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An unsuspecting man with Ebola roaming NYC (Original Post) Renew Deal Oct 2014 OP
Fortunately, the only real consequence to this is likely to be Crunchy Frog Oct 2014 #1
How do you think it will end? bigwillq Oct 2014 #2
Ebola eventually transfers to the animals Renew Deal Oct 2014 #8
And the Oscar goes to... bigwillq Oct 2014 #10
Thank you. Renew Deal Oct 2014 #14
Which one? bigwillq Oct 2014 #16
He is quite the Terminator flamingdem Oct 2014 #30
bwah! bigwillq Oct 2014 #31
6-4-2-2 to 14 Yavin4 Oct 2014 #58
damn I should have made popcorn before I read that Heather MC Oct 2014 #17
...until a blue hybrid being... TeeYiYi Oct 2014 #26
I hope you'll write the sequel nt LiberalElite Oct 2014 #38
Dude...you are teh awesome. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #56
Yay! nt ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #57
Jeff Goldblum, Bruce Willis team up with The Rock and Colin Farrell to take out Nicholas Cage uppityperson Oct 2014 #32
He should have been suspecting. LisaL Oct 2014 #3
This (nt) bigwillq Oct 2014 #5
yes Liberal_in_LA Oct 2014 #6
Does he think he got it from watching news clips on TV? TheCowsCameHome Oct 2014 #9
From what I've heard, he followed protocol so he most ecstatic Oct 2014 #35
Gee....I thought you couldn't catch it from felllow passengers. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #50
probably why he isolated himself, called authorities detailing sx and travel when symptoms started uppityperson Oct 2014 #54
Unsuspecting man? Really? He treated Ebola patients in Guinea, and came home on the 14th. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #4
Exactly. NO WAY he gets to plead ignorance. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #45
But... But... millions of people die in bicycle accidents every year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #7
He lives 30 or so blocks from me... stevenleser Oct 2014 #11
Hopefully you didn't go bowling yesterday? LisaL Oct 2014 #12
Or take the subway, or a taxi, or go to a laundramat. Renew Deal Oct 2014 #13
I heard a report that he was a jogger and would go on 3 mile jogs around the hood. stevenleser Oct 2014 #27
None while symptomatic or contagious. morningfog Oct 2014 #42
Quick Stop Breathing sharp_stick Oct 2014 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #18
It was a joke sharp_stick Oct 2014 #19
Fair 'nuff. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #22
He took the A, 1 and flamingdem Oct 2014 #28
Fortunately for me I don't usually take those trains, although I have twice taken stevenleser Oct 2014 #33
Just does not seem like he was really flamingdem Oct 2014 #34
He went bowling the evening before he got symptoms. LisaL Oct 2014 #40
He limited his contacts flamingdem Oct 2014 #44
How did he limit his contacts? LisaL Oct 2014 #49
This was said flamingdem Oct 2014 #60
fer chrissakes DustyJoe Oct 2014 #39
Stop overreacting Dwayne Hicks Oct 2014 #20
Um, when we get to 10,000 cases a week in W. Africa and 1.4 million infected by January, ecstatic Oct 2014 #36
"Just relax and go on about your life." Crunchy Frog Oct 2014 #37
Anyone sick enough to be contagious Warpy Oct 2014 #21
That line is getting old scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #24
Then it's time to learn it. Warpy Oct 2014 #25
The reason they are tracking down his where abouts is because they know he was contagious scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #29
Then under your theory someone else will get ebola, we will wait-and-see! Logical Oct 2014 #47
It's not a theory scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #51
Of course they are going to notify them. Just like everyone on the plane with the nurse. Logical Oct 2014 #53
I think the problem is that they can not guarantee that he wasn't contagious. LisaL Oct 2014 #55
He's was contagious scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #63
It was not a high fever. 100.3. nt Logical Oct 2014 #66
I don't think you really understand this scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #62
I do understand it. And maybe you are confused why monitoring is good enough for most contacts!!! nt Logical Oct 2014 #65
Someone else MAY get Ebola. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #52
And yet no one has shown one case to the contrary. morningfog Oct 2014 #43
I knew this was going to happen scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #23
You really don't understand this do you? Monitoring vs. quarantine? Nt Logical Oct 2014 #48
I agree. darkangel218 Oct 2014 #64
So can the children from Rwanda go back to school now Politicalboi Oct 2014 #41
Oh for the love of christ. Put the movie down and read a book. Or at least a decent news article. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #46
"feeling sick, he isolated himself and called the hospital"... page 2 uh.. uh.. movie ends. nt dionysus Oct 2014 #61
sigh Marrah_G Oct 2014 #59
Y2K would have made a great movie too. Full of fiction, fear and frenzy. LanternWaste Oct 2014 #67

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
1. Fortunately, the only real consequence to this is likely to be
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:29 PM
Oct 2014

A few dozen people having to put their lives on hold for the next three weeks, and some further manifestations of mass hysteria.

