MSNBC

[ebbie15644]

I try to watch it but can't anymore. I can't even take Rachel Maddow anymore. They no longer do any real journalism and they pick the latest ratings "gimmick" and do it 24/7. I'm done and it's a shame because we NEED a liberal voice in the media. I miss Keith Olbermann he would have never put up with this!

[COLGATE4]

1. I'm with you. Since they lost Keith O

and then Martin Bashir (the only 2 reliably strong liberal voices on MSNBC) it's hardly worth watching. Rachel has become far too 'gimmicky' with her style and presentations. Tweety blows hot and cold and Big Ed is usually a strong Liberal but doesn't carry the weight Keith and Bashir did.

[kentuck]

2. Trainload of commercials

One after another.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

3. I still see them doing stories I heard about

on Dem Underground or Daily Kos a week or two earlier quite often. But they at least usually have some details I didn't see earlier.

[SCVDem]

4. I dvr everything

I find that an hour show takes ten minutes.

Hayes and Tweety are hyperventilating and Rachel has gone overboard with the fear aspect.

Dare I say that Shephard got it right?

Enough with the all day repetition of nothing.

[ebbie15644]

5. Even When they aren't covering Ebola

24/7 Rachel has been frustrating me. I'm not in school, I don't need a lecture for half her show. I do know what's going on and much of her information is very redundant to me. I end up getting frustrated and flipping the channel multiple times.

[MissDeeds]

8. That's exactly how I feel

I used to love to watch Rachel, but her constant "teaching" wore thin. I want to be informed and enlightened, to hear what the news is and what is going on in the country and the world. The didactic approach is not only grating but a bit insulting.

[deutsey]

6. I don't watch it regularly anymore

I listen to little ol' KPFA online (a left-wing radio station in Berkeley that pioneered listener-supported broadcasting in 1949), but it's struggling through another pledge drive that seems to be yet another uphill slog. I get so much good info from so many of their programs, I'd hate to see it go under.

[blm]

7. I want my news/info STRAIGHT-FORWARD. I abhor 'schtick' when used

as a trademark - it soon becomes tiresome and sounding like they are parodying themselves.

[ebbie15644]

10. I hope they make some changes

I really don't want to see it go under but it is HARD to watch!

[ChiciB1]

18. Ratings Are Tanking According To Thom Hartmann! n/t

[Atman]

9. To be fair, MSNBC *NEVER* did any real journalism.

Unlike Fox "News," the word "News" appears nowhere in MSNBC's name, advertising or promotions. They never pretending to be "News" channel, as Fox claims to be. They are "The Place for Politics." Period. Fox dupes its viewers with their "Fair And Balanced" slogan. MSNBC says "The Place For Politics" or "Lean Forward." They are an OPINION channel, and have never been anything else.

[Stardust]

11. I watch msnbc off and on all day and Tweety and Rachel in full (and quite often Chris Hayes and

Lawrence O'Donnell, too.) I appreciate all their news programming except
Morning Schmo.

When I turn on Rachel, I prepare myself for a well thought out presentation that never ceases to enlighten me.

Keep grumbling about how much you hate it, folks, and you can pat yourselves on the back when liberal voices completely vanish from tv.

[ebbie15644]

12. Just stating my opinion and

the ratings back me up!

[yeoman6987]

15. Yes. Their ratings are brutal.

I wonder how long it can stay alive with so few viewers.

[ChiciB1]

20. AS I Just Stated THEIR Ratings ARE Tanking...

It's all people who don't have extra channels and are liberal minded have. So the choice is... watch or maybe will be gone!

[ebbie15644]

23. I am not watching something simply

because it's "Liberal" it has to be worth watching. All 3 primetime shows (Lawrence, Rachel and Chris) regurgitate the same stories and Rachel talks "down" to her audience. I'm not a "teabagger" and I don't like feeling like I'm taking a high school civics class.

[ChiciB1]

25. Oh, I'm NOT Disagreeing With You...

Nor do I think MSNBC is all that liberal, but it's the closest thing to a leaning left station. They do have some liberal guests who appear on various shows like Bernie Sanders. My preference there is Ed Schultz. I wish there was a station for liberals like the right has FOX. Don't think that's going to happen so MSNBC is about all there is.

I don't switch from FSTV until 3:00 or 4:00 PM each day. And at times go back to FSTV again. But I DO watch other programs other than politics.

[liberal from boston]

24. MSNBC

I agree Stardust. IMHO MSNBC was a major factor in President Obama's re-election. Lawrence's TLW is a must see program in my house. I go online to watch clips from Joy Reid but I also appreciate other MSNBC programs. MSNBC is not included in the basic cable package--I pay extra for MSNBC. Neilsen ratings include landlines & TV only & not mobile devices; smart phone, androids, kindle, etc. MSNBC hosts are factual, informative & all mistakes in reporting are acknowledged unlike Fox & now sadly CNN has become more conservative.

[kentuck]

13. MSNBC was always a commercial decision.

As an alternative for FOX News.

They decided to offer a network for the marketshare that was not being served by FOX or other networks - a more liberal market. It has worked fairly well up to now.

