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diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:00 AM Oct 2014

My wife's past employer is basically threating my wife's job with a future employer.

My wife is going through the background check for the one employer that would be a temp job however the company hit a snag with verify her employment with the one company. They have e-mailed my wife asking for documentation.

We are in the middle right now of trying to find her W-2 from the company in some of the boxes we have not had the chance to unpack yet ...(no success)

So my wife called the past employer and they where snippy with her saying they never received her hand written signature to release that information.

She told them the company never had her sign anything that all they had to do was verify the dates like they would verify with any other company.

No they won't

This is the same company who gave her all that trouble because of jury duty and basically would not give her a client to work with.

She told them that if she loses this job because of their actions she would sue them.

EDIT: this is the only issue this company is having in documenting her. There seems to be no other hiccups.

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My wife's past employer is basically threating my wife's job with a future employer. (Original Post) diabeticman Oct 2014 OP
Start looking for that W2. Sheldon Cooper Oct 2014 #1
And if we can't find the W-2? We probably will but if we can't.... diabeticman Oct 2014 #2
I don't have a crystal ball, so I don't know. Sheldon Cooper Oct 2014 #7
That's just it...She is basically screwed. diabeticman Oct 2014 #10
Presumably, you filed a copy with the IRS? jberryhill Oct 2014 #9
Nice to know for the future however she has to start work on Nov 3rd or lose the job. diabeticman Oct 2014 #12
What about copies of past tax returns liberalhistorian Oct 2014 #19
We can maybe call Jackson Hewitt. Last time we had a issue we had to call to New York and it became diabeticman Oct 2014 #21
my tax guy seems to have copies of everything dembotoz Oct 2014 #30
Can she sign a release now? MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #3
She was never given a release to sign. diabeticman Oct 2014 #5
Ask for one. MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #23
Thanks I will have her do that IF her talk with the company manager didn't work. diabeticman Oct 2014 #24
Certified mail time. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #4
okay. diabeticman Oct 2014 #6
Often, the IRS has that W2 information. You can also contact them. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #8
Yes, that doc would have been including w/your last filing catrose Oct 2014 #11
I'm sure you'll find it in your records. MineralMan Oct 2014 #13
We normally have all that documentation together in a folder it is just when we moved that TAX diabeticman Oct 2014 #14
Again, I'm sure you'll find it. MineralMan Oct 2014 #16
Fwiw Kber Oct 2014 #15
Yeah, the former employer is a "dick" JayhawkSD Oct 2014 #18
I think you might regret going to work for the new employer. JayhawkSD Oct 2014 #17
The company she will work for is basically a company known all over the world and more than likely diabeticman Oct 2014 #20
Okay, now I know she will regret going to work for that company. nt JayhawkSD Oct 2014 #31
Is the underlying problem here SheilaT Oct 2014 #22
Lawyer Up ASAP and she may never have to work again! Youdontwantthetruth Oct 2014 #25
In the meantime, head to the nearest IRS office withe documentation of identity. It's faster.v PDJane Oct 2014 #26
I will tell my wife. diabeticman Oct 2014 #27
Try Social Security. Brigid Oct 2014 #28
Thanks diabeticman Oct 2014 #29
Try the state employment office jcboon Oct 2014 #32

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
1. Start looking for that W2.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:02 AM
Oct 2014

There's virtually nothing she can do to the other company, so don't waste time looking for what retaliation she can take. Find the W2 and move on.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
7. I don't have a crystal ball, so I don't know.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:10 AM
Oct 2014

But you are wasting a lot of energy being upset about something you have very little chance of fixing. It's just counterproductive, and you can try to sue them until the cows come home and all you'll get from it is more agitation.

If you can't find the W-2, look for old paystubs, maybe old schedules with the company name on them, copies of any company memos or emails to their employees, any other correspondence, etc. and submit that as verification of employment.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. Presumably, you filed a copy with the IRS?
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:13 AM
Oct 2014

http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc156.html

If you need an exact copy of a previously filed and processed tax return and all attachments (including Form W-2), you should complete Form 4506 (PDF), Request for Copy of Tax Return, and mail it to the address listed in the instructions, along with a $50.00 fee for each tax return requested. The check or money order for the fee should be made payable to the "United States Treasury," and should include your SSN or EIN and the notation "Form 4506 request." Copies are generally available for returns filed for the current and past six years. Copies of jointly filed tax returns may be requested by either spouse and only one signature is required. Allow 75 calendar days to receive your copies.

liberalhistorian

(20,814 posts)
19. What about copies of past tax returns
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:36 AM
Oct 2014

that show the copy of the W-2? Did you have a CPA or tax preparer do your taxes or did you do them yourself? If you had a CPA or tax preparer do them, then they should have a copy of it. If you did them yourself, you could probably even contact the IRS and ask for a copy. That has worked for me in the past when I needed a W-2 or tax return and couldn't find it.

