Not Florida: High school seniors to be allowed to pose with guns in yearbook photos

[jmowreader]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/school-will-allow-students-to-pose-with-guns-in-yearbook-photos/ar-BBaCFgy

Students at a high school in Nebraska will now be allowed to pose with guns in their senior portraits.

The Broken Bow School Board made the decision to allow guns in school photos this week after a student asked to be photographed with a gun last year but was denied the option, according to local outlet KOLN-TV. The school board voted 6-0 to allow the guns in photos as long as the images are tasteful, the Omaha World-Herald reported.

Broken Bow Public Schools Superintendent Mark Sievering told the Omaha World-Herald that the school was initially afraid that allowing students to pose with guns would promote violence. However, the board decided to allow it because hunting is a big part of the local community.

[BlueJazz]

1. Gee....I don't know...

[GGJohn]

2. Now that's a gun.!!!!

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

84. ANYONE ACTUALLY VIEW THE PHOTOS BEFORE COMMENTING?

FYI - Some schools allow seniors to provide their own photos taken at private studios. These are the types of pictures shown if you click within the article.

They are very typical of high school photos - a little overdone, a little overphotoshopped, but what the teens LOVE. Nice photos for what they are.

I know an award winning photographer who does these photos to support himself, so he can do his other photography on the side, which doesn't pay nearly as much! LOL

It's big business in suburban and rural America.

http://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska/guns-in-senior-portraits-ok-if-done-tastefully-nebraska-school/article_e25a4c6e-593c-11e4-ae63-001a4bcf6878.html?mode=image&photo=1

[bhikkhu]

90. Thanks for posting that

the jumping-to-conclusions here is a little embarrassing. The pictures are nice, and reflect the values of the community. I can say that, living in just such a community. Though I don't hunt myself, I know plenty of good people who do, and its a whole different thing from what a lot of people were thinking.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

91. My brother would have been in a picture like that

if those types of pictures were popular back in the day.

[GGJohn]

92. I was born is rural Loomis, CA,

that's the kind of pictures I would've been in also.
Many people who grew up in the cities don't understand the culture and not understanding it, they ridicule it because they don't know what else to do.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

95. Where I grew up

it meant 3:00 Thanksgiving dinner every year, because the guys were all out bagging their first ducks. And it was a really small turkey, because the next day we had duck gumbo. Never mind that turkey.

[R.Quinn]

97. Thanks

for being a voice of reason in this thread.

[Politicalboi]

3. I hope those 6 assholes

Show up to shield for bullets. Parents should be able to keep their kids home that day. Teachers should be able to stay home too. Let the gun nuts have their day. Aren't those here who support the right to guns happy now? Last week silencing women, this week, bring fear to school. Are you sure you're in the "right" party? Disgusting.

[Jenoch]

42. Huh?

This is not about bringing guns to school. This is abiut submitting a PHOTOGRAPH for the yearbook.

[Oktober]

56. How is this kid a threat?

In any way...

At all...

[Inkfreak]

59. People who support the 2nd amendment silence women??

"Aren't those here who support the right to guns happy now? Last week silencing women, this week, bring fear to school. Are you sure you're in the "right" party?"

[Travis_0004]

104. Reading the article first would be helpful

Nobobody is bringing a gun to school. In most yearbooks seniors can submit their own photos they take outside of school.

[valerief]

4. Teh stoooooopid keeps outdumbing itself.

[hack89]

16. Why?

A kid with an unloaded weapon is a a threat?

[Duckhunter935]

63. another bad hide

for your other post

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

96. The stupid should do a little more investigation sometimes.

nt

[Suburban Warrior]

5. I would hate to be the

yearbook photographer at that school.

[GGJohn]

13. Why?

You really believe that the students will suddenly go on a shooting spree?
They won't be allowed to brandish the weapon, or point it at the camera, and I'll bet the weapons won't even be allowed to be loaded.

[Suburban Warrior]

22. No...

I don't think a student will randomly go on a shooting spree. But I do think there is a great risk of an accidental discharge. You do realize teenagers aren't always the most responsible people.

