The Blundering Rise And Epic Fall Of The Christie-Cuomo Ebola Quarantine

[Cha]

By Dylan Scott PublishedOctober 27, 2014, 2:18 PM EDT

"If anything is clear from the reporting of the nurse who was quarantined in a New Jersey hospital over Ebola fears, it's that the actual quarantine itself was handled miserably. Nurse Kaci Hickox, who returned to the U.S. via Newark airport Friday after treating Ebola patients for Doctors Without Borders in Sierra Leone, described her treatment as "a frenzy of disorganization." She was so flustered that a forehead reading showed her with a fever -- which was then used as reason to quarantine her. Later, they took her temperature again and no fever registered. She was kept in quarantine anyway.

Further reported details of Hickox's predicament made clear that, although New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo were anxious to show resolve and order the quarantine, their local health officials weren't ready to carry out the order in any way that resembled humane treatment.

According to CNN, Hickox was placed in a tent inside the isolation ward at University Hospital in Newark almost simultaneously to the quarantine policy being put in effect. She was not allowed to take her luggage with her into quarantine and was forced to wear paper scrubs. She had no shower or flushable toilet -- she also lacked any form of entertainment, no television and no reading materials. She had to speak with her lawyers through a narrow window in the tent.

She said she mostly spent her time staring at walls -- until she started to take her story national in a first-person narrative for the Dallas Morning News and in her Sunday interview with CNN.

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Best Wishes to Nurse Kaci Hickox a real hero! Mahalo!

Edit: to add.. from the link..

"Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health

"I don't want to be directly criticizing the decision that was made. But we have to be careful that there aren't unintended consequences," he said on Meet The Press. "We need to treat them, returning people, with respect, and make sure that they're really heroes. So the idea that we're being a little bit draconian, there are other ways to protect."

[Cha]

1. KICK for Kaci!

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[Spitfire of ATJ]

39. Okay,...that was funny...

"Cha Cha Cha".

[Cha]

43. Leave it to you to notice,

Spitfire! rofl

[TDale313]

5. K&R

Thanks

[Cha]

6. Thank you, TDale!

[cwydro]

7. The guy is such an idiot.

I hope this continues to blow up.

And where is our "czar?"

[Cha]

8. I hope Kaci Hickox gets compensation and exposes Christie's lies.

[mcar]

9. K&R

Glad she's home. Christie deserves all the shame for this.

[Cha]

10. Mahalo mcar. :(

[freshwest]

11. Hooray for cooler heads like PBO who relies on Science, not Demagoguery!

[Cha]

12. And, Christie was just trying so hard to get over Bridgegate and Bam! His Demogoguery Blows

up in his face..

Mahalo, fresh~

[greatlaurel]

13. Great post! Thanks for posting this.

This woman is a hero. She stood up to the twins of nitwittery, Cuomo and Christie, and exposed them for the bullies and idiots they are. Way to go Kaci! Hope she keeps talking about this. The CC twins idiocy will only harm the efforts to combat this outbreak.

Rachel Maddow interviewed another Ebola political prisoner, Mr. Ryan Boyko, Yale student under Ebola quarantine in Connecticut on orders from Gov. Malloy. He had been in Liberia working on their patient tracking system at their ministry of health and had no contact with Ebola patients. I am shocked at how ignorant politicians are about basic public health. President Obama has behaved in the appropriate and effective manner on the Ebola outbreak. Let us not forget the Republicans slashed the funding for the CDC. Dr. Fauci has already stated we would already have a vaccine for Ebola if there had not been budget cuts.

[Cha]

16. Don't mess with an Ebola Nurse, greatlaurel! Mahalo for the report from Rachel and Ryan Boyko..

I'm kinda surprised Gov Malloy would do this.

[greatlaurel]

57. Nurse Hickox has faced down death in West Africa. That overblown bully, Christie, cannot scare her.

[Cha]

59. Good POINT!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

19. just want to repeat what you said, as well as K&R for the thread---

I am shocked at how ignorant politicians are about basic public health. President Obama has behaved in the appropriate and effective manner on the Ebola outbreak. Let us not forget the Republicans slashed the funding for the CDC. Dr. Fauci has already stated we would already have a vaccine for Ebola if there had not been budget cuts.

[greatlaurel]

56. Thanks!

[KMOD]

14. and as of this morning,

He is still insisting she was "very ill".

