FL, Tonight's CNN voting results after debate Scott/Crist. Scott 23%, Crist 77% will vote for.

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http://www.bing.com/politics/pulse/cnn-fl-debate

[Wabbajack_]

1. I wish a real Democrat was running

Sigh

[RKP5637]

2. I know what you mean! n/t

[mr_liberal]

3. You mean like Elizabeth Warren who was once

a Republican?

[Baitball Blogger]

8. Elizabeth Warren started voting Democratically in 1995.

I doubt that she is part of any professional good ole boy network, which shows no true loyalty to either party.

[mr_liberal]

11. Whether a politician is a man or woman shouldn't matter

what matters is what he or she believes.

Crist has always been a moderate. He could have easily been a Democrat his whole career. Im not sure you can say that about Warren.

[Baitball Blogger]

16. Oh, please.

Let's talk after the election.

[chieftain]

21. Chaingang Charlie was Crist's early nickname

due to his Dickensian approach to prisons and prisoners. I don't know when he became a moderate but it had to be after he endorsed Bomb, Bomb, Bomb 'em McCain. If I still lived in Florida I would vote for Crist but I view him more of an opportunist than a Democrat.

[NCTraveler]

40. Crist has not always been a moderate. That claim is false.

It is sad that people here think that being anti-choice, pro-privatization of schools, lower corporate taxes, etc. are moderate positions. They are not. How in the world can you say he could have been a democrat his whole career? Was he democrat like as he went around absolutely gushing over Palin. You know she is an inspiration to him don't you? You know he currently follows Jeb Bushs education policies as if they were his own? Yes, the Jeb who is campaigning against him. Yet Crist need to privatize schools and get profits into his friends pockets overcomes anything even close to ethics. How in the world can you say he could easily be a democrat his whole career. He has spent his WHOLE career fighting democrats and their policies. That is an absolute fact.

[Wabbajack_]

49. Warren was a Republican 20 years ago

Crist was a Republican 5 minutes ago and is only a Democrat now because the Republicans rejected him in the Senate primary and he just GOTS to be in elected office.

[redstateblues]

14. Would love to have a Democrat like Crist

Here in TN where the Democratic Party is pitiful. I'm encouraged that other southern states are competing. I'd love to have Rs become Ds in the volunteer state.

[spanone]

44. i'm here too. ain't gonna happen. just saw a bredesen/haslam commercial

both advocating i vote yes on amendment 2. which gives the governor singular power in selecting judges.

fuck the democratic party in tennessee. there is none.

[madfloridian]

19. I wish FL Dem leaders were more like Crist in many ways.

Most of them are more Republican than Crist was.

[Zipgun]

23. You nailed it. At least Crist FIGHTS, and fights smart. Also, some of his bad points are not all bad

Yes he is an opportunist, but will he dance with the one that brung him? I think he will. Yes he has been bought, but so has every other career politician, and will be until we get the money out of elections. If you know who backs him, you know were NOT to trust him. I think away from issues that are important to backers, he will want to prove himself a good party democrat. And his feud with the GOP might create some interesting cracks in that party. I'm not sure he is an enemy to every member of the GOP, but I bet he is of the party bosses. He might be able to reach across the isle more than we might expect in ways that the GOP leadership will not like.

All in all, we aren't going back the Florida of Walkin Lawtin Chiles, but maybe we are starting to see the end of the Bush Florida.

And if he can start to teach the Florida Democratic party how to fight, I'm all for him.

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33. Agree with you!!! "And if he can start to teach the Florida Democratic party

how to fight, I'm all for him."

If he wins, at minimal, it will be far far far better than another Scott term.

[hay rick]

22. Lamenting the lack of a "real Democrat" is just an excuse to disengage.

The only perfect candidate, the only one that you will ever agree with 100% is the guy you see in the mirror- but he isn't on the ballot. If you don't fight for the lesser of two evils- also known as the better candidate- you are passively accepting the outcome of the contest waged by those who are engaged. If you hate the choice presented in the general election you need to get really involved in the primaries. Crist is imperfect. Scott is a steaming pile of dung. A very clear choice in our imperfect world and worth fighting for.

[geek tragedy]

30. I'd take him over Andy Cuomo without hesitation. nt

[Warpy]

32. Unfortunately, he wouldn't get elected

Florida is choosing between two Republicans this time, but maybe this will teach them that if they vote for the fake Democrat, the sky won't fall and sinkholes won't open up under them. Most of them.

Scott is not only crooked, he's one mean SOB besides. That's what's likely to sink him. Crist might not be much better, but at least he'll lift your wallet while patting you on the back.

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

36. Same weak complaints about Crist

Of all the politicians who have switched parties, Rick Scott's propaganda machines seems to have been the most impactful on weak-minded Floridians and those who are only viewing the race from out of this state.

Even as a republican, Crist did more for teachers, Medicaid recipients, and state workers than most DEMS in this state did. He embraced President Obama and says that he recognized the historical significance of having an African American Pres.

It's so weird when comments about Crist on DU are the same as the are on FreeRep.

I'd like to know what a real Florida Democrat is at the moment if it's not Crist. I doubt the Crist detractors on this board would know.

[mr_liberal]

4. I didnt watch the whole debate but I saw one mistake by Crist

when he called Scott a liar in a bit of a angry tone. That may get play on the news and it may make Crist look like he lost his cool.

[shraby]

5. What's wrong with calling a spade a spade? Good for him!

[mr_liberal]

6. Yeling "That's a lie" at an opponent just

doesn't look good. It may to you, youre a partisan, but I dont think it does to average voters.

[Historic NY]

13. It worked for that jackass from S.C. Wilson...he became a hero..

to the pukes.