[GGJohn]

36. Highly doubtful that those firearms will be loaded.

[Skittles]

23. can you think of any really good reason they need their guns in the pics?

go ahead

[GGJohn]

25. Not really, not something I would do,

but it's their choice and that part of Neb. is big on hunting.
Sorry, but I really don't see a big issue with this.

[Skittles]

28. sure it's pathetic but WTF

gun humpers need to showcase

[Jenoch]

53. The student is likely a hunter or a particpant and/or fan of target shooting.

Where does 'gun humper' enter the picture?

[Skittles]

57. absolutely needing to be pictured with their guns

that's where

[Jenoch]

65. Read post number 55.

[Skittles]

128. no

[Oktober]

112. I'm sure you "needed" every photo you ever took right?

All part of a serious and important documentary of your amazing life?

Kids, puppies, hobbies, vacations... How much of that did you need?

That is the most hypocritical thing I have seen in quite a while. Brava...

[Skittles]

127. ? LOL

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

[Oktober]

130. Thought so...

[Skittles]

132. again, LOL

you're a fucking HOOT

[Oktober]

133. It's pretty clear you can't even respond...

Maybe you should whip out another emoticon...

[joeglow3]

34. I wouldn't do it. I don't own a gun and never will

However, a lost of kids in rural Nebraska like to hunt and shoot for sport. I just got done watching the Big Ten Network's documentary on Brook Berringer and was touched about the part with his dad. They lived in rural Kansas and his dad would take home hunting. His dad dies when he was 7 and his best memories were going out with his dad.

Many high school kids get senior pictures doing their hobbies: cars, sports, etc.

[Recursion]

41. I had my bass guitar in mine

Did I need it? No.

[graegoyle]

47. Yes. Yes you did.

Rock on.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

70. For the same reason athletes pose on their uniforms with their gear

[GGJohn]

35. Because they want to?

That part of Neb. is big time hunting tradition, the firearms they'll be posing with will more than likely be hunting rifles, either slung or at port arms or at parade rest position, and unloaded.

When I hunt, I pose with my rifle next to my kill, no big deal, when I attended school, we used to park at school with our hunting rifles in our gun racks in the back windows, or in the trunk of our vehicle, though I realize that times are different now.

[GGJohn]

38. Well, to be fair, I don't drive around with any of my hunting rifles in a gun rack anymore.

Haven't for decades, when I go hunting, my rifle or bow are in a locked case, ammo in a separate case, only removed when I arrive at my hunting grounds, when at home, they're secured in a heavy duty safe along with my other firearms and the ammo is stored in the garage in another safe.

But if these kids want to pose with their firearms for their senior class photo, I don't have a problem with it, their choice, however dumb it may be.

[Sparhawk60]

61. Good Point

"Becausecause I look at dudes like you as insecure, small dick, stunted emotional growth pricks.”
Rufus Dog


Now there is a clear, rational argument that is hard to rebut.


/sarcasm

[NickB79]

67. "I look at dudes like you as insecure, small dick, stunted emotional growth pricks"

[DashOneBravo]

137. Nice one

I've been waiting for that to show up.

[Duckhunter935]

77. "I look at dudes like you as insecure, small dick, stunted emotional growth pricks."

yes you are or you would not have posted it.

[Jenoch]

55. Why does a kid need to have a

football, basketball, trumpet, tree, or anything else in their class photo?

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

87. THE GUN IS NOT AT SCHOOL!

http://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska/guns-in-senior-portraits-ok-if-done-tastefully-nebraska-school/article_e25a4c6e-593c-11e4-ae63-001a4bcf6878.html?mode=image&photo=1

Check out the photos. One includes the guy's hunting dog - a yellow lab.

[Recursion]

40. It's a safe bet they go down to the local Olan Mills for their senior portraits (nt)

[ManiacJoe]

125. The photos are not taken at the school nor by staff nor by students.

I would hate to be the yearbook photographer at that school.