From the moment she landed in Newark, until she finally escaped Christie's stupidity, it was handled terribly.

Get some well deserved rest, Kaci, and thank you!!!

[Cha]

17. Hey KMOD.. Mahalo for that report on Christie's Latest Lie.. from the OP..

She was so flustered that a forehead reading showed her with a fever -- which was then used as reason to quarantine her. Later, they took her temperature again and no fever registered. She was kept in quarantine anyway

Yes, Thank You, Kaci Hickox~

[KMOD]

20. My pleasure. I'm still so disgusted with what Christie did to her

for political points and fear.

He should be ashamed of himself, and he deserves the ridicule he gets.

[sheshe2]

15. We do a small contribution each Christmas...

to a group we believe in. Doctors with out Borders are one of them. Kudos to the brave souls that do what The Christies refuse to do.

Best Wishes to Nurse Kaci Hickox a real hero! Yes she is Cha!

Thank you for a great Op!

[Cha]

18. Mahalo, she~ The Doctors Without Borders is a wonderful group of Caring Human Beings!

[sheshe2]

21. They certainly are Cha!

And with all the nurses in my family...We stand for them all.



you~

[Cha]

23. Healers and Helpers of the World.. and some fake like Chris Christie comes along and Disrespects

them and Lies about it.

she

[sheshe2]

27. If anyone believes these caregivers are not concerned...

about their own families health or the general public is full of shit. My sister has always taken off her shoes at the door when she came home from work. She never knew what she might bring home to the family. Yes she is a nurse.

[Cha]

28. From the link, she.. which I should have put in the OP..

Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health

"I don't want to be directly criticizing the decision that was made. But we have to be careful that there aren't unintended consequences," he said on Meet The Press. "We need to treat them, returning people, with respect, and make sure that they're really heroes. So the idea that we're being a little bit draconian, there are other ways to protect."

To Nurses, Doctors, and all Caregivers~

[KingCharlemagne]

22. You have been distinguishing yourself recently with at least two awesome threads (this one

and the one last night about President Obama hugging Nurse Pham with the moving photos).

Ms. Hickox is a true working-class hero and may prove Christie's Cindy Sheehan, letting air out of the gasbag SS Christie at a slow, agonizing pace but all the more delicious for hissing out so slowly and deliberately.

My sincerest compliments.

[Cha]

25. Christie Blew it, KC and he's lying once again to protect his blunder. It would be so Nice if Kaci

Hickox is able to get just compensation!

And, Mahalo, KingCharlemagne

[KingCharlemagne]

32. Goddamnit, it may be a trifle sexist on my part, but I love watching that fat bastard

being brought down to earth by a professional woman clearly his superior in every way that matters. It fucking makes my day!

[Cha]

38. I hear ya.. Christie is always riding rough shod over so many people with his Blunderbuss and

Lies.. it would be just desserts if he were brought down by an Ebola Nurse Hero!

[KingCharlemagne]

45. As with the thread last night about Nurse Pham, your photographic catalogue and

your ability to summon it quickly is without peer. IOW, this pic is PERFECT.

Again, a serious hat tip.

[Cha]

46. I've been doing this for a loooong time, KC. Lots of wars & battles.

but, I thank you for your kind words. You should know though that we have a lot of people around here whom I admire for their ability to do just that.

[Brigid]

70. This is how he is used to treating people.

And now he's shocked -- shocked I tell you -- that he can't get away with it.

[Cha]

71. Exactly, Brigid.. Christie has gotten away with it for far too long. I hope he's seething from the

NYT ED today.. Called them "grandstanding"..

snip//

"To make matters worse, two ambitious governors — Chris Christie of New Jersey and Andrew Cuomo of New York — fed panic by imposing a new policy of mandatory quarantines for all health care workers returning from the Ebola-stricken countries of West Africa through John F. Kennedy and Newark Liberty international airports. There is absolutely no public health justification for mandatory quarantines.

snip//

"Fortunately, for the public, there are clearer heads at the federal level than there are in the statehouses of New York and New Jersey..."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/28/opinion/ebola-policies-made-in-panic-cause-more-damage.html?smid=re-share&_r=0

applegrove http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025724941

[A Simple Game]

26. You are right a nice OP and thread.

Let's hope all the health care workers are now treated as the heroes they are and not like criminal suspects.

