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James Chao, father of Mitch McConnells wife Elaine, has a lot of questions to answer after 40 kilograms of cocaine (about $6.7 million worth) was found on the Ping May, a ship owned by the Foremost Group, a company James Chao founded and led to a tidy fortune. But was that fortune built on honest movement of legitimate bulk trade goods, or has Mr. Chao been trading in less than legal goods?
The cocaine, found in 40 separate packages, was discovered during a routine inspection hidden among a load of coal bound for Europe from the port of Santa Marta, Columbia onboard the Ping May, one of 15 ships Foremost currently operates, with another 8 under construction. The final destination for the ship was to be the Netherlands, likely one of the port cities surrounding Amsterdam. It is known that the Ping May has been witnessed at the port of Zaanstad, one of these cities, in the past.
Foremost Group is the source of most of Senator McConnells fortune through gifts and inheritance from his in-laws. It is a shadowy corporation, utilizing a complex scheme of shell companies to skip out on millions in taxes annually.
They fly their ships under the flag of Liberia, a west African nation known for its lax labor protections, allowing Foremost the opportunity to exploit its ships workforce with little fear of recrimination. However, this status as an employer-friendly anti-labor nation also allowed western African nations, such as Liberia, to become one of the epicenters for drug smuggling through legitimate channels. By working to extract every red cent of profit at the cost of the laborers who make their fortunes possible, Foremost may have sewn the seeds of its own downfall.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/10/31/mcconnell-cocaine/
Author: Nathaniel Downes October 31, 2014 1:30 pm
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)it's a ship, which creates a lot of distance from the owner visavis smuggling contraband on board.
I hoped this would be a whole lot more interesting, i.e. an immediate problem for McConnell.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)This comes across as a last-ditch desperation move.
pscot
(21,024 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)(And, yes, that is actually pretty important.)
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)bobclark86
(1,415 posts)If by boat we mean bulk carrier with a deadweight of 178,000 tons and a deck that could play three NFL football games at a time, then yes, a boat.
nikto
(3,284 posts)That makes it ok, then.
Whew!
Dodged a bullet on that one.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Small boat, big story. Not "OK", but way too removed from McTurtle to pin anything on him that could possibly stick.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)csziggy
(34,133 posts)From the OP:
marble falls
(57,060 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)and see who it leads too!
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)PatrickforO
(14,566 posts)it seems like we need to get some more facts here. Just because the drugs were on a guy's boat does not necessarily mean that he knew or was involved in any way.
My beef is actually with the forfeiture laws, which are blatantly unconstitutional. If this guy wasn't a US Senator's father in law, you can bet the DEA would seize his entire fleet and freeze all his other assets. Then, because they do it under CIVIL law, the onus of proof would be on Chao. With no money and frozen assets, he would have to prove his property wasn't knowingly used in the commission of a crime.
That said, my guess is the Chao probably didn't know about it.
George II
(67,782 posts)...I disagree somewhat.
The ship, registered in Liberia, was leaving Colombia bound for the Netherlands. Even though the parent company is located in NYC, I don't think US forfeiture laws or the US Constitution apply here.
Also, this incident happened in August. I don't know why it took two months for it to come out.
Strange story indeed. Here is the report from The Nation:
http://www.thenation.com/article/186689/mitch-mcconnells-freighted-ties-shadowy-shipping-company?page=full
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Even if they sat on it for a few weeks for political effect it is still current and relevant to the race. If Mitch's father in law is also one of his main financial backer's then he is certainly open to public scrutiny. McConnell has been a hard line antidrug crusader his whole political career and he should address it. I would have made it public much earlier if I had the information as it may be too late to have much effect.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)ut oh
(893 posts)seems to have gotten into that stash somehow...
rgbecker
(4,823 posts)Best connecting of dots so far this century.
Thanks Spitfire!
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)that should be answered. As you point out, Chao is going to need to explain in terms that a jury will believe just how that cocaine got on a boat owned by his company.
While this may or may not suggest that McConnell and Chao are or have been involved in cocaine trafficking, it certainly raises questions about how carefully Chao's business is run, how careful he is to make sure that he and his company and employees are obeying the law.
The tax avoidance by a senator's father-in-law raises questions about the patriotism, honesty and ethics of the senator in question. Birds of a feather flock together.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I really think this is some small-timer operation which used this ship simply becuase a gu knew a guy on the crew of this one instead of hte next one at the port, nothing more.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)onecent
(6,096 posts)"Just because the drugs were on a guy's boat does not necessarily mean that he knew or was involved in any way."
WHAT THE HELL are you smokin??????? Yeah I was holding it for my buddy.....
6 MILLION??????????????? BWWAAAAAAAAAA
Hugin
(33,104 posts)Coal is what? $0.50 a ton?
Alittleliberal
(528 posts)Also I don't care where you are 40 keys of blow doesn't cost 6.7 millions dollars. It doesn't even cost that much at street value. Wholesale blow costs maybe 30g a kg which would put the cost at about 1.2 million.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Nice try! No really...nice try!