The photos are taken off campus, by pros, and submitted to the school by the student.

Taking a gun to school is illegal under most circumstances.

[bigwillq]

6. It's their yearbook photo

I don't have any issue with what anyone decides to pose with.

[Dr. Strange]

7. What's wrong with you?

Give in to the fear! Terra! Terra!

[bigwillq]

12. Ha.

I think it's kind of silly to pose with a gun but, if someone wants to, that's really none of my business, and I don't have any issue with it.

[Skittles]

24. it's actually more pathetic than silly

[RKP5637]

26. Yep! Idiocracy marches forward. n/t

[hack89]

14. We are supposed to resist irrational fears - except when we are suppose to panic over guns

DU is pretty irrational about guns

[bigwillq]

17. DU is pretty irrational over everything

and everyone that doesn't agree with them!

[BrotherIvan]

21. Irrational

Because the US doesn't have exponentially more gun deaths than any other 1st world country. Yeah, just living in a fantasy world. Gunners--who are so afraid of their fellow humans that they need to carry a deadly weapon 24/7--telling those who don't that they're irrational is the pinnacle of irony.

[laundry_queen]

45. It really is, isn't it? Makes me chuckle every time. nt

[BrotherIvan]

51. "Your dead kids don't trump my rights"

The gunner's motto.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

71. The US has ~12,000 gun homicides annually.

Over 500 of those come from Chicago. That one city in a nation of 300 million can produce nearly 5% of all gun homicides is telling. Add in the fact that Chicago harasses good people while leaving the gangs to run around unchecked is even more telling.

[Travis_0004]

106. This area has a violent crime rate 1/3 the national average

One murder since 2000. Seems like that area is pretty safe to me.

[JanMichael]

9. As long as they are not photographed with a severed head it's ok.

Of doinking a goat.

Ok wtf does a gun have to do with a fucking yearbook headshot - oh! Headshots!...that's it. Fucking micro psychos.

[safeinOhio]

10. This is my weapon

this is my gun
this for shooting
this is for fun

[GGJohn]

27. ...

[petronius]

11. Seems like a perfectly reasonable decision. It sounds like these are the

photos the students submit for themselves--they're not being taken on campus--so if it's allowable for the photo to reflect student hobbies and interest, then hunting and shooting sports certainly should be eligible...

[uppityperson]

15. My first thought was goose, duck, deer hunting seniors. Looking at the size, where it is, it makes

more sense than if it were a city.

Wiki:
Broken Bow is a city in Custer County, Nebraska, United States. The population was 3,559 at the 2010 census. It is the county seat of Custer County.

"Nebraska prohibits guns on school property".

[Laffy Kat]

18. And yet so many high schools have disallowed posing with pets?

Doesn't make sense to me.

[former9thward]

50. So you think one dumb decision should set a precedent?

[Brickbat]

19. Works for me.

[linuxman]

20. Not seeing how this is an issue.

Makes as much sense as posing with a tractor, or a phone book, or a frying pan, but whatever.

Who gives a shit? More importantly, why?

[betsuni]

29. Going out with a bang?

[immoderate]

30. Can I pose with my bong?

--imm

[bluesbassman]

33. Probably in Santa Cruz.

[TBF]

68. That's not wholesome like a gun.

No soup for you.

[gerogie2]

32. I'm sure future spouses and employers..

will thank these people for the fair warning. Nothing says you're a ammosexual like posing with a gun in your senior picture.

[Jenoch]

49. What a stupid, fucking post.

[Hoyt]

58. Actually, he/she makes a good point.

[Jenoch]

66. A kid has a photo of

themself wearing blaze orange holding a rifle. Why would a future employer have a problem with that?

[GGJohn]

89. Actually, he/she doesn't make a good point.

[aikoaiko]

62. True, I could see an obsessed antigunner going through every yearbook of a job candidate...

...trying to ferret out any indication of gun ownership.

[gerogie2]

142. Those pics are going to be posted to instagram and facebook.

If you think high school pics are only going to be in a yearbook your way behind in what today's kids do with all their pics.