I understand the sentiment and agree with it, but when I think of air hissing out of Christie, delicious is not a descriptive word I would think of using.

[Cha]

29. From the link, A Simple Game...

Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health

"I don't want to be directly criticizing the decision that was made. But we have to be careful that there aren't unintended consequences," he said on Meet The Press. "We need to treat them, returning people, with respect, and make sure that they're really heroes. So the idea that we're being a little bit draconian, there are other ways to protect."

Mahalo

[KingCharlemagne]

35. I'd love to take credit for this joke, but wit is not my strong suit. At the time of the Bridgegate

scandal, some wit quipped that this was the second time a blimp had crashed in New Jersey.



I know, I know, we're not supposed to take such delight in fat shaming, but I mean really, that joke is fucking hilarious!

[littlemissmartypants]

24. Thanks, Cha!

And a big kicketty kick!

Very Best Wishes to Nurse Kaci Hickox a real hero!

Mahalo!

~ littlemissmartypants 🙆

[Cha]

31. Mahalo to you, Lmsp!

[alcibiades_mystery]

30. Make no mistake: this absurdity was enabled and sanctioned by Ebola Panic-mongers,

of which we have/had no shortage.

They are not close to ashamed of themselves, needless to say.

[Cha]

34. Says Christie was "still defiant".. and is apparenly still lying about Kaci Hickox and saying she

was sick.. Of course Christie is lying.. that's what he does.

"At first, Christie in particular was defiant. He said Sunday morning that he had "no second thoughts" about instituting the quarantine. But that confidence lasted just 24 hours more.

By Sunday evening, Cuomo was revising his quarantine policy, per the New York Times, ordering that patients could spend their time at home. By Monday morning, with everybody from the White House to almost any medical authority who had spoken publicly on the issue urging a more restrained response, Christie said that Hickox could spend the remainder of her 21 days at home.

Christie's office did what it could to save face after that announcement, but the speed of the reversal crystallized what had really been clear from the beginning: This whole thing had been botched.

Big bad Christie had to back down.

[KingCharlemagne]

36. I love watching that fat bastard fold like the cheap suit he has always been. - nt

[etherealtruth]

33. Christie is right on one count: He had an obligation to protect the public good

The public would have been well served to be provided ACCURATE SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERT.

Ramping up panic by fear mongering nonsensical actions that had no basis in reality (reality= science/ proven public health measures) served NO ONE, and served to further confuse the public.

Christie is an idiot.

[Cha]

40. Yeah, only the way Christie "protects the public good" is pure demagoguery.. they're just empty

words to him, etherealtruth.. as we all know. To be repeated over and over again while he blunders his way through his republicon, Ebola draconian, Fear response.

[mountain grammy]

37. K&R

[Cha]

44. mahalo, mountain grammy~

[mountain grammy]

58. It is stunning what went on there. Christie and Cuomo made complete fools of themselves.

They deserve our scorn, and they deserve to be sued.

[LovingA2andMI]

41. .......

then silence.....

[seabeyond]

42. Excellent op cha. I have been pissed for this woman for three days now. She kicked ass...

I am so glad we had a woman like this put into the position. How she handled it put a stop to it and saved others having to experience, because it became alright.

The pres did perfectly as well.

[Cha]

49. I know, seabeyond.. all was right with the Universe for this to happen as it did!

Mahalo~

[seabeyond]

50. Exactly. Yes. Nt

[MontyPow]

47. It will be fascinating to see how many Democrats

Jump on the Cuomo bandwagon once he seeks national office.

[Cha]

51. Christie's a lying idiot.. but not sure that qualifies him for the GOP nomination.

[MontyPow]

60. Christie's still trying I figure out how to recover from Bridgegate.

He used his buddy Cuomo for cover to go all Teabaggery.

Cuomo is Democratic Poison. If Democrats don't come to understand this soon, he will one day be our candidate.

[oldandhappy]

48. Christie is such a bully and such a liar.

I dread another campaign with him.

[Cha]

55. Hopefully Christie's campaign will Flounder like he has with his response to Nurse Kaci Hickox,

oldandhappy.

[Hekate]

52. Hats off to Kaci! May sanity and science prevail!

[Cha]

63. Christie's "draconian", Hekate.. grandstanding and show no respect for Nurse Kaci Hickox..

"Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health

"I don't want to be directly criticizing the decision that was made. But we have to be careful that there aren't unintended consequences," he said on Meet The Press. "We need to treat them, returning people, with respect, and make sure that they're really heroes. So the idea that we're being a little bit draconian, there are other ways to protect."

