Kirk Cameron denounced as ‘pagan’ and ‘papist’ for encouraging celebration of Halloween

[KamaAina]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/kirk-cameron-denounced-as-pagan-and-papist-for-encouraging-celebration-of-halloween/

The Christian News Network reports that Kirk Cameron is coming under fire from other evangelical priests for his claim that Halloween is a holiday that Christians should take back from the pagans....

Cameron further claimed that the holiday entailed Christians dressing up “in costumes as the devil, ghosts, goblins and witches precisely to make the point that those things were defeated and overthrown by the resurrected Jesus Christ. The costumes poke fun at the fact that the devil and other evils were publicly humiliated by Christ at His resurrection. That’s what the Scriptures say, that He publicly humiliated the devil when He triumphed over power and principality and put them under his feet.”...

But Mike Gendron, of ProclaimingtheGospel.org, told Christian News Network that Cameron is gravely mistaken, because historically the rituals of Halloween are connected to the “pagan” practices of Roman Catholicism, and are therefore not consonant with biblical Christianity.

“The two faiths are diametrically opposed to one another,” Gendron said. “I strongly disagree with Kirk Cameron and would encourage him to avoid celebrating anything that has to do with the pagan practices of the apostate Roman Catholic Church.”

[Ex Lurker]

1. They're like a bucket of crabs

when one of them displays a little common sense a starts to crawl out of the bucket, the others grab him and pull him back down.

[LiberalElite]

2. It's hard to know where to begin -

this is so fkd up confused and ignorant.

[JHB]

9. Begin by waving it in the face of every catholic you can find

"When these guys talk about 'Christian', they do not include you! They think you're a devil worshipper. If they ever rammed gays back into the closet and women back into the kitchen sans footwear, they'd go right back to railing against 'the whore of Babylon' in every sermon."

[LiberalElite]

10. They do it now anyway. nt

[malthaussen]

3. A pagan papist! That's novel.

Think Mr Gendron is confusing "idolators" with "pagans."

-- Mal

[Warren DeMontague]

13. Well, not really.

I mean a tremendous amount of pagan beliefs, rituals, etc were assimilated into the Catholic Church, as well as the larger body of Christianity, in the process of trying to convince large swaths of the Earth to convert to Monotheism.

To believe otherwise is to think that Bunnies and Eggs have anything to do with Jesus, for instance.

[malthaussen]

15. Yes, of course.

But the standard rap of Protestants against the Papists was Idolatry. The fact that the Church appropriated the pagan holidays doesn't make the Church pagan, and it's not a charge I've seen outside of this guy's twisted mind.

My brother and I went to a Catholic retreat once (his idea, he was trying to make nice with his father-in-law). It was held in a school that the Catholics had grafted onto an ancient Indian sacred site, and they were bragging about the strong spiritual power of the area and the "miracles" which had occurred there -- all of which would doubtless be due to the genius of the locale, and not the grafting of the One True Religion onto the "pagan" site. (if you believe in that sort of thing, of course) The Church was good at that crap.

-- Mal

[Warren DeMontague]

22. If you can't beat em, eat em!

...or something like that.

Beyond that, though, re: Kirk Cameron etc.... if the crazy fundies want to have a circular firing squad, I aint gonna get in the way.

[Dont call me Shirley]

4. Somebody doesn't know their history....

[arcane1]

5. Roman Catholicism is like Reagan to them: there was no history before that.

[LeftInTX]

6. Maybe they should have stake burning sessions

On October 31st while Kirk Cameron is urging people to celebrate Halloween, our ministry will be encouraging people to remember the Reformers who were brutally tortured, murdered and burned at the stake by the Roman Catholic Church for defending the Gospel of Jesus Christ.”

[Jenoch]

7. When I was a kid,

the Lutheran church my family attended had services on All Saints' Eve.

[shenmue]

8. There are no evangelical 'priests'

They don't call them that. Generally the only Christians who refer to clergy as priests are Catholics, Orthodox, and some Anglicans and Lutherans.

[gratuitous]

11. That stuck out at me, too

Evangelicals might call their leaders pastors or ministers or elders, but not priests. It's weird, though, seeing them throw brickbats at Bibleman himself. "Celebrity" converts are particularly prized by the folks who claim they are set apart, not worldly, and not interested in the trappings of secular society.

[Bluenorthwest]

16. They'd take offense at the title in fact.....

nt

[louis-t]

12. When you lie down with dogs....

etcetera, etcetera....

[joeybee12]

14. Stupid being mad at stupid...

Amazing.

[Initech]

17. I take it this woman was the reporter calling out Kirk Cameron:

[Dawson Leery]

18. Nothing better than an war between the funditaliban.

[frylock]

19. STONE HIM!!!12

[sakabatou]

20. Kirk is such a schill

[Historic NY]

21. Papist...he's a Fundy.