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
21. We can maybe call Jackson Hewitt. Last time we had a issue we had to call to New York and it became
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:42 AM
Oct 2014

a huge game of telephone.

dembotoz

(16,785 posts)
30. my tax guy seems to have copies of everything
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 01:34 PM
Oct 2014

or perhaps he just knows how bad we are at this stuff
You can also get a copy of the tax return from the irs
we get to do that every damn year for fafsa audit.
every damn year.....

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
3. Can she sign a release now?
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:07 AM
Oct 2014

Drop it off or fax.

Call the company and ask how you can work together to solve this problem.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
23. Ask for one.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 12:02 PM
Oct 2014

Or write one yourself.

"I, [name], hereby request and give permission to [previous company] to release [name(s) of documents] to [new company]."

Sincerely yours,

[signature]
[printed name]

Put it on personal letterhead that you make up on your computer. You could also cc (copy) the new company on the letter, to show them that your wife is trying!

For the new company, you might want to put the name or department, along with an address, email, fax, and/or whatever contact info that will make it easy to do.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
4. Certified mail time.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:07 AM
Oct 2014
So my wife called the past employer and they where snippy with her saying they never received her hand written signature to release that information.


Send them a notarized written request for same by certified mail, requiring them to sign for it. Have a couple of witneses who sign a form stating they watched her put that form in the envelope, verified the address and watched her put it in the mail.

It may or may not help with actually getting the info, but it should help if you actually do end up going to a lawsuit, if they still want to pretend they never got a request.

catrose

(5,059 posts)
11. Yes, that doc would have been including w/your last filing
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:14 AM
Oct 2014

So you could call IRS and ask for a copy of your last filing plus the attachments.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
13. I'm sure you'll find it in your records.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:20 AM
Oct 2014

I'd make that a high priority. For future reference, it's a good idea each year to put all tax forms and supporting documents in a clearly marked large envelope so you can find them quickly when needed, even after moving.

If you ever apply for a mortgage or something like that, you'll be glad you did that. Same with all other important documents. Having to search through unsorted papers when you really need a document is very stressful.

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
14. We normally have all that documentation together in a folder it is just when we moved that TAX
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:24 AM
Oct 2014

return from last year wasn't put with the others because the others had been packed away and we had it handy in case of audit.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
16. Again, I'm sure you'll find it.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:28 AM
Oct 2014

Moving can make it difficult, for sure. I found some records in a box I don't remember putting them in after I moved to Minnesota. Moving gets things into places you don't expect.

Kber

(5,043 posts)
15. Fwiw
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:26 AM
Oct 2014

When I hire I make a good faith attempt to verify all info, but if the company or reference doesn't call back, I move on. I don't take it out on the perspective employee.

Also, there is no law that I know of that prohibits past employers from releasing employment dates. It is true I cannot release salary without a signed letter though.

You may be stressing over nothing. Try calling the new place and explaining the situation. They may be sympathetic. I would be.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
18. Yeah, the former employer is a "dick"
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:33 AM
Oct 2014

They do not need employee's permission to relaese the dates of employment. I have been asked for that information "verification of employment" dozens of times and have never hesitated to provide it. If they ask for any information more than that I decline.

The prospective employer does need to ask, "May we contact your present/past employers?" but that can be verbal.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
17. I think you might regret going to work for the new employer.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:30 AM
Oct 2014

Pretty rigid about form of verification of employment, as well as "Go to work by Nov 3rd or lose the job." Maybe this is just the new norm for conditions of employment, but I would take it as a bad sign of what they are like to work for.

You may not, of course, have any choice, in which case you have my sympathy.

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
20. The company she will work for is basically a company known all over the world and more than likely
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:38 AM
Oct 2014

a few government contracts.

The info is being verified by a third part company.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
22. Is the underlying problem here
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:59 AM
Oct 2014

that she's needing to get a security clearance, which means that they want to know every single job she's ever had back to 1938? Because if this is just some ordinary sort of temp job, I don't get why the prospective employer is bothered by this company behaving like this, not if she has other employment that's easy to verify.

I do hope you find the W2 and that it gets resolved quickly.

 
25. Lawyer Up ASAP and she may never have to work again!
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 12:19 PM
Oct 2014

Many a company have LOST cases like this in court already, most Large Companies or Corporations now will just verify the dates of employment and salary information.

If they do or say anything more they are opening themselves up for a big old lawsuit.

Case in point about 12 years ago I worked for a major corporation where one of the admins had left for another job that paid more.

When the other company came a checking my boss, a VP, decided to bad mouth her because he was pissed she was leaving for more money that he would not match and he would have to hire a new admin.

Needless to say she did not get the job because of him, she sued, the VP was fired within 2 days of the company being hit with the lawsuit and they quickly settled, she now does not have to work.

The company even had a policy prior to the incident that any inquires go to HR and they only verify dates of employment, salary info and general duties.

Many were glad he got canned too.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
28. Try Social Security.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 01:26 PM
Oct 2014

She should be able to set up an account online to view her employment history and print it out -- or visit them in person.

jcboon

(296 posts)
32. Try the state employment office
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 02:16 AM
Oct 2014

In Virginia the Virginia Employment Commission has a record of your employment history.

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