[Qutzupalotl]

24. Or so say the liars.

I think it shows courage to speak one's mind openly, and when well-aimed, shines a bright light on the opponent's actions. Of course, it helps when the person one is addressing has a conviction for fraud.

[FLyellowdog]

7. Well, Scott IS a liar.nt

[notadmblnd]

9. interesting

[MattP]

10. Somebody on CNN tweeted "Rick Scott if you believe in the rule of law why arent you in Jail?"

[Robbins]

12. Well

When Crist was republican he extended Voting hours In early voting and accepted stimulas funds.And as independent worked for
Obama's relection.Some dems didn't do that.Crist as Governor will help Florida and The Dems efforts to win It In 2016.

[Cha]

15. Thank you, Robbins.. Crist is a Real Dem .. I don't care how long his journey took.

[ChiciB1]

25. I've Been Making ONE Point For Some Time Now...

For all the grief that has been heaped on Crist because he switched parties you have to give him credit for being upfront about his association with Obama. He hasn't backed away from it like so many other supposed "real" Democrats. Maybe one can say he has to do it to prove something to "real" Democrats so they'll come out and vote. But living in Florida and given the risk he's taking by doing this, he plunked his cards down and basically said to Scott, show me yours!

I do believe many Democrats here have been acting a lot like our Democratic leaders by saying how much they don't trust him, BUT will hold their nose and vote for him. I actually know people who have told me they won't vote for him because of this. I won't tell you my reply to them, let's just say there have been times I've toned it down.

My bottom line, I just CAN'T bear to think of having Rick Scott living in the Governor's mansion for another 4 years. I can't tell you Crist is going to be a great Governor, but he wasn't a right wing whacko like some today when he was there before. Florida just has to say to Rick... OUT, OUT DAMN SCOTT! Yes, I've used the phrase before, here and elsewhere but I do mean it.

So maybe we, the REAL Democrats are going to have to plunk our cards down for Crist and show the rest of this country that Democrats can beat the Repukes at their own game! Oh, please let it be so.

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34. If Crist wins, it might not be the best step forward, but it will be a step forward. If Scott wins,

it will be like falling off the cliff again. I really don't see how people can vote for Scott unless well connected and on the receiving end for big $$$$$. And, IMO, many Floridians are not on the receiving end of big $$$$$ from Scott. And, Rick Scott is so damn bizarre.

[Cha]

43. Thanks, ChiciB.. and, I'm thinking how much better (exponentially so) Crist would have been as

Senator than Rubio.. but, that was not the path that was meant to happen.

I still get chills from the hateful Jeb being governor in Florida . And, only imagine by reading the hell you all have been through with Rick Scott.

[ChiciB1]

45. AND NOW... Tweety Just Spouting Off Saying How

much better Repukes are perceived when it comes keeping people SAFE! I was almost beginning to actually think Crist was going to pull this off! So, right now Tweety and his guests are talking about how the Repukes just got the best issue handed to them on a platter!

REALLY!! Nothing like reminding people about FEAR and how well Repukes handle this kind of stuff, I'm livid, just stoke the fire Tweety, thanks for NOTHING!

Sorry, kind of off my main topic but I find this despicable, saying there's a 9 point shift in how women are now thinking Repukes would be better off running things! Disgusting, here comes another storm!

[Cha]

48. Tweety's Full of Fucking Shite.. 9/11 A$$hole! CorporateMediaWhore$$$$ All Bullshit goPropaganda.

Next? Hang in there, ChiciB!

Haven't watched corpmedia since 2002.

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17. K&R! n/t

[madfloridian]

27. And he vetoed a GOP bill that would have harmed teachers greatly.

I disagreed with him the times he caved in to the extremists called the tea party, but he has more than made up for that

[Fred Sanders]

18. I know I am biased, but , wow, Christ was as spectacular as Scott was inane. The mansion by the

sea and private jets and his general display of no compassion for anyone but his corporate masters was astonishing.

Kudos to Jake Tapper, not yet gone to the dark side.

If you "liberals" here think it is just the lessor of two evils to vote for Christ, then you saw for yourselves the great evil of Scott, anti-science, anti-healthcare, full fascist and corporate puppet....yeah, vote for the lessor evil, you have to.

[SCVDem]

20. Dish didn't carry CNN

I wonder how many missed the debate because of licensing fees?

[ChiciB1]

26. I Did... Been Trying To Find Out If C-Span Will

run it for others. Thanks Ted Turner, this debate needed to be seen from what I've heard since the debate. I'm sure I will find somewhere to watch it, but how many DISH customers had to miss it. I know DISH says it's negotiating, but I'm calling them tomorrow any way! I'm NOT a happy customer, just had it out with them 2 weeks ago too! I did get a good rate reduction, but I'm going to say something regardless.

It's late, had a rough day and need to get some rest. Let's GOTV!!!!

[madfloridian]

28. Here's some video from the debate.

http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2014/10/21/florida-governors-debate/

Not sure that is all of it, maybe just portions.

[ChiciB1]

37. Than You So Much, We Here At DU Have

counted on you so many times for mounds of information. Hope you're doing well!

[darkangel218]

31. I missed it

Damn Dish

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35. Here's the whole debate in two parts.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/political-pulse/os-scott-crist-slug-it-out-in-final-governors-debate-20141021-post.html

[ChiciB1]

38. Thanks To You Also...

Really, really appreciate this. Still not happy DISH couldn't/didn't carry it!
and a big to you for this.

[RKP5637]

39. Thanks!

[darkangel218]

41. Cool, thanks RKP!

[RKP5637]

42. Yep!

[madfloridian]

29. Here's the transcript.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article3214665.html

[flamingdem]

46. Crist is good on Cuba - he has some guts

Other FL pols lack on this issue.

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47. Definitely, he does! n/t