[GGJohn]

144. So what if they are?

I've got pictures of me holding my hunting rifle kneeling next to a deer that I killed, hasn't been adverse at all.

These pictures aren't going to hurt these kids one iota as they enter into adulthood.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

72. My husband taught me to shoot. My FIL gave me his wife's pistol after she passed away.

[sarisataka]

39. Kinda strange

all of the panic since
A) they won't be bringing the guns to school and

B) all of the hate and slurs when so many have stated they have no issue with someone having a gun for hunting

[Jenoch]

43. Many high school sports teams pose for

a photo that is used on a poster that is distrubuted throughout the community. The poster includes the schedule of their events. I remember one such poster from a suburban Twin Cities school district. The team was photographed wearing blaze orange and each team member was holding a deer rifle. I do not remember any problems or protsts from the public.

Of course this is happening in Minnesota and not California.

[Hoyt]

44. Hope someone does a study to see where these yahoos are in 10, 20, 30 years.

[GGJohn]

48. Why don't you do that for us, OK?

Why would you have a problem with those seniors posing with their hunting rifles?
The pictures won't even be taken in the school.

[scarystuffyo]

46. Oh my

[SheilaT]

52. How about senior photos just be a picture of the kid?

That would solve a lot.

In 2005 a girl in Kansas was killed by a tiger. Guess what had become popular to pose with for the senior photo?

[Mister Nightowl]

54. Are you SURE this wasn't in Florida?

[Inkfreak]

60. Meh. Less worrying about photos. More on getting them educated. (nt)

[B Calm]

64. Wrong forum.

[NickB79]

69. Many schools have trap shooting teams

For example: http://mnclaytarget.com/

If a student can pose with a basketball because they're on the basketball team, why couldn't a student pose with a shotgun if they're on the trap team?

[99Forever]

73. I've been to Broken Bow.

If you should go there, don't forget to set your watch back a hundred years. Yee haw!

[NCTraveler]

74. If the kid was on some form of marksman team for the school I would say it is ok.

For no other reason should something like this ever be allowed. Students are often allowed to wear something signifying their contribution to an extracurricular activity. No student should simply be allowed to pose with their beloved gun unless it is directly related to a school activity.

[Vinca]

75. These students and their parents aren't the sharpest tacks in the box.

That photo will follow them their entire lives. Any employer not in Dumbfuckistan will think twice. Who wants to hire a gun nut?

[R.Quinn]

85. I can think of a few potential employers

Bass Pro Shop
Cabela's
Mossberg
Remington Arms
Sturm, Ruger and Co.
Smith & Wesson
Sig Sauer
Beretta
Heckler and Koch
Springfield Armory, Inc.
Browning Arms Company
Colt Defense

...but don't let this little list stop your prejudice.

[KamaAina]

113. And Walmart

which, lest we forget, sells more guns than anyone else in the U.S.

[Eleanors38]

122. 70% of Americans support hunting. Nothing to fear,

unless the employer enjoys victimizing boys and girls for engaging in activities the bulk of Americans support.

Not everyone shivers in bed at night, fearing Facebook or the innertubes.

[Vinca]

135. I would view it as a priorities thing.

If a gun is that important to a person, I wouldn't hire them.

[Lurks Often]

136. Nice to see you are in favor of discriminating against people

because they don't believe EXACTLY like you do.

[Vinca]

143. If I hear of any crazed gun nuts looking for work, I'll send them your way.

[Eleanors38]

141. This rings more of culture war.

[KinMd]

139. Employers check year book pictures?Who knew..

bet they have a better chance of getting hired then people with tattoos on their necks

[Fumesucker]

76. And yet if a kid bites a pop-tart into the shape of a gun.. Mandatory suspension!

Could we possibly hit a happy medium with some of this stupidity?

[Feral Child]

78. Pretty much a non-issue.

I just don't see this as important. I don't hunt, I don't like hunting, but it exists and I don't see this as seriously representative of "gun culture".

