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MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 11:23 AM Oct 2014

Just over a week to go before November 4. Who Will Win?

For Senate elections in particular, there are a number of races where the outcome can't yet be predicted. In every one of those states, a hard week of work doing GOTV can swing the vote to the Democrats running.

The same is true for many House races, along with state legislative races, even in some red states. If you can, and if you care, call your local Democratic Party organization and ask how you can help. Call the campaign office for any candidate and ask how you can help in this last week. It could make the difference.

Don't pay any attention to people who tell you it doesn't matter. It does. It matters incredibly much anywhere any race is close.

GOTV 2014 and Beyond!

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Just over a week to go before November 4. Who Will Win? (Original Post) MineralMan Oct 2014 OP
Its going to be a nail biter and yes indeed it does matter. Anyone who thinks otherwise is.. DCBob Oct 2014 #1
I'm not making any predictions. MineralMan Oct 2014 #2
What's mind boggling is why anyone who understands politics thinks this is a meaningless election. DCBob Oct 2014 #8
I doubt anyone thinks that. Some people, though, do seem to think MineralMan Oct 2014 #9
No doubt GOTV works. Some people just need a little nudge to convince them to GOTA and vote. DCBob Oct 2014 #10
Senator Franken's 2008 victory comes to mind Zambero Oct 2014 #11
That is an outstanding example. Franken won by only 300-odd MineralMan Oct 2014 #12
There are a lot of people who only seem to pay attention every four years customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #22
Concur on your veto comment and I doubt there will be enough votes to filibuster anything. DCBob Oct 2014 #23
Filibusters and vetoes customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #24
GOTV Threads Need Recs. MineralMan Oct 2014 #3
gotv flamingdem Oct 2014 #4
Thanks! MineralMan Oct 2014 #5
K & R...for exposure...nt Wounded Bear Oct 2014 #6
Thank you very much! MineralMan Oct 2014 #7
I don't know and neither do you... brooklynite Oct 2014 #13
Which is why I'm encouraging people to GOTV. MineralMan Oct 2014 #14
I think we're going to keep the Senate. MoonRiver Oct 2014 #15
It ain't looking good for Martha Coakley graywarrior Oct 2014 #16
I'm afraid she's not a winning candidate. If she loses, this MineralMan Oct 2014 #18
Yeah, her only hope is getting the ground forces out on election day. graywarrior Oct 2014 #20
you post 3 or 4 threads a day that a virtually indistinguishable from one another cali Oct 2014 #17
If my threads do not appeal to you, you needn't read them. MineralMan Oct 2014 #19
I'm very pessimistic customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #21
I have Gov. Cuomo and Rep. Paul Tonko KMOD Oct 2014 #25
If we manage to keep the senate and turn the house would Obama become the transformational man peacebird Oct 2014 #26

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
1. Its going to be a nail biter and yes indeed it does matter. Anyone who thinks otherwise is..
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 11:32 AM
Oct 2014

lying or a fool or both.

I'm predicting a 50/50 split with Biden being the deciding vote.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
2. I'm not making any predictions.
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 11:33 AM
Oct 2014

I'll be holding my breath a lot on election day and keeping my fingers crossed.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
8. What's mind boggling is why anyone who understands politics thinks this is a meaningless election.
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 11:42 AM
Oct 2014

No matter what side you are on this has tremendous implications. I know many on the left are disgruntled and think the party has gone too far to the right but if the GOPers take over the Senate it will get really ugly indeed for any progressive or liberal agenda. If they get control of both chambers I suspect the President will have to compromise just keep to the RW maniacs from blowing up the place. Threatening not to vote is not going to gain them anything and will just make matters worse... much worse.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
9. I doubt anyone thinks that. Some people, though, do seem to think
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 11:46 AM
Oct 2014

that GOTV doesn't work any more. I'm guessing those people aren't interested in doing the work required for it to work.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
10. No doubt GOTV works. Some people just need a little nudge to convince them to GOTA and vote.
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 11:52 AM
Oct 2014

GOTA (get off their arse!)

We are all so busy and distracted that many need to be reminded how important this election is.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
11. Senator Franken's 2008 victory comes to mind
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 11:58 AM
Oct 2014

And after the Florida 2000 debacle and all that followed it once the fix was in, I am surprised that some even question whether GOTV is important. Sometimes the margin of victory is smaller than the voting rolls of a single precinct, and often a fraction of a vote per precinct between candidates decides the outcome. And yes, if it's close enough to contest it's close enough to steal, especially when a fox oversees the chicken coop.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
12. That is an outstanding example. Franken won by only 300-odd
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 12:01 PM
Oct 2014

votes. A statewide recount was required to make sure he won. It took months, and that seat in the Senate was vacant until the recount was finished. If those 300-something voters had not gone to the polls, Minnesota would have a Republican sitting in the Senate, instead of two Democrats.

