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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumstoo bad we can't get michael brown's version of what happened when he encountered darren wilson
he who lives gets the last word....
Report: Michael Brown's blood found on Officer Darren Wilson's gun, car door
CNN) -- Forensic tests have found the blood of Michael Brown on the gun, uniform and police cruiser belonging to Officer Darren Wilson, who fatally shot the unarmed teen two months ago in Ferguson, Missouri, The New York Times reported.
The revelation, provided by unnamed government officials familiar with a federal civil rights investigation, marked the first public account of Wilson's testimony to investigators, but it immediately drew suspicion and anger from leading activists who portended an ominous reaction from Brown supporters.
Angela Whitman, a Ferguson resident who was among activists meeting with U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder there in August, found the newspaper account of Wilson's testimony "so hard to believe."
She said the report addressed only the initial encounter and not the subsequent fatal shooting, when some witnesses said Brown was surrendering with his hands up. But police said Wilson shot Brown after the teen attacked him and tried to take his gun.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/18/justice/michael-brown-darren-wilson-account/index.html
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)the point of having a death squad if it's going to leave witnesses?
spanone
(135,795 posts)Dorian Johnson, 22, who was walking with Brown on the street when the shooting occurred, told CNN that the officer pulled up and told them to get on the sidewalk.
They told him they were almost home, and would be off the street shortly.
The officer drove forward, but stopped and backed up, almost hitting the pair, Johnson said.
"We were so close, almost inches away, that when he tried to open his door aggressively, the door ricocheted both off me and Big Mike's body and closed back on the officer," he said.
Still in his car, the officer grabbed Brown by his neck, but he tried to pull away as the officer pulled him toward him, Johnson said.
The officer drew his weapon and fired, hitting Brown, Johnson said. A bloodied Brown took off running, but the officer followed him and fired, according to Johnson.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)no way exonerates him from a charge of 'excessive force' after the initial encounter was over. Every witness says Brown was unarmed and had his hands up (to varying degrees) when Wilson fired the final kill shot(s).
St. Louis County DA McCulloch must recuse himself immediately, else run the risk of the community perceiving that he threw the case to buff up his relations with local law enforcement.
uponit7771
(90,302 posts)... a threat to those around him or himself after he ran away.
Not only that Wilson shot at brown from the back... that also is another reasonable danger issue... my understanding is the officer can't shoot at anyone in their back or from the back unless they're in danger or someone else might be in danger.
Also, the FPD is a bunch of damn liars... they could've gotten blood Browns blood after the fact...
If there was already Browns blood somewhere on Wilsons person or things this would've been the FIRST out of the box to be reported.
This is bs
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Solomon
(12,310 posts)What's your point?
uponit7771
(90,302 posts)...back and yes... that's criminal if Brown was no threat
regards
logosoco
(3,208 posts)At that point I think wilson was letting his emotions control the situation.
And the point where "a bloodied Brown took off running but the officer followed him and fired" that is when it became murder.
And if they did let wilson take the SUV from the scene, I , as a juror would not consider any evidence from it.
damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)It's Wilson's word against everyone else who was there.
avebury
(10,951 posts)that when the police allowed the shooter to leave with his cruiser, they broke the chain of evidence for anything that might have been found on the car. Given the behavior of the police, reasonable doubt could be raised on any evidence that appears to make the victim the guilty party in the incident. If the police feared for the safety of the shooter, they should have put him in a different vehicle to remove him from the scene and left his cruiser there to be processed on site. Once they allowed the shooter to remove the vehicle, they set up reasonable grounds for planting evidence that would protect the shooter.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)avebury
(10,951 posts)Wilson was allowed to leave the scene with his cruiser. As he is the one who would be under investigation to determine if it was a justifiable shooting or a criminal act, in my mind the chain of custody for any evidence later obtained from the cruiser was broken. He had access to the victim and the cruiser and, once he took off with the cruiser, would have had the opportunity to plant evidence. This is a huge hurtle for the defense to get over IMO.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)hate to ask you for a source, but I'd love one in this case.
avebury
(10,951 posts)to leave the site with his cruiser it is pretty clear that the authorities did not bother to process the car at the scene of the shooting.
Had the authorities did a proper investigation they would have either 1) did a crime scene investigation of the car at the scene or 2) had a third party entity/person move the car to a secure site for full examination. Instead, the officer was allowed to leave the scene driving the vehicle.
My evaluation is based upon the report that the officer was allowed to drive himself away from the scene in the cruiser coupled with common sense analysis. Common sense would dictate that you don't allow the suspect free, upsupervised access to part of the "crime scene."
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)that is why I requested a link. Have not seen it, and was curious why there is not stink over it if it is true.
scarystuffyo
(733 posts)There was blood all over the inside.
He didn't get back inside and drive it , he didn't drive anything
He was taken to the hospital
The car was towed , no one drove it with blood on the inside of the door
BronxBoy
(2,286 posts)good for the goose and all that.....
uponit7771
(90,302 posts)...these crap revelations
spanone
(135,795 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)I mean, what did everyone think he would say? Like everyone else, he wants to stay out of jail.
I personally think they'll put him on trial. IMO, the confrontation was over, and the cop was pissed and shot him for no reason. You and I and everyone else would be in jail already for that.