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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsShould all flights in and out of Texas be stopped "to mitigate the threat of a future outbreak?"
And what about roads?
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20141002-ebola-case-in-dallas-wont-prompt-travel-restrictions--yet.ece
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)For what purpose would this be necessary and why wouldn't it bother you?
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)But then as a long-time South Austinite I consider anything north of Town Lake as South Dallas.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)blue? WTF is up with that?
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)hollysmom
(5,946 posts)I want them to secede so that we won't have ebola in the USA anymore.
strawberries
(498 posts)should we close down Boston?
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)take out. It can cost us a bundle as police have to babysit her, but special snowflake lives on.
Look, it was a joke. moving on.
strawberries
(498 posts)hollysmom
(5,946 posts)to help swing the vote (much like my sister wanted me to move to North Carolina because she said the voters are crazy religious people. Why would I want to move to a state the did not have the same beliefs as me - oh wait, that would be every where, Nope, going to die in my house and make my family get rid of everything in it, too much work for me to move now.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)It is the only effective response to this epidemic, or so I've been told here on DU.
Meanwhile a friend of mine's daughter is volunteering to go to Liberia as part of our military response team. She's an RN and is getting trained by the CDC and will be there in a few weeks working on an actual effective response.
Vinca
(50,236 posts)Apparently the hospital had no protocols and the original patient was left lying round the ER for hours with no special treatment. Employees were taking no special precautions. They were exposed. Other patients were exposed. This could really snowball.
librechik
(30,673 posts)justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)I think there's a difference between two isolated cases and then countries that are at epidemic levels of outbreak.
As far as we know, everyone in Texas is being monitored. I think placing a temporary ban on incoming and outgoing flights, sans relief workers and scientists, is not a bad thing if we're talking about areas that are at epidemic level. Texas isn't quite there yet.
Drayden
(146 posts)In a thread filled with idiotic statements. West Africa has has over 10,000 cases of Ebola, TX has had 3, caused by 1 immigrant from Liberia. Yes, travel should be shut down from West Africa, just like other countries have done. Had we done that in the first place, Duncan wouldn't have brought ebola to TX. It's all fun and games until it shows up in your state.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)And not everyone labels those things when they post.
Welcome to DU!
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Connecting flights within Europe would be a big problem. It could not be just direct flight from Africa. What if somebody from Europe went to Africa. Went back home to say London. Stay there for a few days and then flew to the US from London. That would not even be a connecting flight. Stop flights to and from London? You would have to depend on the British, French,Belgians, etc., to stop all their flights to and from Africa.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)you don't get to fly to the U.S. You don't have to stop all International travel you just stop those that have been to Africa in the last two months.
Renew Deal
(81,844 posts)South Africa, Egypt, etc. have not had this problem.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)They didn't stamp my Passport in the Bahamas on a cruise. Nobody would ever know that I have ever visisted the place. Coming back? US Customs were waving anyone with a US Passport right through.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)or any other state for that matter. How would you stop people from driving, or just walking, in and out? Impossible. lol
edhopper
(33,467 posts)Sessions is an idiot if he thinks cancelling flights from W Africa to here will stop the threat.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)Doesn't matter where the person flies in from, that person from Liberia, Sierra Leone, etc., needs a visa to get here. You can easily determine where the visa was issued and when.
It's not rocket science.
edhopper
(33,467 posts)with Sessions ??!!??
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)that quarantine is the best way to decrease infection, whether it's one patient, one household, one village, or an entire country if need be.
But then they get on tv and say stupid shit like "that would only make things worse because we couldn't get doctors and supplies in and out of western Africa." Who wrote that stupid script?
It's just idiotic. As if we have never thought of phrases like "exceptions for medical personnel and military" who would also have to use precautions and might also have to be quarantined before departure to go back to their home countries.
MORE needs to be done in western Africa! The UN and WHO needs to step up and get the world involved in helping these people before hundreds of thousands die.
Meanwhile, we fling shit at the nurses in Dallas. Sad.
edhopper
(33,467 posts)have a nice day.
I would just be juried out if I told you what I thought of that post.
Quarantine the country?
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)The problem is only their citizens? As far as passports, read my post about my passport.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)As for other countries, I don't know, but that is not a difficult requirement to implement.
Containment is the key...along with better care for the people in those western African countries! It's like they have fallen off the map, now that we have a few ebola cases here!
There's hysteria, and then there are proper precautions. Right now, we have lots of hysteria (ok, some hysteria over improper precautions on my part...haha). I worked (past tense) in a hospital lab assisting and doing phlebotomy going room to room, so I know what it's like to see your first highly contagious patient in four months and the mental preparation "Now, how do I do that again?"
Seriously.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)I just got back from Europe, I went on vacation. I had no visa for my travel there and I was allowed to roam free for over a week.
Again I am naive to this but doesn't the U.S. allow similar behavior for tourists, or folks on business trips?
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)I've only need visas to enter two countries and that was years ago.
And, I did need a visa for an extended stay in one country that doesn't otherwise require a visa.
However, that was long ago.
yellowcanine
(35,693 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)over Texas, a state unwilling to "waste" taxpayer money on public health and controlling its epidemic health problems. Build their border wall, just re-routed a bit...
(Rational, responsible Texans, I haven't really forgotten you're there.)
edhopper
(33,467 posts)our country would be better off.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Ron Green
(9,822 posts)and I want get on this plane.
FloriTexan
(838 posts)If they are going to lock it down, then lock everything down for a month. I live in the Dallas area and ride the train that serves the area around Presbyterian Hospital. We've had some serious transit issues the last month because of high winds and power outages. We had a four-hour commute home one evening when all rail service shut down. Hundreds of us were dumped off at the Mockingbird Station which is right across the street from Presby to wait for shuttle buses. It was total chaos and people who thought they were being funny joking about ebola when we're literally packed in a train or bus, shoulder to shoulder were not appreciated.
I am starting to get a little concerned and wonder how many of the health care workers rode the train or bus to the hospital.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)That would cut security by 50%, leaving only Hannity to protect us from immigrant children!
Crunchy Frog
(26,574 posts)Ms. Toad
(33,992 posts)flew within 24 hours of displaying symptoms - with 132 new contacts now being sought for monitoring.
http://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/index.ssf/2014/10/dallas_ebola_patient_traveled.html
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
strawberries
(498 posts)How are we cleaning the planes? Not so much TX.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)And whatever other states Mr. Duncan's contacts have been visiting recently.