Even though President Obama won Minnesota easily in 2008, Al Franken barely won at all. Every vote in that election counted, as so often happens.

GOTV 2014 and Beyond!

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
22. There are a lot of people who only seem to pay attention every four years
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 02:34 PM
Oct 2014

You are absolutely correct in your predictions that if the President has to deal with both houses of Congress being in GOP hands that it will get messy. He won't have any other elections to worry about (he probably knows that if Hillary runs, she's got it) and his last two years will be about doing something in addition to the ACA for his legacy. I'm sure he doesn't want that legacy to consist only of whipping out his veto pen, and he will try to shape legislation that he can defend signing.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
23. Concur on your veto comment and I doubt there will be enough votes to filibuster anything.
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 04:51 PM
Oct 2014

If the GOP wins both chambers these next two years will swing this country even farther right.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
24. Filibusters and vetoes
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 06:33 PM
Oct 2014

Gridlock elevated to an art form. The GOP would love it, and they'd sell it like crazy: "Hillary is coming, you know those goofy people who love the Clintons are going to bring her back, make sure you vote Republican in at least your House and Senate races in 2016, to protect yourself from her radical agenda!"

brooklynite

(94,508 posts)
13. I don't know and neither do you...
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 12:15 PM
Oct 2014

The races in play will be close up to the end. Depending on voter turnout and voter suppression we could win and we could lose.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
15. I think we're going to keep the Senate.
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 01:32 PM
Oct 2014

We'll also take a lot of governorships (including KS!!!). That's my prediction, and I'm sticking to it!

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
16. It ain't looking good for Martha Coakley
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 01:48 PM
Oct 2014

These damn independent voters in MA are gonna vote Baker in. He's 8 points ahead in the polls right now. Plus, Seth Moulton beat John Tierney in the primaries and I am going to have a very difficult time voting for him. MA is no longer the liberal state is used to be.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
18. I'm afraid she's not a winning candidate. If she loses, this
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 01:52 PM
Oct 2014

will probably be her last political outing. I think her previous one should have been her last. These days, most states are not reliably anything any longer. There are no lock-ins for most political offices, frankly. I'm still hopeful that MA will come to its senses, but I'm less optimistic than I was. Still, a strong Democratic GOTV campaign can still pull it out for her.

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
20. Yeah, her only hope is getting the ground forces out on election day.
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 02:02 PM
Oct 2014

Dems are good at that, but Tierney had a ton of support and now he's gone. I may have to move to VT. Eastern MA is so red now, it's sickening. Hopefully Western MA will get out in droves and vote.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
17. you post 3 or 4 threads a day that a virtually indistinguishable from one another
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 01:51 PM
Oct 2014

that's fine, but what's the point? DUers vote and many of us engage in GOTV activities. We're already aware of the information in your posts. I'd think your time would be better spent engaging in GOTV rather than posting the same op over and over.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
19. If my threads do not appeal to you, you needn't read them.
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 01:54 PM
Oct 2014

Truly. I will post as I see fit on DU. You are more than welcome to reply to my posts. I can't see the problem, frankly.

As for my GOTV efforts, you are not here in my precinct, so you have no idea what I'm doing. But thanks for your advice.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
21. I'm very pessimistic
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 02:29 PM
Oct 2014

I think anything that is close within the margin of error will go to the GOP, and I expect that there are at least one or two that would be thought of as "in the bag" for the Democratic candidate will turn out to be a surprise win for the Repubs, too. I don't see us getting any surprise wins, or even close calls.

Ebola fever is the October surprise that moves the needle here. The Democratic base (nor the GOP one, either) will be shaken by it, but if you've read my posts, then you know I absolutely believe that the mushy middle is moved most strongly by fear. Right now, they're whipped into a frenzy, and looking for someone to blame.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
25. I have Gov. Cuomo and Rep. Paul Tonko
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 06:47 PM
Oct 2014

I'm very confident that both will win.

I will vote, I always do.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
26. If we manage to keep the senate and turn the house would Obama become the transformational man
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 06:54 PM
Oct 2014

We hoped he would be back on 2008?

I would hope so, but I wouldn't expect it.

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