ENENews: Sailor on Fukushima Impact on Pacific: “It’s dead for thousands of miles there was nothing"

[zappaman]

Sailor on Fukushima Impact on Pacific: “It’s dead… for thousands of miles there was nothing” between US & Japan — “Like sailing in a dead sea… everything’s all gone” — “Just talking about it makes me feel like I want to cry” — “No birds, no fish, no sharks, no dolphins, no turtles, nothing”

Excerpts from newly uncovered interview with yachtsman Ivan Macfadyen:
http://enenews.com/sailor-fukushima-impact-dead-thousands-miles-pacific-ocean-between-japan-talking-about-makes-feel-like-cry-birds-fish-sharks-dolphins-turtles-theyre-all-gone-audio


Bet you don't see this story in the lame stream media!

[hobbit709]

1. Because it's ENENews for starters.

[zappaman]

3. Scary stuff, right?

[hobbit709]

6. Total BS stuff to be more exact.

[RobertEarl]

15. Yours is just trash talk, hobbit

I am surprised at you, hobbit, you usually have such educated remarks.

So the guy travels the oceans and tells what he has seen. He claims to not be an environmentalist, but he knows the ocean, intimately.

What he saw his last trip makes him sick, because where once he saw abundant life in the air and in the water, all he sees now is air and water and greatly reduced amounts of sea life.

We know they are finding radioactive heavy metals in the ocean and the scientists claim those metals are from Fukushima.

Here's what wiki has to say about one of the heavy metals found in the Pacific:
Cesium-137 in the environment is anthropogenic (human-made). Unlike most other radioisotopes, caesium-137 is not produced from the same element's nonradioactive isotopes but as a byproduct of the nuclear fission of much heavier elements, meaning that until the building of the first artificial nuclear reactor, the Chicago Pile-1, in late 1942, it had not occurred on Earth in significant amounts for approximately 1.7 billion years.

So what we have now in the ocean is a radioactive metal that man made and released in an unprecedented amount directly from the blown up reactors at Fukushima.

Know one knows what will happen, but the report from a person who has traveled the ocean many times states: the ocean, once full of life is now almost devoid of life.

Maybe, just maybe, instead of trash talking, you can actually say something that makes you appear educated about this matter of Fukushima spilling poisonous waste into the ocean?

[brush]

29. Good response, RobertEarl, to what seems a flippant and thoughtless post

Your last phase is telling and horrifying — "about this matter of Fukushima spilling poisonous waste into the ocean" — because that radioactive water is still leaking out of Fukushima.

The Japanese government and apparently no one in the MSM wants to talk about it because it's so scary as they haven't figured out a way to fix it.

[RobertEarl]

40. Thanks, brush

It is scary. The only way to keep something like this from happening again is to shut down all the nuke plants and secure the waste as best we can.

Here's a bit of info about the cesium that is polluting the Pacific:

Long-lived radionuclides such as Cesium-137 are something new to us as a species. They did not exist on Earth in any appreciable quantities during the entire evolution of complex life. Although they are invisible to our senses they are millions of times more poisonous than most of the
common poisons we are familiar with. They cause cancer, leukemia, genetic mutations, birth defects, malformations, and abortions at concentrations almost below human recognition and comprehension. They are lethal at the atomic or molecular level.

They emit radiation, invisible forms of matter and energy that we might compare to fire, because radiation burns and destroys human tissue. But unlike the fire of fossil fuels, the nuclear fire that issues forth from radioactive elements cannot be extinguished. It is not a fire that can be scattered or suffocated because it burns at the atomic level—it comes from the disintegration of single atoms

[snooper2]

38. what do you do for a living again?

[RobertEarl]

56. Paid anti-nuclear shill?

I wish.

They should pay me. I'm good at it. You should donate to the cause?

[jberryhill]

2. How many birds are normally over the open ocean?

[zappaman]

4. Birds fly in the air and maybe you did not know that there is air over oceans?

Birds get their power from the sun and there is more sun over the ocean then anywhere on earth.
More than happy to teach you about science...

[jberryhill]

5. Um, thanks

That explains why I don't see birds in the sky on cloudy nights.

I can never figure out why they don't spray the chemtrails at night either.

[zappaman]

7. Easy.

Because the chemicals are activated by the sun.
Science, dude.

Solar power is a wonderful thing.
Sorry to see you can't give up the love for nuclear power.

[jberryhill]

14. The paid denier shill apologists can't refute this

Can't be done.

[RobertEarl]

17. Many birds used to be found over the open ocean

They are called Pelagic species.

Mutton birds are one.

[NCTraveler]

24. "used to be"? nt.