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
8. Ebola eventually transfers to the animals
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:40 PM
Oct 2014

Last edited Fri Oct 24, 2014, 12:32 AM - Edit history (1)

But instead of them getting weaker, they get stronger and continue to grow. Eventually humans become partially immune, but the immunity vaccine turns people into blue hybrid beings. The uninfected human race has to fight for survival in this Godzilla, Jurrasic Park, Avatar, I am Legend world. The hero dies saving the girl. Just as the humans finish off the last hybrid beast, the "machines" become self aware and nuke the planet. And the story starts over with a new enemy.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
16. Which one?
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:48 PM
Oct 2014


Spouse(s)
Sharon Williams (1978–1984)
Gale Anne Hurd (1985–1989)
Kathryn Bigelow (1989–1991)
Linda Hamilton (1997–1999)
Suzy Amis (2000–present)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cameron

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
9. Does he think he got it from watching news clips on TV?
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:40 PM
Oct 2014
I mean, come on, he was right on the firing line..........

ecstatic

(32,681 posts)
35. From what I've heard, he followed protocol so he most
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:31 PM
Oct 2014

likely caught it from another person or passenger on the way home.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
50. Gee....I thought you couldn't catch it from felllow passengers.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 11:50 PM
Oct 2014

That's what all the cool kids are saying about Amber Vinson.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
54. probably why he isolated himself, called authorities detailing sx and travel when symptoms started
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 12:26 AM
Oct 2014

Good thing he did that.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
4. Unsuspecting man? Really? He treated Ebola patients in Guinea, and came home on the 14th.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:32 PM
Oct 2014

October 14th + 21 days equals? Election Day. He should have been quarantined until election day.

No self-monitoring... the Dr. from NBC and her shenanigans because she wanted SOUP should have put THAT to an end. PEOPLE cannot be trusted.

We don't need to fear the VIRUS as much as we need to fear the PEOPLE who've been exposed to it, and DON'T WANT TO BE INCONVENIENCED.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
45. Exactly. NO WAY he gets to plead ignorance.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 11:36 PM
Oct 2014

What a fool.

There is no way to trace all his potential contacts.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
7. But... But... millions of people die in bicycle accidents every year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:38 PM
Oct 2014

WHY ARENT WE WORRIED ABOUT BICYCLE ACCIDENTS???? STOP TALKING ABOUT EBOLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


...

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
27. I heard a report that he was a jogger and would go on 3 mile jogs around the hood.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:14 PM
Oct 2014

No telling with whom he may have come in contact.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
15. Quick Stop Breathing
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:47 PM
Oct 2014

I heard from someone in line at the grocery store that it's airborne. Get duct tape and plastic sheets...

Response to sharp_stick (Reply #15)

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
33. Fortunately for me I don't usually take those trains, although I have twice taken
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:22 PM
Oct 2014

The A in the last week or so. But the chances he and I took the even the same train is pretty low, let alone being in the same car.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
34. Just does not seem like he was really
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:24 PM
Oct 2014

Self isolating - in the presser now they said they have his metrocard to trace his route. More for comfort but still.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
40. He went bowling the evening before he got symptoms.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:44 PM
Oct 2014

If they think he was self-isolating, what would he be doing if he wasn't?

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
44. He limited his contacts
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 11:25 PM
Oct 2014

But the panic factor was nit taken into account. Am guessing many less informed are avoiding subways - a fail that should be addressed

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
49. How did he limit his contacts?
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 11:50 PM
Oct 2014

He went out the day before he got symptoms, using public transportation, to a bowling alley.
What would he have done if he didn't try to limit his contacts?

DustyJoe

(849 posts)
39. fer chrissakes
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:42 PM
Oct 2014

Don't Drs ever watch the news ?
It's been told for weeks by the president, the CDC head doctor that ebola is not contagous on a bus.
But, we have nurses flying, doctors on subways, in taxis.

Ohhhhh wait, they quarantined the busload of Marines after the lady puked in it at the Pentagon so maybe busses aren't safe now either.

