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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMichael Zehaf-Bibeau Named As Ottawa Shooter. A Canadian, born in 1982.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/10/22/michael-zehaf-bibeau-ottawa-shooting_n_6030546.html
CBS Evening News says it has identified a dead suspect in the shooting of a soldier in Ottawa on Wednesday.
The network tweeted just before 1 p.m. that the shooter was Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, a Canadian who was born in 1982.
Reports indicate he had a long gun, either a rifle or a shotgun.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Two U.S. officials said that U.S. agencies have been advised that the shooter was a Canadian convert to Islam.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)was also said to be a recent convert to Islam.
linuxman
(2,337 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)a friend's mother converted to Catholicism and the kids complain they now can't keep her out of church.
linuxman
(2,337 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)here was not being to keep someone praying so much rather than deciding to wage jihad against his country. Not really the same at all.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)...have taken a Nissan Altima to a strip mall in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, Que., at about 9 a.m. and waited two hours before running down two Canadian Forces members. Warrant Officer Patrice Vincent, 53, died of his injuries. The other victim is expected to survive.
This was a despicable act of violence, Prime Minister Stephen Harper told the House of Commons on Tuesday after paying tribute to Warrant Officer Vincent as a 28-year veteran of distinguished service throughout this country.
Following the attack, Mr. Rouleau called 911 to claim responsibility. A patrol officer who witnessed the events followed Mr. Rouleau, who flipped his car into a ditch. When he emerged from the vehicle with a knife, police shot him dead.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)SoCalMusicLover
(3,194 posts)The religion of peace.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)that our govts support jihadis to overthrow secular regimes, then when those jihadis turn against us they use that to promote more war and taking our freedoms away.
onenote
(42,694 posts)This recent convert/fanatic goes on a killing spree and your reaction is condemn the entire religion. Nice.
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)n/t
SoCalMusicLover
(3,194 posts)Unfortunately it does taint the whole religion. You hardly see people converting to Mormonism, Judaism, Christianity, and then going out to murder people. You have Americans actively converting to Islam and then flying to Syria to fight alongside Isis.
If I'm a bigot for saying that a religion which is supposedly based upon PEACE, ends up having many who believe the exact opposite, then I guess that's what I am.
It's wrong to typecast a whole religion based upon a few bad apples, but it seems like with concern to Islam, there are more than just a few. The solution....don't say your religion is based upon the belief of "peace" when you have many followers who think it is a belief in war and violence instead.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)a whole religion"? What about those followers for whom it is a "religion of peace"? Do they really deserve to be lumped in with fanatics and terrorists?
strawberries
(498 posts)a few bad apples, but those that look the other way are just as bad. I heard that on this board
Igel
(35,300 posts)A couple hundred million Xians, a couple hundred fanatics who dare to carry signs in a tactless manner, and it's the entire religion. Or the goofball who dares to firebomb an abortion clinic.
The do the same thing with Hindus. The occasional riot, and it's the backwardness of the faith.
Then again, there is a bit of a pattern with Xians, and even with Hindus. I'm sure that doesn't happen with Muslims--it's just the oddball Western convert and those always get dealt with as though they were unique, which is entirely appropriate.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Some a larger portion than others, sure, but there's no reason to condemn (nor exonerate) an entire faith based on that.
chrisa
(4,524 posts)It's unfortunate this turd was able to kill someone before being forever wiped from this earth.