Whoa! Nurse's uncle says she never

[StarlightGold]

Contacted the CDC!!!! I was watching Good Morning America and Amber's uncle just said to Robin that "Amber never contacted the CDC".

[JustAnotherGen]

1. Another thread here

She contacted the worthless officials in TX - who claim to have called the CDC

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025679043

[morningfog]

3. But the CDC confirmed they approved of the trip.

So the worthless official in TX passed on the info from the CDC.

[morningfog]

2. Right. It was a game of telephone. But the CDC did approve

the flight.

The uncle also says she didn't have a fever until the day of the flight.

[Ilsa]

4. Screwy interview.

He says "fever" when none existed.
Smacks of someone wanting his 15 minutes of fame.

[garagedoor]

5. It Is Simply Amazing How

There is a Blaming Posse for Amber Vinson and now her family member is "wanting his 15 minutes of fame." The woman, who is not doing well enough to be interviewed, is being blamed by spurious media outlets of starting an outbreak in two states.

Well, her uncle had Amber Vinson's story correct, i.e., Amber telephoned the Texas authorities who then telephoned the CDC for direction. Yes, Amber's uncle stated "fever" as most lay-people will say any elevated temperature is a fever (contrary to medical fact). Chris Cuomo of CNN stated Amber had a fever before returning to Dallas. Chris stated this erroneous fact AT 7:27 am THIS MORNING, October 17. Chris Cuomo is the star of CNN New Day and is a journalist who is trusted to get the facts right.

Additionally, Amber's uncle refuted CNN claims made by Anderson Cooper last night that Amber Vinson might have had a fever and symptoms on Friday. He and the bridal shop owner/manager that hosted Amber and her bridal party say there were no signs of symptoms, NONE.

I really wish more people would think about how she is faring and will fare under this outrageous assault of misinformation by the media that Blames this poor girl and now her family.

[JustAnotherGen]

6. Me too

I'm learning- wait 48 hours prior to having an opinion on anything the media reports. Sort of an incubation period to see if their habitual lying and shock value for ratings - comes to reveal itself.

[Ilsa]

13. See my post below.

I have been defending the nurse in every thread i posted in. I have issues with second and third hand information.

Questioning this new source is NOT attacking the nurse.

[Yo_Mama]

7. It's National Blame The Nurse Day

Of all possible responses, blaming the nurse is the worst. The bottom line is that she followed all the directions she was given and even went beyond them.

CDC does instruct to call your local first because they can't handle the call volume. They are supposed to prescreen and then consult with CDC. CDC did say the woman could fly. If Vinson had instead gone to a local hospital, they would have done the same and would have followed whatever the CDC said to do. People don't seem to grasp that. Local hospitals aren't even testing for Ebola independently. You have to get clearance from CDC before even testing (CDC wants the locals to call the state for prescreening). If she was advised that she was low-risk and she should get on that plane, then if she had gone to the local ER she would have been kept waiting, and then she would have been dismissed from the ER. She did what she was supposed to do, the process failed, and now the response is to vilify HER?

People are blaming this lady for traveling when she could have been treating patients and other exposed HCW WERE treating patients. She's a nurse. If you are told that you can work, you know that the risk to the public from contact should be NOTHING. You have closer contact with patients and they are more vulnerable. The problem is that the risk assessment for this workers was flawed, not that the workers themselves were irresponsible. Same thing for the worker on the cruise ship.

These people were only placed under quarantine protocol after the infections were detected, and as soon as she heard the news about the first infection, Vinson called for instructions, then did as she was told. I don't know what more we can expect people to do.

Now every single HCW who might have to treat an Ebola case has gotten the message "Put yourself at risk and follow official instructions, and if something goes wrong, instead of help and advice, you will get blamed." Is that likely to help response efforts?

This is a pretty rough learning curve, but we are learning. We need to focus on what we should be doing for the future rather than attacking the people whose lives were accidentally impacted this way.

Because this lady did her job she is now facing a life-threatening infection. That is NOT HER FAULT. Because the official risk assessment was wrong, her contacts are being traced. THAT IS NOT HER FAULT.

[Pisces]

8. Not using common sense is her fault. She should have self quarantined like the first nurse to see if

her temp kept going up. She knew she attended Duncan, she knew another nurse contracted Ebola, she knew the first signs,
she is a nurse!!! Sorry, but we have to hold those on the front lines accountable. It is not good enough to pass the buck and say that someone on the line told her it was ok to get on a plane. She was worried and that is why she made the phone call. You
don't need to ask permission to do the right thing.

I am not saying crucify her, I am advocating that everyone must ask hard questions so that these inept mistakes don't keep
happening. There is blame to go all around, but 1 nurse acted accordingly and another did not. Her wedding plans were more
important.

[Yo_Mama]

9. This was the first day she had an elevated temp

It wasn't even a fever. How do you self-quarantine when you find yourself away from home when that happens?

If she had gone to a hospital, they would have called the CDC. Would the hospital have done anything different if they got the same answer from the CDC? They would have sent her on.

We can't get Ebola testing for low risk exposures. We know. We've tried. We send them to the hospital, they don't get tested. So, we gave up. Because even if they are low-risk, if you send them to the hospital and they don't get tested, it is a risk to the health care system.

We don't know what to tell these people. Not everyone can afford to self-quarantine at home for three weeks waiting to see if they get sick, and those with small kids don't want to.

Everyone yelling at this nurse is living in a fantasy world. CDC controls all of this. If they tell you you're low-risk, you don't get tested and you're on your own.

[Pisces]

11. You don't abdicate common sense to someone in authority. She is an educated nurse who worked

directly with an Ebola patient at the end of his life. She could have gone back to her hotel and waited a day to see if her temp was rising, then when she saw that it was she could have called CDC and said I have EBOLA!! Gone to the hospital in Ohio or waited for CDC to come get her and send her to Emery.

This is how the so many corrupt things happen in the country. Think the financial crisis. There were thousands of employees that knew
things weren't right, but their boss told them and they assumed the bosses bosses knew so do as I'm told. No accountability from
anyone. Think hazing. Older more knowledgeable brother tells you to hurt a pledge and you do because hey he was the one in charge. Not my fault some kid died.

We all bear responsibility for our own actions. It is not ok to say the CDC told me I could travel when you weren't feeling well.
She had body aches, and elevated temp!!

You don't ask permission to do something in your gut you know is wrong!!

[Ilsa]

12. I don't blame the nurse at all. I've been defending her

on every thread I've posted on.

I'm not big, however, on accepting stories from third sources. How does the uncle know this? Was he with her when she called? Or is he getting this second hand from another relative?

I'd rather wait and hear from the patient after she's feeling better, which i hope is her outcome. She's a hero in my book, not a selfish person, not without common sense as some on this board claim.

[LeftInTX]

10. I wonder if she called her employeer

Who is also called "Texas Health". ABC said she talked with "Texas health officials".

I absolutely can not imagine calling the Texas Department of Health and telling them my symptoms and asking them if I could fly. (It would be like calling the DMV)

If I were in her shoes, I would have called the hospital.