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flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 02:05 PM Apr 2012

Nail on Head: Bill Maher on Ozzie Guillen, Fidel Castro and hipocrisy

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/14/bill-maher-defends-i-love-castro-comments-ozzie-guillen_n_1425597.html

Bill Maher took to his "Real Time" pulpit on Friday to make a bold defense against those who condemned Miami Marlins manager Ozzie Guillen for saying "I love Fidel Castro" in an interview. Maher encouraged his viewers to take a harder look at whether Guillen was truly out of line for proclaiming admiration for the longtime Communist dictator of Cuba, who handed power to his brother in 2008 but remains a powerful figure in Cuban and international politics.

Guillen made the comments to TIME Magazine last week, but later claimed that they were mistranslated and apologized profusely after he was suspended for five games. But Maher felt that the apology and suspension were completely unnecessary. "If you say something Communists don't like, they take away your job and send you to a re-education camp until you come out with the one approved opinion," Maher said sarcastically. "We wouldn't want that here in America."

He pointed out that Castro's longevity in the face of over five decades of attempts on his life make him a "badass."

"Despite all odds and all logic, Castro still draws breath. He's the political equivalent of Keith Richards," Maher said to applause. MORE


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Cleita

(75,480 posts)
1. That was a pretty good monologue.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 02:09 PM
Apr 2012

Also, people don't remember the time when Americans loved Castro. Many went to Cuba to fight with his guerillas in order to overthrow a very corrupt dictator. It's when Castro embraced communism instead of democracy that our country soured on him.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
4. Currently is not 1959 when Castro achieved power.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 02:17 PM
Apr 2012

Back then anti-communism was a religion. However, that being said, I agree we are not treating Cuba and China equally.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
3. Do you mean the Venceremos Brigade?
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 02:15 PM
Apr 2012

I wonder if there were many individuals going to fight with Castro, that would be interesting to read up on.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
6. Partly, but there were many other individuals, who went there, the
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 02:20 PM
Apr 2012

most famous being Errol Flynn, the movie star. He even made a couple of documentary movies about it:

http://www.1worldfilms.com/Cuba/cubanstory.htm

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
8. Thanks for that link, here's something about Saul Landau in the early days
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 02:37 PM
Apr 2012

I wonder what other celebrities kept going to Cuba in the 1960s, there were so many
working there at the nightclubs, Eartha Kitt, etc.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_forever_fidel_obsession_20100919/

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
9. nixon met with castro for 4 minutes while eisenhower played golf and refused to meet with him.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 03:16 PM
Apr 2012

after the brief meeting nixon proclaimed castro a communist (remember that nixon was joseph mccarthy's right hand man and could spot a commie a mile away).
castro was a nationalist.
after the US rejected castro in this fashion he had to find someone to support his revolution.
in the bi-polar world we created that meant the soviets were his only option.
we have a tendency to turn nationalists into communists if they won't tow our line.

 

got root

(425 posts)
5. excellent analogy at the begining
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 02:17 PM
Apr 2012

in "Communist" countries when you say the wrong thing you can lose your job, and get sent to a reeducation camp until you come out with the ONE proper opinion.

good thing we don't have that here in 'freedom' land.

zactly.

thanks for sharing

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
7. I'm very glad that the Cuban Americans
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 02:20 PM
Apr 2012

also known as the Miami Mafia, are being called out on this one.

They can't get away with firing Guillen but he will feel uncomfortable in Miami for a looong time.
He lives there and will receive comments on the street over this, for sure, no more hanging out
at Versailles on Calle Ocho for sure!

 

DutchLiberal

(5,744 posts)
11. It's so hypocritical of Obama to oppose the dictatorship in Cuba, yet support he one in Honduras.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 08:08 PM
Apr 2012

Of course, the fascist coup-regime in Honduras came into power in 2009 by deposing a *left-wing* president, so then it's all okay...

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
12. It's the effect of the Monroe Doctrine.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 08:22 PM
Apr 2012

It's much easier to corrupt fascist dictators with money to go along with USA agenda than those messy left wing democracies that aren't that easily bought.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
13. Good point
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 08:51 PM
Apr 2012

The exchange they offer to Cuba is to get on their knees, in the historical context, for relief of the embargo.

However, I believe Obama wants to alleviate the situation and it's Hillary who has blocked any forward
thinking. That's one of the reasons I'd like to see her move on. Her brother is married to a right wing
Cuban American lawyer so I doubt anything will change while she's in power.

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