[The empressof all]

53. I just find myself wondering....

I'm trying to understand the hows and whys of how this all unfolded behind the scenes....

Christies advisors must really hate him or they and Christie are just fricken idiots to try to pull this off. Either way I have so much appreciation for Kaci Hickox. She is a true hero...not just for her sacrifice of time and energy to help others oversees but to come home and stand up to that bully.

[Cha]

64. Well said, T empressof all.. just saw this from the NYT ED..

"To make matters worse, two ambitious governors — Chris Christie of New Jersey and Andrew Cuomo of New York — fed panic by imposing a new policy of mandatory quarantines for all health care workers returning from the Ebola-stricken countries of West Africa through John F. Kennedy and Newark Liberty international airports. There is absolutely no public health justification for mandatory quarantines."

applegrove http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025724941

Mahalo

[nikto]

54. Christie and Cuomo suck

What a pair.

I probably resent Cuomo's formidable jerkhood even more than Christie's (who is also a felon, IMO),
because I expect more from Democrats then to be complete A-Holes like garden-variety GOPers.

Not so in Cuomo's case.

Cuomo may be the #2 Jerk in The Democratic party, after Rahm ("Liberals Are 'F–king Retarded' ”) Emanuel.

These boyz are scumbags, no doubt about it.

Don't be fooled by their party label.

[Cha]

65. This kinda of nails the current situation of these two, nikto..

"To make matters worse, two ambitious governors — Chris Christie of New Jersey and Andrew Cuomo of New York — fed panic by imposing a new policy of mandatory quarantines for all health care workers returning from the Ebola-stricken countries of West Africa through John F. Kennedy and Newark Liberty international airports. There is absolutely no public health justification for mandatory quarantines."

applegrove http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025724941

[lonestarnot]

61. So isn't keeping someone against their will kidnapping?

[Cha]

66. Should be an ineresting lawsuit from Nurse Kaci Hickox, lonestarnot!

[lonestarnot]

67. Yes it should. But kidnap is criminal, a felony last time I checked.

[NBachers]

62. Put Christie in a plastic tent with nothing but his mental flatulance to keep him occupied.

[flamingdem]

68. Put 'im in a tent

Love your idea

Christie is such a moron (moran) correct Cha?

[Cha]

72. Chrisite is a "grandstanding" "draconian" "ambitious" pol who's met his match in Ebola Nurse Hero..

Kaci Hitchox, flamingdem~

snip//

"To make matters worse, two ambitious governors — Chris Christie of New Jersey and Andrew Cuomo of New York — fed panic by imposing a new policy of mandatory quarantines for all health care workers returning from the Ebola-stricken countries of West Africa through John F. Kennedy and Newark Liberty international airports. There is absolutely no public health justification for mandatory quarantines."

snip//

"Fortunately, for the public, there are clearer heads at the federal level than there are in the statehouses of New York and New Jersey.."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/28/opinion/ebola-policies-made-in-panic-cause-more-damage.html?smid=re-share&_r=0

applegrove http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025724941

Okay.. he's "moran" too!

[Cha]

69. Christie would rather be doing his draconian grandstanding.. disrespecting the Hero Ebola Nurse,

Nabachers. However, if Kaci Hickox were to be able to successfully sue the state.. and bring him some More bad publicity.. there would be some justice for what he did to her.

Snip from NYT OP..

"Fortunately, for the public, there are clearer heads at the federal level than there are in the statehouses of New York and New Jersey. On Monday, strict new federal monitoring rules, announced by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention last week, went into effect for travelers entering the United States from Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone. The rules are designed to avoid the confusion of state-by-state policies, give health workers and other travelers a clearer idea of what to expect and reassure the public that somebody is in charge. State and local health departments will contact travelers daily for 21 days after their departure from West Africa to check on their temperatures and other symptoms (21 days is the maximum period for symptoms to develop). If the returning health care workers fail to report as required, health officials will track them down using contact information they have provided upon entry."

applegrove http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025724941

[applegrove]

73. Thanks Cha Cha Cha.

[Cha]

74. Ah, you're Welcome apple! i just found this..

"Christie Defiant on Quarantined Nurse: ‘My Job Is Not to Represent Her’

snip//

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie pushed back Monday afternoon against the characterization of his decision to release nurse Kaci Hickox from quarantine as a “reversal” from his previous policy.