If they were posing in police "swat" regalia or faux-military outfits, I'd find it silly and pretentious, but the way this is presented doesn't seem at all threatening or neurotic.

[JoePhilly]

79. But they don't want to be on a government ...

... list of gun owners.

[R.Quinn]

86. Posing with a gun

is not proof that you own the gun you posed with.

(On a separate note, gun registration is a clear violation of the 2nd amendment, so no, they would not want to be on that list.)

[LondonReign2]

93. LMAO. Fixed it for you.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Oh, and you can't register gunz either, so there."

[R.Quinn]

94. I get that you are poking fun at me

which I am fine with. In all seriousness though... history shows us that the end-game of registration is confiscation. That is why I take that position.

[Orrex]

80. Even black students?

[Orrex]

81. I wonder if they'd let a teen mom pose while breastfeeding

Assuming she's 18, of course.

[hunter]

100. You went there before I did...

... many people in my own community flipped out over a yearbook page of high school girls with their babies.

[R.Quinn]

82. A lot of posters here are being quite judgemental.

If hunting is a big part of the local culture and history, then it makes sense. Let them pose with guns if they want. Just because some outsiders don't "get it" doesn't mean they know better.

[LondonReign2]

83. So if a kid really likes porn

can he or she pose with a porn magazine? Just the cover, no actually nudity you understand.

[Skittles]

129. that's gun humper logic

anything they like! Even TREES!!! or PUPPIES!!! idiots

[G_j]

88. dude! what about the kid who wants a photo with his bong? nt

[Lurks Often]

98. Lots of hate in this thread

and it seems all of it is coming from people who have an irrational, emotion driven, fear of an inanimate object.

"Specific phobias. A specific phobia involves an irrational, persistent fear of a specific object or situation that's out of proportion to the actual risk. This includes a fear of situations (such as airplanes or enclosed spaces); nature (such as thunderstorms or heights); animals or insects (such as dogs or spiders); blood, injection or injury (such as knives or medical procedures); or other phobias (such as loud noises or clowns). There are many other types of specific phobias. It's not unusual to experience phobias about more than one object or situation"

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/phobias/basics/symptoms/con-20023478

[Orrex]

101. Hate? Nah. Sounds like what we have here is a

[Lurks Often]

102. FYI, whatever you inserted did not come through

[hunter]

107. Your network nanny didn't want you to see it.

[Lurks Often]

124. Wander through this thread and see which side is doing the most name calling

I don't hate gun control extremists, I find the bulk of them laughable, although there are few like Bloomberg that I find contemptuous because of his hypocrisy. HE is entitled to armed guards protecting him where ever he goes, including on vacation outside of the US, but the average person who can't afford armed guards isn't allowed to protect themselves.

[hunter]

105. I have a rational hatred of guns, thanks.

Too much experience with blood and death and idiots who shouldn't be trusted with cars, let alone guns.

I'd include a few law enforcement officers in that generalization. Too many cops are just as dangerous as an idiot teenage gangster with a gun.

People with gun fetishes and people who would resort to guns as their primary means of "protection" probably shouldn't have them.

Everyone who points a gun at someone is an idiot. Resorting to the use of a gun to get out of a jam means everyone fucked up. Actually pulling the trigger makes everything is FUBAR.

[Lurks Often]

109. Your entitled to your opinion

My experiences over the past 30+ years, including competitive shooting, tell me something different.

[hunter]

115. I know "competitive" shooters who lost their taste for the sport...

... after they were sent to Korea and Vietnam to shoot people.

The U.S.A. is never going to be World War II Finland. Modern warfare doesn't work like that. The authorities frown on people who build improvised explosive devices as a recreational activity.

The sport of competitive shooting can be accomplished with air guns and non-lead ammunition.

But it's not about that, is it?

[Lurks Often]

121. We're not going to agree

and I find the idea that all "competitive shooting can be accomplished with air guns and non-lead ammunition" to be absurd.

