sure seems like it's accepted doesnt it?
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 11:35 AM
Oct 2014

So many people on this very site immediately rush to the side of the offender because of their age. It's standard norm procedure around here to excuse even the most vilest of behavior.

It's OK. Their just kids.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
20. Male-on-male rape topics here do not get as much discussion, no,
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 12:22 PM
Oct 2014

as male-on-female rape. A discussion as to why that is so would be very, very long and complicated, probably way beyond the scope of this board.

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
40. I don't think the discussion's complicated at all.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 01:34 PM
Oct 2014

The answer to "why" is one word - misandry.

Of course it is. Internalised, externalised, all one thing.
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
41. That's one aspect, yes.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 01:41 PM
Oct 2014

But everyone has a different agenda when they decide to participate in any given discussion.

It's interesting to ask, if it is true that men rape women as essentially a power play, then is it also a power play when women rape men? And if so, why do women-raping-men stories get so little discussion here, and when they do, why do so many men and women here applaud the predator, or the act of rape?

It's really all too big and unwieldy for me. It's sad, but it's a fact of life. DU is a small group of us newshounds who lean left, but it IS a reflection of society.

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
43. Male victimhood is repellant.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 01:54 PM
Oct 2014

There's a sort of activation threshhold you have to get over before anyone takes anything bad happening to a man seriously. I think it's ubiquitous.
 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
9. Having read the article
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 11:38 AM
Oct 2014

I think you're being misleading when you say that this is an example of how rape victims don't get justice. The judge ruled that the prosecutor didn't present exculpatory evidence. That's how the system is supposed to work.

The prosecutor can get a new indictment if they follow the law.

 

J_J_

(1,213 posts)
15. the trial was rigged
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 12:00 PM
Oct 2014

the 'prosecutor' was paid off.

They had all the evidence they needed from day one.

Hospital evidence, videos on youtube, pictures....

They stalled the trial for two years, then just dropped it right beforehand.

 

J_J_

(1,213 posts)
16. why hasn't the prosecutor done anything since it was dropped?
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 12:02 PM
Oct 2014

They don't want a new indictment.

They were paid to throw the case.

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
12. I googled 'assault homer alaska' and found plenty of links from US sources
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 11:55 AM
Oct 2014

not sure why you keep saying no one here reported on it.

aikoaiko

(34,165 posts)
17. It reads as a technical issue of law and the prosecutor can represent to the GJ again
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 12:17 PM
Oct 2014



Specifically, Moberly said testimony by Alaska State Trooper Samuel Webber, one of the investigating officers, regarding what another witness told him was hearsay — that is, Webber reporting second hand what a boy who had been at the party told him. That boy had taken a photo of the victim passed out, with two people standing next to him after the assault. The photo had been framed so that the faces couldn’t be seen. Although the witness had been called, he was not at the grand jury hearing. Moberly argued the district attorney’s office had plenty of time to line up witnesses.

At press time, Bauman had not released to the press his 15-page written decision. He said he wanted to wait on that while he reviewed private information regarding the witnesses and the victim.

“I say victim because I believe there’s a victim,” Bauman said. “It’s not an alleged victim, it’s a victim — which is not to say who is responsible for that victim, but there’s clearly a victim in the court’s view.”
 

J_J_

(1,213 posts)
24. they had plenty of evidence from day one
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 12:55 PM
Oct 2014

report from nurses at hospital

video on youtube

picture taken by person who identified them as the perpetrators



Why did it take two years to come to trial?

.... then it was dropped before trial because they are not sure what happened?

It is my understanding that a trial takes place to bring all evidence to light, then make a determination of guilt.

But for some reason, all the evidence in the world and they don't bring it to trial.



They threw the case, there is no other explanation.

No one has ever heard of this?

The prosecutor and judge are paid off, so they don't really try.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
18. When people cry, "The US is a rape culture", this isn't what they mean.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 12:19 PM
Oct 2014

Homosexual/male-on-male rape doesn't get nearly the scrutiny that heterosexual rape does. I won't hazard a guess as to why, but it's blindingly obvious that this is so.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
22. Why does the Daily Mail have this and not the US media?
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 12:40 PM
Oct 2014

Because the Daily Mail is a well-funded, sensationalist rag that thrives on stuff like this.

Because this is a local news story in Homer, Alaska.