"The reason she was put into the hospital in the first place was because she was running a high fever and was symptomatic. If you live in New Jersey, we will quarantine you in your home. That was always the policy. If you live outside the state and you are symptomatic, we’re not letting you go onto public transportation. It makes no common sense.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/christie-defiant-over-quarantined-nurse-my-job-is-not-to-represent-her/

Only according to all reports.. she was Never sick! He's Lying A-Gain.. down there in Florida this time Lying for Rick Scott.

[Cha]

75. White House: We Should ‘Celebrate’ Nurse Hickox, Not Make Her Live in a Tent

"Earnest told the press corps that the feeling of at least some people within the White House is that “the service of somebody like Kaci Hickox is something that we should honor and respect.” He added, “She didn’t travel over there because she was getting a big paycheck. Presumably, she’s not going to be inducted into the nurses’ hall of fame for it. She did it out of concern for her common man.”


“Her service and commitment to this cause is something that should be honored and respected,” Earnest repeated, “and I don’t think we do that by making her live in a tent for two or three days.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/white-house-we-should-celebrate-nurse-hickox-not-make-her-live-in-a-tent/

[TexasTowelie]

76. Great thread Cha. K&R!

I've been fighting the Ebola nonsense in the Mr. Conservative column on the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal this month. He accuses the president of politicizing Ebola, but has already written twelve different blogs this month where Ebola was the primary topic. Republicans are looking like fools for over-reacting to the few cases that have occurred.

[Cha]

77. The Mr Con Column wouldn't like this dose of reality one little bit, TexasT..

The Dangers of Quarantines

snip//

"To make matters worse, two ambitious governors — Chris Christie of New Jersey and Andrew Cuomo of New York — fed panic by imposing a new policy of mandatory quarantines for all health care workers returning from the Ebola-stricken countries of West Africa through John F. Kennedy and Newark Liberty international airports. There is absolutely no public health justification for mandatory quarantines."

snip//

"Fortunately, for the public, there are clearer heads at the federal level than there are in the statehouses of New York and New Jersey.."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/28/opinion/ebola-policies-made-in-panic-cause-more-damage.html?smid=re-share&_r=0

applegrove http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025724941

White House: We Should ‘Celebrate’ Nurse Hickox, Not Make Her Live in a Tent

"Earnest told the press corps that the feeling of at least some people within the White House is that “the service of somebody like Kaci Hickox is something that we should honor and respect.” He added, “She didn’t travel over there because she was getting a big paycheck. Presumably, she’s not going to be inducted into the nurses’ hall of fame for it. She did it out of concern for her common man.”


“Her service and commitment to this cause is something that should be honored and respected,” Earnest repeated, “and I don’t think we do that by making her live in a tent for two or three days.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/white-house-we-should-celebrate-nurse-hickox-not-make-her-live-in-a-tent/

Mahalo, TexasT~

[Cha]

78. Kick!

[malaise]

79. This was abominable

It will cost him

[Cha]

80. K

[Gothmog]

81. Chris Christie is a bully and idiot

The policy was really stupid and fell apart in record time

[Cha]

83. And, a world class Liar, Gothmog..

"Christie Defiant on Quarantined Nurse: ‘My Job Is Not to Represent Her’

snip//

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie pushed back Monday afternoon against the characterization of his decision to release nurse Kaci Hickox from quarantine as a “reversal” from his previous policy.

"The reason she was put into the hospital in the first place was because she was running a high fever and was symptomatic. If you live in New Jersey, we will quarantine you in your home. That was always the policy. If you live outside the state and you are symptomatic, we’re not letting you go onto public transportation. It makes no common sense.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/christie-defiant-over-quarantined-nurse-my-job-is-not-to-represent-her/

[Gothmog]

84. I love the way that Christie is denying that he changed his policy

Christie still thinks that he could be the GOP nominee in 2016. That is not going to happen

[Cha]

85. Copy that.

[whistler162]

82. Need a little Bobby McPheron....

Ebola don't worry about it... 101 degree temperature don't worry.

[Cha]

88. What does this have to do with Christie and Cuomo's Fear Strategy?

[Cha]

86. K

[napkinz]

87. K&R

nt

[Cha]

89. Mahalo napkinz~