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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 10:24 AM Oct 2014

When the hazmat team decontaminates the apartments, do they just wipe down

or are all of the individuals personal items such as photo albums, computers and things of that sort destroyed? I know used linen and clothing has to be destroyed, but what other personal items are subject to being destroyed?

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randome

(34,845 posts)
2. No, they bring this guy in on every single location.
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 10:36 AM
Oct 2014


If he can't do the job, then we should all panic and second-guess the competence of professionals.
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5X

(3,972 posts)
3. I've been wondering the same thing,
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 11:42 AM
Oct 2014

particularly about their electronics. Cell phones, laptops. You can't just wipe down a laptop, too
many nooks and crannies. Laptops I work on are often gross, covered in detritus and food bits.

edit to add: I repair electronics, mostly laptops, but also game consoles and tv's. My job is in Tulsa,
not that far from Dallas, could see a scenario where the laptop of a health worker from Dallas could
end up being repaired in Tulsa.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
4. I think Duncan's apartment was gutted, probably at the request of management.
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 12:48 PM
Oct 2014

I think unless someone is having explosive diarrhea and projectile vomiting, that is complete overkill.

Dumb to destroy clothing and bed linens which can be laundered and put in a clothes dryer. Ebola would be deader than dead after that. But then somebody would be all freaked out over the washing machine. Because, you know, bleach hasn't been invented yet. And it's all irrelevant if the patient wasn't even sick yet when in contact with most of those clothes.

At any rate, I betcha the nurses' homes are NOT being gutted.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
5. It really shouldn't be necessary to destroy everything
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 01:23 PM
Oct 2014

I mean, I suppose if I had projectile-vomited or had diarrhea directly on my computer/photo album/etc, I probably wouldn't want to keep it anyway, but ebola doesn't live that long out of the host, even if it is in a pile of vomit. Leave everything alone for a week or two and it's gone.

How long does Ebola live outside the body?

Ebola is killed with hospital-grade disinfectants (such as household bleach). Ebola dried on surfaces such as doorknobs and countertops can survive for several hours; however, virus in body fluids (such as blood) can survive up to several days at room temperature.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
7. I'd treat it like my kid's room when they had head lice. Wash hot, dry hot, everything that could,
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 02:05 PM
Oct 2014

wipe up with bleach water everything that I could, then close it off for a month and let any remainders die.

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
9. Everything was removed and is going to be burned
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 02:54 PM
Oct 2014

Now to the stupidity part. Dallas County officials allowed Duncan's family to take some stuff with them when they left the apt to go be quarantined. There are pics of the family leaving with items such as headphones, the lady had a ball cap, and other items. Then the cleaners retrieved the family bible and a hard drive later to give to the family.

Um, so they feel the need to incinerate everything yet they allow family to take stuff.

One of the isolations that is required for Ebola is contact isolation. In true contact isolation NOTHING is allowed out of a room where the patient stays. Nothing. Be those items are at risk of having whatever bug on them that the patient has. Even of they want more ice water, we have to go get some other kind of container, fill it with ice water, and take it in. You CANNOT take the initial ice water jug OUT of the room.

Yet there they were...taking items out of the apartment where it was deems by the county that everything had to be burned.

And then there were the pics of county officials going into the apt with NO protection. Contact isolation protection requires gown and gloves when entering an infected person's area. Yes, Duncan was already out of the place but everything in that apartment (even floor and rugs) could have residual body fluids on them.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
10. They could have locked it up for a month. Not something available for hospitals, but for an apt?
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 03:04 PM
Oct 2014

After cleaning what could be cleaned, taking out highly contaminated bed, they could have just locked up everything else for the time it takes the virus to die outside the body. This is not like c diff, but will die outside a body.

Contact isolation is not required by anyone simply entering an infected person's area.
Anyone entering the room -- who may touch the patient or objects in the room -- should wear a gown and gloves. per http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/patientinstructions/000446.htm

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