Ebola Governors versus Hero Nurse Kaci Hickox. (UPDATED)

[Fred Sanders]

UPDATE: Ebola Governor Lepage Caves To Science, Unable to get Judge to Reject the Science

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014932408
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Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
― Albert Einstein

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“Seven Deadly Sins

Wealth without work
Pleasure without conscience
Science without humanity
Knowledge without character
Politics without principle
Commerce without morality
Worship without sacrifice.”
― Mahatma Gandhi

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A headline I would like to see in the freaky M$M who dismissively call Kaci Hickox and other super heroes "ebola nurse" would refer to the "ebola Governors" as such and Kaci Hickox by name.

These cretins that are attacking her and attacking science have to go.

Not to mention that everyone's else's civil liberties are at stake when these pandering politicians snatch liberty from hero citizens for political gain. Their authoritarianiam is leaking out for all to see, the lack of compassion and lack of insight are astoundingly crystal clear to all. Take liberty so casually from one, you all will be next.

Vote them all out, there is no time for these fact deniers and bullies and cowards in a land of the free and brave. The nation and its constitutional protections exist in part to keep fascists from the gate, not let prance right in and off the hook.

Close the gate, let science in, keep the ebola governors and ebola politicians and barbarians at the gate out.

Barbarian ebola governor Lepage will cave by noon, you watch, science does not tolerate fools well.

Close the gate, slam it on their ignorant beaks....VOTE.

You are with Tyson or you are against him.

[greatlaurel]

1. Kicked and Recommended

Thanks, love that you called those two Ebola Governors! Cuomo is another Ebola Governor.

[Fred Sanders]

2. The ebola Governors deserve all the derision we can heap on them, look how they ignore

hero doctor Spencer as he fights for his life in a hospital...I hate the use of fear for politics most of all the awful things politicians do.

[greatlaurel]

3. That is very true. Have you seen anything in the media about Dr.Spencer? I have seen nothing.

The GOP and the spineless Democrats like Cuomo have nothing but contempt for people.

I very much hope that Dr. Spencer is doing well in his fight with this dread disease. I wish him and his family and friends all the best. He s a true hero and has done far more than any of these grandstanding politicians to protect the American public from this infectious disease.

Keep posting, Fred.

Any ideas on ways to get the term Ebola Governors get more attention?

[Fred Sanders]

5. Yes. Stand outside their homes with an "I may have ebola, arrest me!" sign.

[davidpdx]

4. LePage needs to be LeCanned

[Fred Sanders]

6. The ebola governors and the freaky media are ignoring the life struggle of Dr. Spencer, incredible.

The ebola Governors deserve all the derision we can heap on them, look how they ignore
hero doctor Spencer as he fights for his life in a hospital...I hate the use of fear for politics most of all the awful things politicians do.
Just saying.......

[bullwinkle428]

7. I would love to watch these coward governors shit themselves by

having Kaci Hickox check my vitals in front of them as a kind of publicity stunt, in the name of science.

[Fred Sanders]

8. Obama was with a dozen medical personnel who came back from treating hundreds of ebola

patients, right out in the open......no media coverage.

Should they all have been locked up on arrival? The fear is truly disgusting, the twisting of science equally so.

[badtoworse]

9. I'm with the governors on this one. Public safety is the highest priority.

[tiredtoo]

10. So you are disregarding professional scientific guidelines and listening to public opinion.

[badtoworse]

11. Given what the CDC has said about various risk levels, I consider the governors' actions prudent.

[Fred Sanders]

13. So, basically, fuck the science and the CDC guidleline, I am going with the tea baggers??????

The CDC guideline for returning medical heroes is self monitoring, but you want imprisonment....you are liberal, right?

The tea baggers also deny climate change, you with them on that also?

[badtoworse]

15. Frame it however you like. Governors decide what risk levels are acceptable in their states

The CDC provides risk assessments and recommendations, but ultimately, the governor is responsible for public safety. As such, it's his call.

There is more to managing risk than just science. If the consequences associated with the risk are severe enough, than even a very small risk is not justified. The governors recognize this and it's not clear to me that the CDC has even considered it. I support the governors.

[tiredtoo]

22. If you cannot see the blatant political manuvering in this action, i have to question your loyalty.

[Fred Sanders]

25. As predicted, ebola governor has caved.....now help me get rid of the DU infection of fear. I hate

fear.

[seabeyond]

26. gays will take down marriage, wimminz gotta carry their fetus when raped, gift from god, cauze the

govt knows better.

you mean. that kinda stuff? keeping us safe,

[Fred Sanders]

12. There is zero public safety threat, but some are with the teabag anti-science governor..incredible.

[branford]

17. If there is no threat from asymptomatic individuals, why has the president chosen

to quarantine asymptomatic troops returning from Africa?