[RobertEarl]

46. Well, yeah, used to be a lot more birds, everywhere

see the Audubon.org website

Bird populations have been crashing. Around the world; crashing.

[NCTraveler]

48. Many are declining. The main reason is actually mentioned in the article in the op.

"Commercial fishing practices are considered the greatest threat to the survival of many albatross species."

From the Audubon Society.

[RobertEarl]

50. We all have our theories

The overfishing theory does not account for the decline in species like the Bobolink, or Loggerhead shrike, etc.

[alarimer]

31. Depends on the species

There are pelagic species (albatross, frigatebirds) but most are fairly coastal, like gulls. But here's more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seabird

[hootinholler]

32. In my experience, many.

Mostly albatross when more than a few hundred miles from some sort of land, but from my time at sea, many birds.

They also tend to follow boats and ships, the wake attracts baitfish which attracts birds.

[NickB79]

8. Ivan Macfadyen has clearly stated WHY it's dead (and it's not due to Fukushima)

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/oct/21/yachtsman-describes-horror-at-dead-rubbish-strewn-pacific-ocean

“We saw a boat come towards us and we thought they might be pirates, but they had bags and bags of fish,” he said. “We said ‘there’s only two of us, we can’t do anything with all that’ and they said 'don’t worry, just throw it over the side'.

“There was around 100 large fish there. But it was valueless for them because they were after tuna and nothing else. They just trawled the whole ocean and everything other than tuna was bycatch.”

For the majority of the voyage to Japan, MacFadyen had to ensure that his yacht wasn’t holed by clumps of rubbish he said were “as large as a house”.

“There were fenders from ships, balls of net and telegraph poles with barnacles on them that were never going to sink,” he said. “There was nothing like that 10 years ago. I couldn’t believe it.

Trash and overfishing. Once again, ENENews muckraking at it's finest. And some people can't understand why ENENews is considered a junk site here on DU.

[zappaman]

9. Yes, attack the messenger.

ENENews is a great site that many responsible, scientific, informed DUers as well as society in general, get their news from.
Respect.

[hobbit709]

10. ENENews is a great site that many responsible, scientific, informed DUers...

My response to this is


This is right up there with the melting starfish.

[zappaman]

11. If you say so.

Learn a little.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5703737

And I'm sorry you find the death of animals funny.

[hobbit709]

12. I find people that believe in the credibility of ENENews funny.

And citing the starfish melting poster is just as funny.

[zappaman]

13. Wow do you explain this then?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/crabzilla-strikes-again---whistable-4483945




Hint: It's called radiation.

[NickB79]

20. Crabzilla is no match for the Loch Ness Monster

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/loch-ness-monster-sighting-debunked-3443716

[hobbit709]

22. Here's your crabzilla

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2792345/crabzilla-verdict-leading-marine-biologist-rules-picture-giant-grab-lurking-shallow-waters-whitstable-hoax.html

[RobertEarl]

16. On Enenews these days

Is a trash talker called ManBearPig, and the other people there are making bacon out of the nuke-twit. It really is quite amusing to see them slice and dice that idiot trash talker. Thankfully, on DU there is some moderation or we'd see all kinds of Enenews type bacon being made here, as well.

Meanwhile, since Enenews is just an aggregator of news articles, much as DU is, trash talking of Enenews is just so uneducated as to be worthless.

Maybe, hobbit, you have posted over there and the reception you received gave you a bad taste, like eating some bad bacon or something?

[NickB79]

19. "Enenews is just an aggregator of news articles"

Yet they somehow COMPLETELY DISTORTED the interview Mr. Macfayden has given about his trip through the Pacific Ocean, which has been published by numerous news sites, to imply he was tying the lack of sea life with Fukushima, when he said NO SUCH THING. And no other reputable news sites have done so, only ENENews.

How....curious.

[RobertEarl]

41. You must not have read the link?

Because one can clearly see that ENEnews also posted a rebuttal.

The rebuttal is linked to some skeptoid(sp) site, and has a few lines from that site right underneath the news article. I read that other site, btw.

So your shouting that it ""completely distorted"" the interview is the only complete distortion. Take a bow. You old projector, you.

[FBaggins]

44. Why does it matter that they posted a rebuttal?

Their title was "Sailor talks Fukushima’s Impact on Pacific"

That wasn't in the article... they made it up.

That's entirely different from what a news aggregator does. Instead... it's what a dishonest propagandist does (Very possibly one with ties to big oil)

[RobertEarl]

47. Anyone else find it odd?

Here on DU, we have people getting their knickers in a twist over a headline on a web site about Fukushima, all the while ignoring the real villains in the pollution of the Pacific.

It just strikes me as kind of dumb to be attacking the messenger and not the mess maker. Of course, I am anti Nuclear Dem.

