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demmiblue

(36,835 posts)
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 08:20 PM Oct 2014

Windowless Plane Would Let Passengers See World Around Them

Source: Mashable



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The imaging you'd see from the panels would come from mounted cameras outside of the aircraft that the developers say could offer an unobstructed panoramic view, meaning no visible wings or engines. Users could adjust the settings and use the displays for in-flight services, the company said.

The plane would use OLED screens (a high-end, thin-film display technology) with protective coatings made to preserve the displays for its lifetime.

Passengers would also be able to see and set their screen to show a live stream of outside surroundings from a completely different portion of the plane.

But this isn't just about a sleek new flight experience. CPI has made some pretty substantial claims about what this sort of technology could do for the flight industry. For starters, the plane walls would be thinner, more lightweight and stronger than what we have now.



Read more: http://mashable.com/2014/10/27/windowless-plane-oled/
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Windowless Plane Would Let Passengers See World Around Them (Original Post) demmiblue Oct 2014 OP
They'd better make the air sickness bags a lot bigger Warpy Oct 2014 #1
I am at sum zero regarding this concept. demmiblue Oct 2014 #4
I"m also claustrophobic leftynyc Oct 2014 #21
yeeeeeeeah! librechik Oct 2014 #17
I for one would pass on this yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #30
freaky! Liberal_in_LA Oct 2014 #2
That's the dumbest idea ever Takket Oct 2014 #3
Well, except for every single repuke idea KamaAina Oct 2014 #39
Sooo if these are 2naSalit Oct 2014 #5
Who gets to control the remote to change the screen? suffragette Oct 2014 #6
The tech isn't there yet, but is getting closer, to display different things based on the angle Recursion Oct 2014 #12
Gee, just watched a show about one of the first planes with a cockpit camera csziggy Oct 2014 #7
pass the dramamine.... spanone Oct 2014 #8
Just serve in-flight pot brownies. Barack_America Oct 2014 #9
That is always the correct answer. Iggo Oct 2014 #16
Yeah that won't do anything to ease flying fears. Initech Oct 2014 #10
I'd be happy with just Suburban Warrior Oct 2014 #11
Yes, yes. elias49 Oct 2014 #26
not just NO, but HELLLLLLLLL NO etherealtruth Oct 2014 #13
I like flying but Phentex Oct 2014 #18
More electronics load = more chance of fires...but flying in thunderstorms at night would be cool! Baclava Oct 2014 #14
Thread winner (for bottom pic)! - nt KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #15
Why thank you!.... I always wanted to be 'Thread Winner'.... Baclava Oct 2014 #40
I put on sunglasses/earplugs and sleep when I fly. aikoaiko Oct 2014 #19
I wonder if the screens would be hackable. Renew Deal Oct 2014 #20
Some pitfalls n2doc Oct 2014 #22
Heh. +1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2014 #23
Lol! demmiblue Oct 2014 #25
Lol! neverforget Oct 2014 #29
Do the floors too. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2014 #24
You can see your feet when you fly??? DetlefK Oct 2014 #28
only if you look down... MindPilot Oct 2014 #32
Unlikely use zipplewrath Oct 2014 #27
Oh hell yes! MindPilot Oct 2014 #31
covered in ads....nt Jesus Malverde Oct 2014 #33
Bah. It's been done before... FSogol Oct 2014 #34
Did Wondie never figue out that Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #35
Horrible idea MrScorpio Oct 2014 #36
This reminds me of Blane the train in Stephan King's Gunslinger series. logosoco Oct 2014 #37
Plane couldn't hold enough liquor for me to fly like that. Lars39 Oct 2014 #38
Nooooooooooooooooooo! Delphinus Oct 2014 #41
So, it's like we're fucking SUSPENDED IN MIDAIR AT 35,000 FEET? Mister Nightowl Oct 2014 #42
There's way too much potential for hackers here jmowreader Oct 2014 #43

Warpy

(111,228 posts)
1. They'd better make the air sickness bags a lot bigger
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 08:31 PM
Oct 2014

I don't see this as being particularly attractive to a lot of the flying public.

However, being able to opt for either a movie or a real time series of camera images of the horizon, cloud cover, and whatever you were flying over would be great.

I have no fear of heights and always opt for the front window of the local tram. People who wanted to see what I'm looking at down there have gone quite green. I am in a distinct minority in that regard, so if they want to promote surface travel, they can make the fuselages appear transparent.

demmiblue

(36,835 posts)
4. I am at sum zero regarding this concept.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 08:44 PM
Oct 2014

I am a wee bit claustrophobic on planes, so the expansive feeling might be nice...

however, I am also a little freaked out about heights. Lol!

