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kpete

(71,982 posts)
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 04:01 PM Oct 2014

They obviously didn’t bother to speak to a single nurse on the front lines.


TPM Reader JM on Rick Scott, hospital preparedness and the "Ebola cart" ...

I have a perspective tying together today’s big news brouhahas. My wife is an ER nurse at a major urban hospital owned by the Hospital Corporation of America, the hospital chain once run by Rick Scott. It’s the largest for-profit medical system in the world, and is of course also notable for its ‘creative billing’ practices in the largest Medicare fraud settlement in history. Scott was booted from the CEO position following that fraud investigation, so he’s not directly responsible for current conditions in those hospitals.

But it is obvious to those who work there that the combination of lax training and toxic labor relations ‘leaders’ like him have brought to the company are emblematic of a big problem for US hospitals if a major outbreak of ebola or other infectious disease occurs. My wife’s ER has an ‘ebola cart’ with some lightweight protective gear and written instructions for putting on a PPE, but the instructions are a loose bundle of papers and the pictures don’t match the gear in the cart and has inaccuracies that put them at serious risk. It’s an object of gallows humor for the staff. That’s the totality of their training or preparedness so far. As we all now know, PPEs are not easy to put on and take off correctly. Even though nurses all have experience with standard droplet control (they see TB and HIV all the time), ebola is a special case. They have gone months and months without a nurse education director because no one wants to deal with their management and take the position. Her coworkers are clear that they will refuse to treat an ebola patient because they have woefully inadequate training in the correct procedures and lack proper gear.

And yet the head of infectious disease at this hospital went on the local news to proclaim the hospital was ready to receive ebola patients safely. They obviously didn’t bother to speak to a single nurse on the front lines. I’m not particularly panic-y about ebola, even though obviously the family members of ER personnel have a lot at stake in ebola preparedness. But I think that this situation will be the weak link in any major national response. So many of our hospitals are run by lunatics like Rick Scott who seek only the highest profit margin. They do not invest in training, they build charting mechanisms that are good for billing but not treating patients, they constantly fight with their unionized employees, they lie to the public, etc, etc. We like to imagine that competent, highly-skilled medical institutions like Emory will save us, but we have way more Dallas Presbyterians in this country than we have Emorys. You can see exactly this managerial incompetence—and toxic labor relations—woven through the statement released by the nurses at Dallas Presbyterian today. Also see the head of National Nurses United on All In With Chris Hayes for a similar perspective.

To put it bluntly: we’ve entrusted our national medical system to the managerial competence and goodwill of the Rick Scotts of the world, and that is much scarier than a podium fan.


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They obviously didn’t bother to speak to a single nurse on the front lines. (Original Post) kpete Oct 2014 OP
But we have the best health care in the world Kber Oct 2014 #1
K&R deutsey Oct 2014 #2
my daughter is a nurse at one of their hosps in Jax. blindersoff Oct 2014 #3
An Epidemic is not compatible with Profit. PeoViejo Oct 2014 #4
+10000 etherealtruth Oct 2014 #5
MBAs running hospitals is a prescription for disaster. Ilsa Oct 2014 #6

Kber

(5,043 posts)
1. But we have the best health care in the world
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 04:08 PM
Oct 2014

if the private sector cannot keep is safe, perhaps a government take over is necessary.

blindersoff

(258 posts)
3. my daughter is a nurse at one of their hosps in Jax.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 04:36 PM
Oct 2014

She works in the critical care unit, called me this morning to say that their hospital has admitted a patient to rule out ebola. The patient is on her unit and although she is not taking care of them, she is quite perturbed and a bit nervous about the whole thing. She is HOPING that the hospital is doing everything that needs to be done about PPEs, but says that since it is a for-profit hospital she hopes that they don't try to cheap out to make their bottom line.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
6. MBAs running hospitals is a prescription for disaster.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 07:08 PM
Oct 2014

My own experience with Columbia HCA was before it got as bad as this, but still, the staff nurses and lowest rung of nurse managers were frustrated 15-20 years ago with medicine for profit. One night I was stretched so thin with too many patients on the floor that needed either ICU or hospice, that i nearly quit when i went off shift in the morning. What's worse, it made me wonder if I still wanted to be a nurse.

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