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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 02:35 PM Oct 2014

Outrageous: Right Wing Supreme Court Justice Scalia Says ‘Religious Beliefs Aren’t Reasonable’

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/10/21/outrageous-right-wing-supreme-court-justice-scalia-says-religious-beliefs-arent-reasonable/

On October 7th, the Supreme Court of the United States heard a case which was filed against the Arkansas Department of Corrections, by a Muslim inmate. In an unbelievable display of hypocrisy, during oral arguments, Justice Antonin Scalia told the petitioner:

“Religious beliefs aren’t reasonable.”

The man who filed suit, Gregory Houston Holt, AKA Abdul Maalak Muhammad was asking that the court overturn a ban on beards in Arkansas state prisons. As a Muslim man, Holt says that the ban substantially burdens his ability to exercise his religious beliefs, something the Supreme Court just ruled the government cannot do, in the Hobby Lobby case.

In a total departure from his earlier stance when hearing the Hobby Lobby case, hypocritical right wing Supreme Court Justice Scalia burdened the plaintiff with proving the ‘sincerity’ of his religious beliefs.

And if that doesn’t piss you off enough, during oral arguments Scalia actually said:

“Religious beliefs aren’t reasonable.”


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Outrageous: Right Wing Supreme Court Justice Scalia Says ‘Religious Beliefs Aren’t Reasonable’ (Original Post) KamaAina Oct 2014 OP
Unless they're his religious beliefs, of course. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #1
^^^^ THIS RIGHT HERE! ^^^^ liberal N proud Oct 2014 #6
+ A brazillion Myrina Oct 2014 #9
One More Nail In The Coffin Of This Wretch's Long Sold-Off Integrity, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2014 #2
Hypocrisy, thy name is Scalia. bluesbassman Oct 2014 #3
His dementia and final break from reality hifiguy Oct 2014 #4
Alzheimers testing should be mandatory. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2014 #5
Scalia the dragon shenmue Oct 2014 #7
two headed knownow Oct 2014 #18
While I agree that “Religious beliefs aren’t reasonable,” Gore1FL Oct 2014 #8
Can't someone counter Scalia's opinion based on the breach from stare decisis Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #10
Scalia is laughing his faat ass off because he knows LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #11
It seems weird that sadoldgirl Oct 2014 #12
It's way past time to impeach his ass. And let's get Thomas out of there, too. Initech Oct 2014 #13
Maybe there is an amendment that could get us some relief. notrightatall Oct 2014 #17
I own scalialaw.gop notrightatall Oct 2014 #14
There's a .gop top-level domain?! KamaAina Oct 2014 #15
yup. notrightatall Oct 2014 #16
Scalia is an ass... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2014 #19
It makes perfect sense when you think about it UtahJosh Oct 2014 #20
True, and it looks good for the parole board awoke_in_2003 Oct 2014 #23
Here is the full exchange: Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #21
Feeling a little embarrassed that I find myself in agreement with Scalia. Skinner Oct 2014 #22
Well they're not. It's his hypocrisy that's laughable. RedCappedBandit Oct 2014 #24

The Magistrate

(95,241 posts)
2. One More Nail In The Coffin Of This Wretch's Long Sold-Off Integrity, Sir
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 02:41 PM
Oct 2014

Particularly since the 'religious beliefs' he said earlier had to be taken as they came were in fact beliefs that were demonstrably false to fact on questions of biological processes....

Gore1FL

(21,098 posts)
8. While I agree that “Religious beliefs aren’t reasonable,”
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 03:23 PM
Oct 2014

I wish Scalia had that view consistently.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
11. Scalia is laughing his faat ass off because he knows
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 03:27 PM
Oct 2014

no matter how outrageous contradictory his asinine "judgments" are, he can't be touched.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
12. It seems weird that
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 03:31 PM
Oct 2014

this case came up to the SCOTUS at all after the Hobby Lobby decision.

On the other hand it gave Scalia the opportunity to approve of double speak.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
19. Scalia is an ass...
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:32 PM
Oct 2014

but I do find it funny how people find Jesus (or Allah, in this case) AFTER they make it to prison.

UtahJosh

(131 posts)
20. It makes perfect sense when you think about it
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:50 PM
Oct 2014

It's not so much people 'finding' religion, more like the other way around. Religious charlatans have historically preyed upon the downtrodden and hopeless - what better fishing grounds than a prison?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
21. Here is the full exchange:
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 11:27 PM
Oct 2014
But the justices wrestled with just how far they might have to go.

"If the prisoner wanted to have a full beard, would the law require that?" asked Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

"That would be a different case," Laycock replied.

"Isn't the religious requirement here that your client grow a full beard?" interjected Justice Antonin Scalia.

"It is," conceded Laycock, but the prisoner offered the half-inch length as a "reasonable compromise."

"Religious beliefs aren't reasonable," Scalia thundered back, "Religious beliefs are categorical!"

Chief Justice John Roberts was also skeptical about the half-inch compromise, for a different reason. It resolves little, he said, since the next case would involve a full beard.

Scalia agreed, adding, "I don't want to do these cases half-inch by half-inch."

http://www.npr.org/2014/10/07/354371719/justices-skeptical-of-beard-rule-in-inmate-religious-rights-case

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
22. Feeling a little embarrassed that I find myself in agreement with Scalia.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 08:57 AM
Oct 2014

I think some religious beliefs are more reasonable than others. But pretty much the defining characteristic of religious beliefs is that they are based on faith.

To be clear, I'm not trying to mock anyone's religious belief or call anyone stupid or unreasonable. But if you claim to believe things that cannot be objectively demonstrated to be true, you are not dealing in reason.

I don't think it makes a religious person a hypocrite to state plainly that religion is not based on reason.

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