 

J_J_

(1,213 posts)
26. why did we hear about stubenville for months?
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 12:58 PM
Oct 2014

Why do we talk about other stupid shit for months on end in US media but this is not brought up?

This is a systemic choice to enable this behavior,

The media, the elites, the corruption everywhere is driving us toward being a digusting culture designed for sociopaths.
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
32. Luck of the draw, not elaborate conspiracies.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 01:31 PM
Oct 2014

The question about why Steubenville went viral while other incidents haven't is interesting. Stuebenville had a persistent blogger--Prinnified, I think--that kept the heat on, then attracted Anonymous's attention, and then the big media got interested.

But again, this is a local crime issue, and apparently, not even a crime issue.

You could, perhaps, write an angry letter to the Homer Tribune.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
25. Some media outlets did report on it.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 12:56 PM
Oct 2014

Mostly local. I think the question is....why does a uk based rag report on it? Google search will bring up local articles for you.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
30. You just completely changed the whole point of your op.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 01:14 PM
Oct 2014

Originally your op was completely about the media. Didn't make much sense. Now a legitimate question has been raised. Maybe do some research, find out what happened, and make an op on it.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
31. "just what the hell are we defending as we spread 'democracy' in other countries?"
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 01:18 PM
Oct 2014

If you define "Democracy" as "Lock em up and throw away the key" than take heart.

During the Bush Years in Iraq we held a press conference to proudly announce the opening of a state of the art jail we built for them.

mercuryblues

(14,526 posts)
36. This is
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 04:01 PM
Oct 2014

not so different from the Steubenville case before it caught on in big media. There had to be a massive public outcry before anything was done. By anything, I mean bare minimum. Only 2 football players charged. One of them is already back on the team.

The media were more concerned about the loss of the criminals future:


"These two young men who had such promising futures -- star football players, very good students -- literally watched as they believed their life fell apart," Harlow said. Crowley asked a CNN legal analyst, “What’s the lasting effect though on two young men being found guilty juvenile court of rape essentially?”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/20/poppy-harlow-cnn-steubenville-rape-coverage-criticism_n_2914853.html


Even though the victims are different sexes, the criminals have something in common. Star players for the local team, parents with clout in the local community. Police connections. Too many times we have seen this happen.

We even have a blame the victim mentality starting. You know...if he wasn't passed out drunk. SSDS. If *some* people can't or won't take rape seriously when the victim is a female, don't be shocked when they don't take rape seriously when the victim is a male and the male is treated the same as a woman would. You would think that Men's rights groups would get involved with a case such as this. Too bad they claim rape is nothing more than buyers remorse, victims are to blame because they had a drink, what do you expect men to do after they have been drinking and a woman shows up?

This is my favorite:

The National Post columnist asserted that the time has come to arrest and prosecute rape and assault victims for their wrongdoing, seeing this push as “long overdue.” Said Kay, “It’s about time we saw ‘having a cocktail and talking to the opposite sex’ for what it is – not just an open invitation for men to act on their natural urges but as an aggressive act that coerces men into committing crimes. If that isn’t illegal, I don’t know what legality means.”

http://www.newslo.com/mens-rights/






There's something fishy going on in Homer Alaska and it isn't confined to Daddy's fishing boats.
 

J_J_

(1,213 posts)
38. she won't report on this for some reason
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 11:46 AM
Oct 2014

maybe she is friends with the family or something

she went after parnell for national guard sexual assaults that have been covered up, but won't mention this obvious injustice.

Kaleva

(36,290 posts)
39. Reading various articles, it may be that a younger, unidentified boy did the crime.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 01:25 PM
Oct 2014

An example:

"Troopers’ reports “tend to support Anthony’s assertions,” Bauman wrote. An unidentified witness who was questioned by troopers initially said she did not see who assaulted the 17-year-old but thought Anthony did it. When pressed, “she broke down crying” and changed her story. She said she’d seen the younger boy assault the victim and agreed to protect him, according to the decision.

The girl’s statement about peer pressure to protect the true assailant “does not establish that there was actually such a conspiracy,” Bauman wrote. “But a conspiracy among some of the party participants to lie or mislead the investigation to protect a favored youth would be troublesome and is noteworthy.”"

http://www.adn.com/article/20140806/judge-dismisses-sexual-assault-case-against-homer-men

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