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Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 10:26 AM Oct 2014

Can we please stop insulting the voters. Senator Landrieu, this means you.

What in the world is with the Democratic Party? Have we all gone stark raving insane? Senator Landrieu is in a tough fight for re-election. So what does she do? She insults the voters. Worse, she lists all the issues that the people think are important, and then dismisses those concerns saying that the real problem is that the voters are racist, and sexist.

Senator Landrieu, who has been in the Senate for eighteen years, is complaining that the voters are racist and sexist and that is why she's losing this battle.

Here is the link to the interview with Chuck Todd. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-voters/landrieu-obama-south-not-always-friendliest-place-african-americans-n237826

Yes, the voters in Louisiana are racists, which is why they elected Jindal twice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal Obviously they are sexist, which explains why they elected you to represent them for eighteen years Senator.

Will Democrats please stop insulting the voters for caring about issues that affect them?

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Can we please stop insulting the voters. Senator Landrieu, this means you. (Original Post) Savannahmann Oct 2014 OP
"You're all just a bunch of ignorant, racist, sexist hicks, who deserve nothing but contempt!" Seeking Serenity Oct 2014 #1
It's Louisiana, you forgot "gun humping." nt branford Oct 2014 #13
Electing Jindal proves they are not racists, ha! In Louisiana there are Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #2
It isn't Jindal's race, it is the policies he supports, which are racist and sexist still_one Oct 2014 #5
You missed the point, Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #15
You missed the point. He was being sarcastic. Saying they elected a person of color or still_one Oct 2014 #19
I did not miss the point, i made a statement and I stand by it, Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #21
The OP did, that was his or her argument, same with Landrieu being female, the implication they were still_one Oct 2014 #24
Sorry I did not comment on the sexist portion, I chose to comment on a diffrrent portion. Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #27
I understand, I am just trying to explain my reasoning regarding the OP. Anyway, I understand the context still_one Oct 2014 #28
If the good people of Louisiana NOLALady Oct 2014 #29
Jindal is white?! LOL maced666 Oct 2014 #7
He isn't white but he isn't black dsc Oct 2014 #12
You missed the point also, if you consider two races of black and white, in Louisiana Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #16
Let's pretend there's a post-racial South! Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #3
Yes, Louisiana has been the baston of racial tolerance for years, and the republican party has shown still_one Oct 2014 #4
all she did was tell the truth. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #6
Bobby Jindal suggests Racism is the fault of Minorities for not being "American" Enough still_one Oct 2014 #8
You should sue someone gratuitous Oct 2014 #9
Accidentally telling the truth is a gaffe. Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #10
Did you watch the interview? Savannahmann Oct 2014 #11
translation DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #14
Florida beaches aren't ruined. Seeking Serenity Oct 2014 #17
Nuts. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #18
UPDATE: Savannahmann Oct 2014 #20
The Louisiana State House has the lowest percentage of women of any State House in the US Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #22
She is SPOT ON with her comments. Renaissance Man Oct 2014 #23
and it doesn't just apply to Louisiana either. still_one Oct 2014 #26
So What does Louisiana electing Vitter say about Louisiana? still_one Oct 2014 #25
Sorry, I Totally Disagree With Your Post! ChiciB1 Oct 2014 #30

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. Electing Jindal proves they are not racists, ha! In Louisiana there are
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:03 AM
Oct 2014

Only two races, either you are black of which Jindal in Louisiana is not black or you are white. Yes, they are racists in Louisiana against anyone they do not consider white. I know first hand. I also know lots of the racists people in Louisiana say they don't like Landrieu because she is not racists.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
15. You missed the point,
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 01:35 PM
Oct 2014

the original post said:

Yes, the voters in Louisiana are racists, which is why they elected Jindal twice.

As I explained in Louisiana there are two races, black of which they do not consider Jindal to be or white which takes care of all others. This was a post about Landrieu saying people in Louisiana are racists, it did not go into his politics, I did not like his politics before he was elected and like more of his policies less.

still_one

(92,136 posts)
19. You missed the point. He was being sarcastic. Saying they elected a person of color or
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 02:15 PM
Oct 2014

Last edited Fri Oct 31, 2014, 04:46 PM - Edit history (1)

landreu herself which proves they are not racist or sexist, and that asdumption is wrong. If Sarah Palin would have won vp would that prove Republicans weren't sexist?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
21. I did not miss the point, i made a statement and I stand by it,
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 04:22 PM
Oct 2014