[NickB79]

54. Self-delete

I have better things to do right now than this.....

[RobertEarl]

55. No I wouldn't

I'd calmly tell you you made a mistake, as usual.

So what do you think of the Pacific being polluted with cesium137 from Fukushima? Are you ever going to complain about the massive unprecedented pollution of the Pacific ocean because of that Fukushima nuclear plant where 3 reactors melted down and the water used to cool them is flowing into the Pacific?

Do you get it that Enenews is not the problem?
***************

I saved your self delete if you want it back. Why did you delete it?

[hobbit709]

21. I don't waste my time trying to teach pigs to sing.

I don't bother with ENENews any more than I bother with Free Republic or even Discussionist.

[Orrex]

28. Pigs at the Fukushima site have developed the ability to sing.

True fact.

[zappaman]

37. If that is true, I will let ENENews know.

They need to get this out!

[snooper2]

39. ManBearPig is very real and one of the greatest threats to mankind!

It is half man, half bear, and half pig-

You better respect it or it will fuck you up!

[FBaggins]

42. Nobody finds the death of animals funny

OTOH, a bunch of nuts on enenews believing that life for thousands of miles throughout the Pacific has just died off due to radiation from Fukushima?


... that is hilarious.

As if all the marine biologists would just miss this and a lone sailor is credible.

[zappaman]

43. I'll take the word of a lone sailor over some so called "marine biologists" any day.

[FBaggins]

45. Chuckle

That's about the size of it.

Which this crowd... you qualify as an "expert" by saying what they want to hear (or something that they think says what they want to hear). It doesn't matter what your actual expertise (if any) is.

[Hestia]

51. Last year, there was an article/opinion piece about a sailor recreating a voyage with

his friend. It was between Australia & Fiji (I believe). He said the same thing - usually you see some type of aquatic life along with birds. In the article, the sailor said that there was nothing for 100 of miles (or however long that translates into knots). He said it was very eerie to be the loan boat out there amongst all the Fukushima debris.

No, I do not have a link

[RobertEarl]

52. That's just as sad as can be

What have we done to the Pacific?

Along the west coast of N. America wildlife is diminishing. Now these reports from the deep blue sea are also quite disconcerting.

[NickB79]

18. I'm QUOTING the messenger, Mr. Macfayden himself

I gave you direct quotes from the author of the piece ENENews was writing about, that contradict what ENENews says he said, and you then dismiss what he said?

About HIS OWN INTERIVEW?!?!



Whereas ENENews DELIBERATELY MISQUOTES HIM and implies Fukushima had something to do with the wasteland of an ocean he saw, when he said no such thing.

ENENews clearly isn't the messenger here. What they are doing is borderline lying to get site traffic and push an agenda.

[magical thyme]

23. did you read your post? from the link...

"People connected the dots and linked the dead, garbage-filled ocean that Macfadyen encountered on his trip to Fukushima and the piece has been used as part of the exaggerated story since then. But the link between the two doesn’t appear to exist… The story is also not at all about the nuclear plant, but the damage done from overfishing and plastic pollution. It doesn’t even mention Fukushima by name."

[Orrex]

25. One worker was exposed to gamma rays and subsequently went on a rampage.

It was in all the respectable news outlets.

[FSogol]

27. General "Thunderbolt" Ross is that you?

[SidDithers]

33. Don't make him angry...

you wouldn't like him when he's angry.

Sid

[L0oniX]

34. Hulk smash!

[yuiyoshida]

49. So...that's what happened in San Francisco...

[Turbineguy]

26. I crossed the Pacific

from the US West Coast to Japan from 1975 to 2000 around 150 times and rarely, if ever, would you see anything. If you were far enough to the south there were a few porpoises.

[Orrex]

30. So you wandered without porpoise?

We've all been there, buddy.

[jberryhill]

36. Actually if you feed birds to the porpoises, they live a long time

There was one guy I know who had a pair of them. He bought some lions to guard the pool where he kept them.

One day at feeding time, the lions had fallen asleep, so instead of getting the lions back to their pen, he quietly tip-toed across the yard in order to feed some seagulls to the porpoises.

He was caught and sentenced to ten years for......
































transporting gulls across staid lions for immortal porpoises.

[miyazaki]

35. A fellow named Kenichi Horie solo sailed across the Pacific over fifty years ago,

the first to do so. From what I remember in reading his book "Kodoku", he had no passport and about five American dollars, and was promptly taken into custody when arriving in San Francisco from Japan. The entire trip took about three months and he hardly saw shit out there for the duration.

[RobertEarl]

53. This is awful

Thank you for posting this.

It has a lot of people reading it, so they can become aware of the magnitude of the damage.