Is the president a blatant hypocrite?

[badtoworse]

19. That's a very good question.

[Fred Sanders]

23. Army personnel are not at liberty as you and I are, do you really choose to not see the

difference? And they are not being imprisoned, they are confined to base, they are TROOPS, not citizens, but you carry on with the false equivalency if it helps out with keeping your fear.

I have no time for the science haters and fear and misinformation lovers that parrot tea baggers, you are on the wrong site, sir.

By the way, your hero teabagger ebola governor has caved to the science this morning, do you still want to imprison Kaci Hickox?

[branford]

28. No, I want to release the troops from quarantine based on unsubstantiated fear.

The general level of liberty permitted of the military versus civilians has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the actual medical science of infectiousness and contagion and whether the asymptomatic troops, which we are told had a demonstrably lower exposure to the virus than the civilian aid workers, are more or less a danger to the public.

You have repeatedly demanded that we follow only the science in making quarantine determinations. I mostly agree. Therefore, why are you giving a pass to the White House and Pentagon concerning the quarantined soldiers?

[strawberries]

31. very good

Next question; should a woman have to wait 72 hours to get and abortion
what about a cop putting you in back of his car for two hours.

No other information supplied. Just gross pictures being sent to you if they don't like your answer

[branford]

34. I don't understand your post.

What do quarantines for public health and welfare have to do with elective abortions or police detainment?

In any event, I don't support the quarantines for either the soldiers or returning aid workers if the science really doesn't support it, and want an actual medical explanation from the White House as why the troops warrant quarantine but not the civilians. To the extent it's relevant, I also do not support abortion waiting periods and cannot offer an opinion about police detention without a far more detailed factual scenario, particularly given it's a extensive and complicated area of constitutional law.

[strawberries]

35. they dont

but I had to answer those questions to two people. Who then went into attack mode and started sending me strange pictures

[longship]

29. Nope. Nice try.

All the experts say differently. Zero need for such draconian quarantines.

Anybody who supports such a thing is ignoring the science and is giving in to fear mongering ignorance.

So say ALL the experts, including the ones at the front lines.

[KMOD]

14. He's starting to cave already, Fred

http://abc7news.com/news/ebola-nurse-can-swap-quarantine-for-blood-test-gov-says/372868/

Love the headline.

[Fred Sanders]

24. He caved by noon, as I predicted, the science is irrefutable, the insanity is easily crushed by the

science.

Fucking teabaggers and all that have agreed with them......

Having predicted ebola governor Christie's cave also, this one was easy.

[seabeyond]

27. ???? cool. science vs ignorance. nt

[jen63]

16. GO KACI!!! n/t

[maced666]

18. Most heroes are humble.

And would have taken the 21 days after a hero effort oversea assisting the needy. THAT was a hero, fighting Ebola politics is a step down.
Not saying she isn't right - but not a humble hero that's for sure.

[seabeyond]

21. she fought for the ebola victims. she now fights for the doctors and nurse. she is consistent.

your statement is not.

[Fred Sanders]

33. He is suggesting that because she fights for her constitutional liberties she is not "humble" enough

to be a hero. Pretty desperate stuff by the science deniers as their hero teabagger ebola governor caves. The second one in a week, no wonder teabagger ebola governor Christie got her the hell out of New Jersey, he is still picking up the pieces of his political career.

Duers on the side of two teabag ebola governors and a fear mongering opportunistic democratic ebola governor, and rejecting science and ALL the medical experts, I thought I had seen everything.

[seabeyond]

36. good thing most that stand up, and speak out do not need the label of hero. and ya, it is a hoot,

as these assholes get shot down.

it really is interesting how this has all transpired. the last month of seeing the virus, up close, learning everything, seeing reactions, and then the take downs by one woman.... oh, and all those that have her back. all the way up to the prez

i mean. fuckin' awesome in that.

[Fred Sanders]

37. The corporate media are ignoring the President on the science, thank God for Kaci Hickox, they

have no choice but to cover her because their teabbager ebola governors they cover for have sat in it.

Go, Kaci, hero to Africa, hero to America.

We science lovers have your back.

[seabeyond]

20. health officials in maine. "we do not know much about the virus", and yet she continued with

i recognize we go beyond the federal guidelines (the people that do KNOW about the virus).

and even without info, we are gonna create policy.

is this really who should be creating policy? the ones that admit they do NOT know.

[Fred Sanders]

30. Ebola governors do know that the folks are in a frenzy of fear, THAT is the virus they are treating.

And they are treating it by shredding the constitution for the sake of political gain, and they have their equally ignorant cheerleaders to encourage them.

Ignorance is bliss, so they say, these ebola governors must be in heaven.

[seabeyond]

32. and yea to the nurse that just says.... no. nt