The folks in Louisiana does not see Jindal as black, ergo they see him as white, for lots of people who see Jindal differently.

still_one

(92,136 posts)
24. The OP did, that was his or her argument, same with Landrieu being female, the implication they were
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 07:11 PM
Oct 2014

not sexist

still_one

(92,136 posts)
28. I understand, I am just trying to explain my reasoning regarding the OP. Anyway, I understand the context
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 07:45 PM
Oct 2014

or perspective you are viewing it as. I guess we don't view it the same way, that's all

NOLALady

(4,003 posts)
29. If the good people of Louisiana
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 07:51 PM
Oct 2014

saw Piyush Jindal as a Black Man, he would not have had a chance in hell of being elected.

 

maced666

(771 posts)
7. Jindal is white?! LOL
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:26 AM
Oct 2014

Why, because you say he is - because he isn't black?
LOL you may want to look in mirror if you are looking for racist mindsets.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
12. He isn't white but he isn't black
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 12:19 PM
Oct 2014

and the second is way more important that the first to racists.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
16. You missed the point also, if you consider two races of black and white, in Louisiana
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 01:38 PM
Oct 2014

he is considered white. I am not defending their classification, only to say they do not think they have elected anything other than a white in Louisiana.

 

Ykcutnek

(1,305 posts)
3. Let's pretend there's a post-racial South!
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:04 AM
Oct 2014

When the GOP's whole strategy has been to paint white candidates in blackface to draw out their base of mouthbreathers.

still_one

(92,136 posts)
4. Yes, Louisiana has been the baston of racial tolerance for years, and the republican party has shown
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:15 AM
Oct 2014

in so many ways how much it cares for African Americans and Women.

Jindal caters to racist and sexist policies, so it does not matter what his ethnic background is, it is his actual views.

Clarence Thomas has very similar views.

Guess what, a person or a group can be a racist, and also part of that group.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
6. all she did was tell the truth.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:25 AM
Oct 2014

And it is the racists there that turn out to vote...if minorities and women turned out there she would have a cakewalk...

still_one

(92,136 posts)
8. Bobby Jindal suggests Racism is the fault of Minorities for not being "American" Enough
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:27 AM
Oct 2014

Yes, on the weekend of the 50th Anniversary of the Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. "I Have a Dream" speech from the March on Washington to promote the Civil Rights Act, Governor Bobby Jindal - who probably couldn't have become a Governor without the legacy of that legislation - has decided to honor it by basically blaming racism on the people who are on the receiving end of it.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/08/27/1234141/-Bobby-Jindal-suggests-Racism-is-the-fault-of-Minorities-for-not-being-American-Enough#

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
10. Accidentally telling the truth is a gaffe.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:51 AM
Oct 2014

And when it's an especially painful truth, that's a major gaffe.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
11. Did you watch the interview?
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 12:07 PM
Oct 2014

Senator Landrieu says that the people in Louisiana are angry because President Obama shut the entire Gulf down to new drilling and production instead of limiting just BP. She mentions other issues that the people in her state are not happy about. Then after listing the issues, most of which are economic related, including the pipeline, says that they're racist.

Economic issues rank number one and have for many years. The economy is the single biggest issue facing voters, and the one they want to have addressed, or at least acknowledged. So you have jobs, and industry that is looking at a very weak future, and not hiring more people, and telling the current employees that they may be laid off if we don't get X or Y to boost our business, that isn't racism. That is economic policy affecting a region, and a state. It is the reality to the people.

Senator Landrieu didn't tell the truth in the second half of that answer. She was smart enough to recognize that the issues exist, which means she's not totally insulated from the feelings of her constituents. Great, awesome, representing the voters is the job in a representative republic. Then to utterly disregard the issues you just laid out as ones important to the voters, and say that the reason she's doing poorly is racism and sexism is beyond denial, it's beyond foolish.

If someone came up and said that inaction in Washington was putting the future of my job, and thus by extension the future of my economic reality in jeopardy, I'd want to know what the hell my elected leaders were doing about it. If they said that my concerns were based in racism and sexism instead of economic reality, I'd vote for the other guy because this individual is sadly out of touch and needs to be retired. Even if you don't have a good idea, but you are trying to do something for the state, publicly and loudly, the people appreciate that you are representing them.

