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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/10/21/outrageous-right-wing-supreme-court-justice-scalia-says-religious-beliefs-arent-reasonable/Religious beliefs arent reasonable.
The man who filed suit, Gregory Houston Holt, AKA Abdul Maalak Muhammad was asking that the court overturn a ban on beards in Arkansas state prisons. As a Muslim man, Holt says that the ban substantially burdens his ability to exercise his religious beliefs, something the Supreme Court just ruled the government cannot do, in the Hobby Lobby case.
In a total departure from his earlier stance when hearing the Hobby Lobby case, hypocritical right wing Supreme Court Justice Scalia burdened the plaintiff with proving the sincerity of his religious beliefs.
And if that doesnt piss you off enough, during oral arguments Scalia actually said:
Religious beliefs arent reasonable.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,587 posts)Then they get to be the basis of Supreme Court decisions.
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)Nails it!
Myrina
(12,296 posts)SMFH, Scalia.
The Magistrate
(95,241 posts)Particularly since the 'religious beliefs' he said earlier had to be taken as they came were in fact beliefs that were demonstrably false to fact on questions of biological processes....
bluesbassman
(19,360 posts)One of the worst human beings drawing air at this point in time.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)are more apparent every day.
RKP5637
(67,086 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)A fire-breathing creature who destroys all in its path.
one for each opinion
Gore1FL
(21,098 posts)I wish Scalia had that view consistently.
Baitball Blogger
(46,682 posts)and the Hobby Lobby case?
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)no matter how outrageous contradictory his asinine "judgments" are, he can't be touched.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)this case came up to the SCOTUS at all after the Hobby Lobby decision.
On the other hand it gave Scalia the opportunity to approve of double speak.
Initech
(100,038 posts)notrightatall
(410 posts)notrightatall
(410 posts)any ideas what I should do with it?? I also own pissonthe.gop
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)notrightatall
(410 posts)Buy some at join.gop
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)but I do find it funny how people find Jesus (or Allah, in this case) AFTER they make it to prison.
UtahJosh
(131 posts)It's not so much people 'finding' religion, more like the other way around. Religious charlatans have historically preyed upon the downtrodden and hopeless - what better fishing grounds than a prison?
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)welcome to DU
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)"If the prisoner wanted to have a full beard, would the law require that?" asked Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
"That would be a different case," Laycock replied.
"Isn't the religious requirement here that your client grow a full beard?" interjected Justice Antonin Scalia.
"It is," conceded Laycock, but the prisoner offered the half-inch length as a "reasonable compromise."
"Religious beliefs aren't reasonable," Scalia thundered back, "Religious beliefs are categorical!"
Chief Justice John Roberts was also skeptical about the half-inch compromise, for a different reason. It resolves little, he said, since the next case would involve a full beard.
Scalia agreed, adding, "I don't want to do these cases half-inch by half-inch."
http://www.npr.org/2014/10/07/354371719/justices-skeptical-of-beard-rule-in-inmate-religious-rights-case
Skinner
(63,645 posts)I think some religious beliefs are more reasonable than others. But pretty much the defining characteristic of religious beliefs is that they are based on faith.
To be clear, I'm not trying to mock anyone's religious belief or call anyone stupid or unreasonable. But if you claim to believe things that cannot be objectively demonstrated to be true, you are not dealing in reason.
I don't think it makes a religious person a hypocrite to state plainly that religion is not based on reason.