It was never about the philosophy of GE or Comcast to capture the majority of Americans with their new network. It was all about capturing the potential customers that had turned off FOX.

[Snotcicles]

14. What really cracks me up is the choreographed hand gestures.

You can tell they have been coached to do it. Almost all of them do it. Nobody I know in real life have their hands flailing around like that when they talk.They picked it up from the NFL commentators, I think it was John Madden that started the whole thing and it focused group it's way into all the talk shows. It cheapens the whole experience for me. I have even noticed Chris Hayes suddenly remember and start flailing again when the camera was on him. Even Rachel is now doing it. It's not news it's a show, with all the gimmicks, and flashy moving objects to trick you out of your attention and time.

[SheilaT]

16. Rachel sometimes covers fluff

or something that I don't consider very important. However, she almost as often does something brilliantly. You need to look at her opening segment on Wednesday when she described graphically how Ebola progresses in a patient.

Keith Olbermann also had his share of "Stories my producers make me do" which was always something totally unimportant.

[ChiciB1]

17. I'm Thankful I Have FSTV & Able To Watch It

But just to find out what the news people watch and absorb I turn to MSNBC from time to time. I HAVE noticed INCREASED commercials, almost 4 1/2 mins. at a time, then the logo of show comes up, then more commercials!

WATCH THIS SPACE! Yeah, keep watching the space, the space, the space....

[KoKo]

19. Have you tried these:

"Democracy Now"

http://www.democracynow.org/

Commercial Free and "Headlines of the Day" (Democratic Emphasis) are in the first five minutes of the show. Watch online or available to view anytime on Roku Box or stream with video and transcript. Old shows are also available on the site.
If you are sick of MSM this is one of the best.


Or even Abby Martin on "Breaking the Set" on RT America she's a bit like Rachel, but a real progressive who tackles tough issues (that get little time on MSM) and no commercials.

Here's a sample of what she talks about on her show:

http://rt.com/shows/breaking-set-summary/

[fredamae]

21. Maddow, Hayes, "Tweety"

All tell the same "rewritten/digested/regurgitated" stories-over and over.
It "feels" like they spend so much time pretending outrage over the GOP and then re-air videos etc..If I wanted to see that crap-I'd be watching a different channel. They don't ask the hard questions and the let "them" get away with not answering. MSM won't allow just any 'ol progressive on air, really and when they do....it seems only the ones who will use "talking points". Very few-just tell "it" like it is.

I too have nearly stopped. I record-and then fast forward...only to discover about 10 minutes is of interest to me-and yet-it's only interesting, not informative.

Sooooo, given that Bashir and Olbermann were driven out-we too have finally been driven away as well.
It's definitely Not the messenger-It's the Corporate Message that has caused my household to stop watching.


May Good, Authentic Journalism R.I.P.
Welcome to the world of carefully selected and scripted corporate "infomercials".

[elleng]

29. Rachel does not do that;

she breaks more stories than many/any other journalist.

[fredamae]

36. I like Maddow, Hayes etc

I don't care for the Corporate Script, that's all.
And - I politely disagree. She does "do it"-it's her job. They all "do it".
I do agree, she does break stories....and that is generally the "10 minutes or so I find of interest".

[bigwillq]

22. I haven't watched in years. Not missing anything.

Turn it off. You'll be better for it.

[Logical]

26. OK, what did rachel do now that caused you to trash a GREAT dem? nt

[elleng]

28. Rachel is the best journalist around, imo.

I also get useful facts and info from Chris Hayes and Lawrence O'Donnell. I don't watch the others.

[LawDeeDah]

34. She is, but would be better without corporate restraints.

The other day she had a revealing connect between Leon Penatta and the Clinton farm of influence and was supposedly to do a follow up, that didn't happen, as far I could see. Lawrence O'Donnell also had a show quite a while back about secret service bad shit related to the SoS while Hillary was in charge, and no serious follow up on that either.

[RKP5637]

30. There's way too much interlaced bullshit on MSNBC anymore IMO! I also miss Keith Olbermann! The two

most lame shows IMO are Morning Joe and MTP with Chuck Todd on NBC. I do like Rachel, Chris Hayes and Lawrence O'Donnell.

[Warpy]

31. Try Al Jazeera America

While their editorial bias is such that you'll never see a positive story on Israel, they also rarely do negative ones unless there is a shooting war going on.

Their language is neutral and their in depth stories wonderful. The neutral language is important, I've missed it since the con jobs bought up US media.

Facts always have a liberal bias, so even with the neutral language, you'll feel at home.

Just be aware that they do have a bias.

[Samantha]

33. I watch it quite a bit

I agree their indepth stories are great, but better than that is that one never sees Palin, Bachmann, Cruz et al. featured.

Sam

[oldandhappy]

32. I do not turn on the TV until time for Hayes.

Then Chris, Rachel, Laurence -- more and more often on but on mute. So, guess I am sliding in your direction! Any idea why? Must be programming cuts. There is so much going on in the world! Watching PBS news hour now and stories and they have stories I did not know, yea!

[ohnoyoudidnt]

35. Someone writes her checks and lets her be on the air.

I like her, but she can only do so much. You know who controls the media.