They're voters, not subjects. They're voters, not minions. They're voters, not slobbering sycophants. Taking real economic concerns and telling the people that the only reason that it appears to be an issue is because they're racist guarantees a win, for the other guy.

What part of that is news to you? Economy being the most important issue to people? http://www.gallup.com/poll/1675/most-important-problem.aspx It shouldn't be news, I've written about it many times, and so have many others here.

Senator Landrieu started out right, acknowledging the problems faced by the voters in her state. Great job Senator. Then she screwed up badly, and if this gets much more play, and you can count on it playing big in Louisiana, then her career in the Senate is over.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
14. translation
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 01:13 PM
Oct 2014

"If someone came up and said that inaction in Washington was putting the future of my job, and thus by extension the future of my economic reality in jeopardy, I'd want to know what the hell my elected leaders were doing about it."

Tranlsation: After Louisiana Oil screwed up so bad they ruined Florida beaches as well, Obama deserved to be demonized because he took measure that were way too mild, but that Oil Lovin La. saw as severe.

I understand that people may not like being looked down upon, but when their actions are destructive for themselves and for others, yes, they need to be told the truth. If Landrieu's voters do not like it, they can go to Pensacola and helps clean up the beach, aka "that reminder of why we need to keep offshore rigs off OUR COAST, because we have it bad enough with the idiot neighbors."

Seeking Serenity

(2,840 posts)
17. Florida beaches aren't ruined.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 01:43 PM
Oct 2014

I was there this year (PCB). As were friends of mine (Destin, Pensacola). Had a great time.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
18. Nuts.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 01:54 PM
Oct 2014

If Senator Landrieu had gone in that way, she could have said something like this. "The gulf oil spill showed us that oil is dangerous and unsustainable. So I have been working with the White House and the Department of Energy to bring high tech jobs to Louisiana so the state will be on the leading edge of new technology."

Calling the voters racist and sexist was just short of telling them to F-off.

The point remains. Acknowledging the issues, and then calling the voters racist and sexist, after recognizing the issues was mindbogglingly stupid.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
20. UPDATE:
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 02:40 PM
Oct 2014
http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2014/10/a_desperate_mary_landrieu_smea.html

Things must be going even worse for the Democrats than the polls suggest. The campaign of incumbent Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., for example, has hit rock bottom.

How else to explain her lame attempt to blame her electoral peril on racism and sexism? Modern illiberals are incapable of thinking their record or their ideas could lead to misfortune.

Landrieu has trailed in the polls for weeks now. Indeed, it seems increasingly unlikely she could beat either of her two top Republican challengers head-to-head, although she will almost certainly get the chance against one in a runoff.


Read the comments, they're blistering, as predicted.
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
22. The Louisiana State House has the lowest percentage of women of any State House in the US
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 04:28 PM
Oct 2014

Jindal is a racist and a bigot, so how does voting for a racist prove you are not racist?

Renaissance Man

(669 posts)
23. She is SPOT ON with her comments.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 04:56 PM
Oct 2014

Well, the truth hurts. I live in Louisiana, and I can attest that the statements that she makes are, for the most part, true.

Attend tailgating at LSU on a Saturday and notice purple and gold confederate flags waving proudly on LSU's campus.

Look at the employment statistics for black partners of law firms in Louisiana's two largest cities - Baton Rouge and New Orleans. They are dismal, at best.

Look at the environmental disparities of where inner city Baton Rouge is located relative to the ExxonMobl refinery right behind the capital versus other neighborhoods, not to mention the number of chemical and oil refineries located near poor black neighborhoods along the stretch from Baton Rouge to New Orleans. Tie that in with the cancer rates of people within these communities and the complete disregard that the state legislature has for them, and her statements are true.

I know friends of mine who are black with multiple higher level degrees and more experience that are looked over for employment opportunities (in both the private and public sector) against people with half the certifications and degrees.

Look at the funding disparities to state institutions of higher education and the schools (HBCUs) that have suffered disproportionately under Jindal's leadership. Call Southern University and Grambling State University, and I'm sure you'll get an earful.

Look at the number of uninsured poor black Louisianans that have suffered due to lack of Medicaid expansion.

... and that's just south and southeast Louisiana. I haven't even touched Lake Charles and everthing north of Lafayette.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
30. Sorry, I Totally Disagree With Your Post!
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 08:13 PM
Oct 2014

She's just telling it like it is! I say, GOOD... fighting back and this is TRUE!

Most reporting on this agree with her too!

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