 

Dwayne Hicks

(637 posts)
20. Stop overreacting
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:54 PM
Oct 2014

It really serves no purpose overblowing this, I highly doubt there will be this "massive outbreak". Just relax and go on about your life.

ecstatic

(32,681 posts)
36. Um, when we get to 10,000 cases a week in W. Africa and 1.4 million infected by January,
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:34 PM
Oct 2014

it will be a problem for everyone on the planet.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
37. "Just relax and go on about your life."
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:39 PM
Oct 2014

Unless he turns out to be one of the "contacts". Then he'll basically have to put his life on hold for the next 3 weeks "out of an abundance of caution". This is certainly going to happen to dozens, maybe hundreds, of New Yorkers.

There doesn't have to be a "massive outbreak" for their to be serious social consequences to this sort of thing.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
25. Then it's time to learn it.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:11 PM
Oct 2014

Spreading unreasonable panic does no one any good.

Panic is the worst reason to do anything.

 

scarystuffyo

(733 posts)
29. The reason they are tracking down his where abouts is because they know he was contagious
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:17 PM
Oct 2014

If he wasn't then no worries........ but they know he was

You don't have to be crawling on all fours throwing up and having explosive diarrhea
to be contagious .

 

scarystuffyo

(733 posts)
51. It's not a theory
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 11:51 PM
Oct 2014

The man was contagious or the CDC would not be trying to track down every where he went
if he wasn't. They would be sure there was no risk of infection.

It's just not a easy virus to be infected with unless you have close contact with a person
who is showing early symptoms but to say he wasn't contagious is flat out wrong.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
53. Of course they are going to notify them. Just like everyone on the plane with the nurse.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 12:20 AM
Oct 2014

But no one knows if he was contagious when he went bowling. They are being overly cautious.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
55. I think the problem is that they can not guarantee that he wasn't contagious.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 12:30 AM
Oct 2014

He is feeling fatigue for several days prior to Thursday. Wednesday he goes bowling. Thursday morning he gets high fever and other symptoms.
So could he have been contagious already when he went bowling?

 

scarystuffyo

(733 posts)
62. I don't think you really understand this
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 01:02 AM
Oct 2014

After four to six days on average, symptoms of Ebola can begin. The period between the transmission of the virus and the start of symptoms is called the incubation period. For Ebola, the incubation period can be as short as 2 days or as long as 21 days.




Is a Person Contagious During the Ebola Incubation Period?

Even if a person exhibits no signs or symptoms of Ebola, he or she can still spread the virus during the incubation period. Once symptoms begin, the person can remain contagious for about three more weeks

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
65. I do understand it. And maybe you are confused why monitoring is good enough for most contacts!!! nt
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 03:37 PM
Oct 2014

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
52. Someone else MAY get Ebola.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 12:03 AM
Oct 2014

That is why the need for caution. Because of where Ebola occurs, there are very few thorough studies about transmission via contact other than with bodily fluids. The studies that have been done HAVE found virus on surfaces where no fluids were visibly present. They have also documented one case in the absence of direct contact and a dozen more with no known contact with anyone with Ebola. None of these peer reviewed studies ruled out the possibility of transmission via virus on the surfaces of objects which are not covered in bodily fluids.

The chances are small - the amount of virus found in isolation wards (which are cleaned frequently) is very low - but they suggested that in areas cleaned less frequently the risk might be higher.

But the chances are not zero - so people who have been exposed do need to start treating this virus with a little more respect than just insisting you are not contagious until you are spewing bodily fluids all over the place.

 

scarystuffyo

(733 posts)
23. I knew this was going to happen
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:08 PM
Oct 2014

Everyone flying in that has visited those countries should be on a mandatory quarantine
for 21 days

You don't like that......then don't plan on flying into the U.S

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
41. So can the children from Rwanda go back to school now
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 11:01 PM
Oct 2014

Or maybe now the parents don't want their kids going to school in NY. Now Faux Noise is more toxic than ever. LOL! Time to quarantine NY.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
46. Oh for the love of christ. Put the movie down and read a book. Or at least a decent news article.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 11:39 PM
Oct 2014

He didn't shit on anybody. He didn't bleed on anybody. As soon as he showed early symptoms (when very little virus was in his body and he was least contagious) he isolated himself. It's a near certainty he hasn't made anybody sick and won't make anybody sick.

That would be the lamest movie ever.

But feel free to whip yourself into a lather out of willful ignorance. The internet is great at that.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
67. Y2K would have made a great movie too. Full of fiction, fear and frenzy.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 03:39 PM
Oct 2014

Y2K would have made a great movie too. Full of fiction, fear and frenzy, based on little more than the improbable/

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