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hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 01:20 PM Oct 2014

The Surgeon General - what I didn't know.

I thought that the Surgeon General was more or less a spokeperson. I still recall the big story when the Surgeon General announced that smoking tobacco will likely kill you.

What I didn't know was that the Surgeon General is in charge of a group of public health professionals who are available to assist during public health crises and a reserve group ready to be deployed in the event of a health emergency.

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/about/duties/index.html

In other words, if we had a Surgeon General, we wouldn't need an Ebola Czar.


I would also say this - my impression is that the CDC provides the science, and the Surgeon General implements it.

"
Opinion: The Truly Ridiculous Reason the U.S. Has No Surgeon General"

This last fact is important today because of the inexcusable circumstances that led to the United States having no surgeon general in place to calm the recent national hysteria about Ebola. In a move that may well be unprecedented, Senate Republicans and assorted Democratic lickspittles have blocked President Barack Obama’s selection for surgeon general—no, not a judgeship or a Cabinet position or an appointment that involves actual governmental power—because the nominee, Dr. Vivek Murthy, made a statement mildly critical of guns."

http://www.newsweek.com/2014/11/07/opinion-warning-tweeting-about-guns-can-keep-you-out-public-service-280804.html

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hlthe2b

(102,150 posts)
2. Technically yes-- but the public health service commissioned corps are already engaged via their
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 01:23 PM
Oct 2014

attachment to major health agencies, especially CDC and NIH. All that is ongoing with or without a SG, but I do believe the office should have been filled long ago.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
3. I think the problem here is that someone has to be in charge -
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 01:25 PM
Oct 2014

it's hard to fight an epidemic when you're busy hiring people to answer the phones. Bureaucracies don't function well when people can't follow procedure. (and I use the term bureaucracy in a good way here - a group of people organized to respond quickly to various events.)

hlthe2b

(102,150 posts)
4. This isn't the CDC or Public Health Service's first national/international threat
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 01:28 PM
Oct 2014

they aren't sitting on their thumbs trying to answer phones.

The CDC teams deployed for immediate response here and overseas are EIS (Epidemic Intelligence Service Officers) and most of them are Public Health Service Commissioned Corps. That you don't know about them actually speaks to how well they've done their job over the past 50 plus years. http://www.cdc.gov/eis/

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
6. I apologize for being unclear in my reference.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 01:34 PM
Oct 2014
I was referring to the Ebola Czar - it's easy to appoint someone, but the guy didn't even have a desk chair to start with, let alone a desk. Hes still tying his shoes weeks after the race has started.

I have been supporting the CDC since day one, and have been angered at how many here have jumped all over the CDC as an example of government incompetence.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
10. I knew as soon as I made my post that I had been unclear -
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 01:37 PM
Oct 2014

but decided it wouldn't be proper to edit something in current discussion.

I've never seen so many replies so fast - Ebola is a very hot topic.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
11. And 65 USPHS doctors and nurses will staff the 25-bed hospital built by U.S. forces in Liberia...
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 01:41 PM
Oct 2014

...to treat foreign health care workers.


The EMEDS hospital, located near the international airport in Monrovia, is intended to treat foreign health care workers who may contract Ebola. It will be staffed by uniformed officers from the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps. The first 65 members of Rapid Deployment Force Team 2 arrived at Roberts International Airport in Monrovia, Liberia, on Oct. 27. RDF-2 was the first Public Health Service unit to deploy to the New York metro area after Hurricane Sandy closed so many hospitals.

http://www.examiner.com/article/american-military-buildup-continues-ebola-stricken-liberia

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
8. Well, Acting Surgeon General. Still, it's a nice opportunity
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 01:35 PM
Oct 2014

to denounce the Republican blockade in a way that gets people's attention.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
12. He has the exact same powers as a confirmed SG,
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 03:56 PM
Oct 2014

and his resume is quite impressive. Arguably, he's more qualified than Obama's nominee, Vivek Murthy.

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/about/biographies/biosg.html

Moreover, there are many highly qualified individuals who could easily be confirmed by the Senate for SG. Vivek Murthy has no right or entitlement to the position, and as he has no specific or unique skills concerning Ebola or epidemics, sny claim that we desperately need Mr. Murthy specifically is, at best, a red herring.

Most importantly, Mr. Murthy has not received a vote in the Senate because about 10 Democrats will not support his nomination. There are 55 Democrats (including 2 Independents in the caucus), and he needs only 50 votes to be confirmed (a tie would be broken by the vice-president). After Reid's "nuclear option," the Republicans cannot filibuster executive appointments.

If you have any complaints that Mr. Murthy has not been confirmed, you need to speak with Harry Reid.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/15/us/senate-balks-at-obama-pick-for-surgeon-general.html

hlthe2b

(102,150 posts)
13. That isn't the point at all, but...
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 03:58 PM
Oct 2014

in reality those who are temporarily acting more often than not aare mere placeholders. They don't initiate new policy or forge new direction, but merely "hold the course" to the extent possible.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
14. Maybe true, but as I point out in my prior post,
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 04:10 PM
Oct 2014

we can easily find and confirm a highly qualified SG with experience with epidemics. There's nothing special about Mr. Murthy, and if we need a SG so desperately to fight Ebola, he is an impediment.

Mr. Murthy's lack of confirmation is also due to our party, although the Republicans are certainly benefiting from our discomfort and lack of unity.

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