Finland lost in WWII, both times and while I don't expect to see a country wide armed insurrection here, "modern warfare" isn't always successful in suppressing insurrections. One just has to look at Syria, Afghanistan or Libya, among others, where the regular army isn't having a lot of success.

Besides, the idea that military is automatically going to assume the side of whoever in government is charge is equally absurd, no one knows for sure what the military might do, it might well fragment like it did during the Civil War. Regardless any thoughts on what side the military would take is idle speculation.

[Throd]

103. Why don't these stupid, ignorant in-bred small-dicked redneck fuckwads vote for Democrats?

Hmmmm...maybe we aren't judgmental and condescending enough.

[branford]

108. Heh. However, some will never appreciate such simple wisdom. nt

[hunter]

110. Guns and Freedumb.

Yes, I do mock them.

I'm fine with hunting pigs and collared doves and other invasive species for dinner. I'm fine with hunting deer and turkeys and other game species within lawful limits. It's really no different than buying meat in a grocery store. I'm not a radical vegan.

And people who live in a rural area and sometimes has to deal with rabid skunks, severely injured animals, and such. I've no problem with that.

But gun fetishes, trophy hunting, and war are disgusting. These deadly dildos have no place in a high school senior yearbook portrait.

Liberal Democrat Christians are frequently smeared by the antics of fundamentalist Christians here on DU. Even as a liberal Christian I understand the anger. The fundamentalists of any religion are freaks, and they are often dangerous.

The fundamentalist gun cultists are no different. Why do "responsible" gun owners get upset by the anger? The U.S.A. has a huge problem with gun violence and many of us have first hand experience with it.

[Throd]

111. Yes, mock their "Freedumb" and wonder why they don't vote like you wish they would.

"Fundamentalist gun cultists" are such an insignificant minority of gun owners.

To hang such a cartoon around the necks of all gun-owners (which many here do) is counterproductive. I think the people who engage in such hyperbole don't care, they just have a convenient bogeyman to get all worked up about.

[hunter]

116. It's not a bogeyman, not in my community.

Idiot gangster kids and cops are trigger happy here.

I can take a walking tour from my house and point out places where people have been shot. Some of the spots have little memorials built and maintained by friends and families.

I don't feel personally smeared by attacks on the crazy, homophobic, creationist wing-nuts of Christianity, not even attacks on "conservative" or pedophile Catholics. Like I said, I understand the anger. I don't jump to the defense of my church whenever somebody criticizes the rottenness within it.

Gun owners ought to evaluate their own positions. Are they merely gun owners who use guns as tools and maybe have favorites just as I have favorite tools like saws or software, or are they participants and supporters of the generally racist, right wing gun cults?

[Throd]

119. I lived in a similar community.

On January 22, 2000 I witnessed a 16 year old boy get shot to death on the corner of 9th Street and Daisy Avenue in broad daylight.

I am more concerned with why life is considered so cheap in my old neighborhood and similar communities.

[Adrahil]

131. I see what you did there!

And you're right. My brother in law just doesn't vote because he can't stomach the GOP, but won't vote for a "gun grabber"

[KamaAina]

114. "as long as the images are tasteful"

[Orrex]

117. The guns must be shown fully clothed

[KamaAina]

118. DUzy!

[mopinko]

120. college admissions professionals please take note.

what college admissions officer IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would take a kid who wanted to be remembered forever hugging his gun.
and if they do, and one goes nuts, they should lose their job.

[Eleanors38]

123. You really believe this, or do you desire it?

Such desperation, such hyperbole. She's a kid who likes hunting, and you cannot be still with this?

[muntrv]

126. Is this to compensate for the fact that a grasshopper urinates through a bigger organ

than those posing with guns do?

[Seeking Serenity]

134. You mean like her?

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[DashOneBravo]

138. And

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"Because I look at dudes like you as insecure, small dick, stunted emotional growth pricks.” Rufus Dog

Yet you're the one that won't back your comment. That's why you self deleted it. You should take a look at Hoyt. We don't agree on much, but he stands by what he said.