Definitely a cool use of technology, though.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
21. I"m also claustrophobic
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 11:04 AM
Oct 2014

and I don't think it would help at all. You still can't get out of the airplane and take a walk and get air.

2naSalit

(86,508 posts)
5. Sooo if these are
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 08:46 PM
Oct 2014

projected images, I wonder how long it would be before they are showing ads and fake or pre-recorded images that are showing you a nice pretty picture so you can't see what's actually down there...?

I wouldn't fly in a windowless plane (but I don't fly at all anymore for a number of reasons). I don't trust the corporate entities who own these airlines enough to let them fly me someplace where I can't see where we are going or what's really outside the aircraft. But that's just me.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
12. The tech isn't there yet, but is getting closer, to display different things based on the angle
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 09:53 PM
Oct 2014

So, viewing from seat 12A you would see "X-Men 15 and a Half", and from seat 12B you would see "The Pain and the Yearning", both looking at the same patch of wall.

csziggy

(34,135 posts)
7. Gee, just watched a show about one of the first planes with a cockpit camera
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 09:00 PM
Oct 2014

That let the passengers see the pilots' view. But the plane it was in crashed horribly shortly after takeoff, killing everyone one board (if I remember correctly). One of the things that haunted the NTSB investigators was that the passengers would have seen their certain deaths coming. In the show about the crash, they made the point that cockpit cameras were discontinued after that. It may have been Flight 191 but I'm not sure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_191).

I can't imagine what would happen in an emergency with a full view like on the plane in the OP. And I would NOT be one of the passengers - too much chance of vertigo!

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
26. Yes, yes.
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 11:51 AM
Oct 2014

But that won't happen until (unless) people stop flying so much. How do we get costs down or airline profits?
Nah. This is America...

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
13. not just NO, but HELLLLLLLLL NO
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 09:56 PM
Oct 2014

... at least for me. I can't /won't look out the window on a "regular" plane

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
14. More electronics load = more chance of fires...but flying in thunderstorms at night would be cool!
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 09:58 AM
Oct 2014

Are we even sure we want to know what goes on out there?



zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
27. Unlikely use
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 11:55 AM
Oct 2014

If they can convince everyone from the FAA to the airlines to make windowless aircraft, it would make for better fuselages. Those windows create a long series of potential failure points that all have to be re-enforced. However, I'm dubious this is what would be displayed. Most likely some study would be done on patterns and colors that would calm and assure people the most, as well as encourage sleep. In an emergency, the most likely thing would be graphics indicating where exits were, where to find the flotation devices, etc. Great way to supply information as well about connecting flights, how to get through customs. And of course as we all know, it means another venue for advertising, subtle or otherwise.
At the simplest they could display a virtual fuselage with a much larger window next to you, and make the scene outside selectable. Anything from the actual outside view to an apparent view outside a train window.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
31. Oh hell yes!
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 12:58 PM
Oct 2014

And supplement that with a visor that effectively makes the interior of the aircraft disappear. Now that would be flying!

Also, how about making that drink cart run on a set of overhead tracks so passengers can get past it to get to the blue room?

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
36. Horrible idea
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 02:51 PM
Oct 2014

If anything, for the air/motion sickness that it will create.

Motion sickness is created when there's a conflict between what a person sees (or doesn't see) and what their inner ear detects.

I've had this shit happen to me before. The only time I've been airsick was when I was in an AF cargo plane and had no windows to look out of. If you're a passenger in a car on a winding road, you'll have to see where you're going, or else you're going to get sick.

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
37. This reminds me of Blane the train in Stephan King's Gunslinger series.
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 02:54 PM
Oct 2014

I don't fly and if I was in this plane, I would be sitting with my eyes shut tight and my feet up under me as close as I could get them (even if it is just imaging, it is too real!)

Delphinus

(11,830 posts)
41. Nooooooooooooooooooo!
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 06:56 PM
Oct 2014

Please, it's hard enough to fly sometimes - not that I'm really skittish - but I've had to catch myself from having semi-panic attacks. This would not work for me at all.

jmowreader

(50,549 posts)
43. There's way too much potential for hackers here
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 08:19 PM
Oct 2014

You KNOW if they put a huge display like that in an airplane, every hacker in the world is going to work on putting pictures of Cthulhu on it.

Try this, tho: put a set of rails on the wall of the plane at window height, and put 19" LCD panels next to each row of seats driven by a camera on each wing looking out.

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