Alittleliberal
(528 posts)You could almost fit 90lbs in a suitcase...
Rex
(65,616 posts)You can try all day long, it won't matter. Most people know that is a dealer level amount of coke.
Alittleliberal
(528 posts)No matter how many times you try to claim it is. Coke is a big game homie. That shit gets shipped up 1000 lbs at a time. Not 90.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Please, go on with your bad self, this apologizing for the Mitch Family is amazingly funny to watch!
Alittleliberal
(528 posts)Just getting facts in. No one is going to risk there business over barely over a million in product. The money it takes to buy off officials to get a shipment out of one country and into another would be well over that. 90lbs is a very small amount of blow when it comes to trafficking. It would be easy to hide it on a large ship without the knowledge of the ships owner.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Try as they might.
Alittleliberal
(528 posts)And you would never know.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Alittleliberal
(528 posts)????
Rex
(65,616 posts)Do you know anything about drugs? Doesn't seem like it.
scarystuffyo
(733 posts)nikto
(3,284 posts)90 pounds of coke doesn't count---Too small an amount.
Obviously insignificant.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)Unless Mr Chao is in the habit of shipping COAL on board his YACHT.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I wonder how many times Mitch has buried his head in a pile of coke Scarface style!
Say hello to my little turtle!
PatrickforO
(14,566 posts)easy to see how someone could hide 90 lbs of something on board without the captain, and certainly without the owner knowing.
northoftheborder
(7,571 posts)Why did this just come out today?
Matariki
(18,775 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)......all 950 feet of it.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Cha
(297,029 posts)blm
(113,037 posts).
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)If you own a business (ship) and it is involved in illegal activity, you as the owner are liable for said activity.
Travelman
(708 posts)If some passenger on a JetBlue flight is found to have a bunch of meth in his suitcase, does that somehow make Jeff Barger a drug trafficker?
Ludicrous.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)And none of it good.
homegirl
(1,427 posts)Does anyone now how McConnell's first marriage ended? Was he a widower or a divorced man when he married Miss Chao?
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)librechik
(30,674 posts)too ad it's not Mitc or Mrs.Mitch themselves., sigh.
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)Blue Owl
(50,325 posts)n/t
freshwest
(53,661 posts)karynnj
(59,500 posts)How patriotic!
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)It's your turn turtle boy.
JEB
(4,748 posts)Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)I have long suspected that the reason why certain substances are illegal is because they provide profit opportunities for the select elite who are above the law. Wonder who he forgot to pay off, that he got caught?
Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)his father-in-law has been to Liberia! Wouldn't that be ironically sweet! I can dream.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)funds being sent to McTurtle for his campaign, from James Chao?
Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)his wife's dad. I am sure he has feathered his nest while in office as well.
riversedge
(70,177 posts)TBF
(32,029 posts)executives/owners are very good at blaming underlings.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)sammy750
(165 posts)And they were funding McConnell elections for decades. McConnell winning elections on drug money.
Blue Owl
(50,325 posts)n/t
PeteSelman
(1,508 posts)These are some really old people, I can't imagine they have anything to do with the day to day operations of the ships.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)That might make her father younger than a turtle, say?
The thing about the story, the father in law owns a fleet of "capesize container" ships too big for the Panama and Suez canals. Perhaps the drugs are some corrupt officer or seaman's.
http://louisvillecourant.blogspot.com/2014/08/how-many-ships-are-in-mitch-mcconnells.html
On the other hand, going by his voting record alone, yeah, Mitch is a crook.
MADem
(135,425 posts)If he was a young dad, he could be in his late seventies. He keeps his age under his hat.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)UTUSN
(70,671 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)After drugs were found aboard the Ping May, a vessel owned by his wifes familys company, Colombian authorities are investigating.
by Lee Fang
The Nation, October 30, 2014
Before the Ping May, a rusty cargo vessel, could disembark from the port of Santa Marta en route to the Netherlands in late August, Colombian inspectors boarded the boat and made a discovery. Hidden in the ships chain locker, amidst its load of coal bound for Europe, were approximately 40 kilograms, or about ninety pounds, of cocaine. A Colombian Coast Guard official told The Nation that there is an ongoing investigation.
The seizure of the narcotics shipment in the Caribbean port occurred far away from Kentucky, the state in which Senator Mitch McConnell is now facing a career-defining election. But the Republican Senate minority leader has the closest of ties to the owner of the Ping May, the vessel containing the illicit materials: the Foremost Maritime Corporation, a firm founded and owned by McConnells in-laws, the Chao family.
Though Foremost has played a pivotal role in McConnells life, bestowing the senator with most of his personal wealth and generating thousands in donations to his campaign committees, the drug bust went unnoticed in Kentucky, where every bit of McConnell-related news has generated fodder for the campaign trail. Thats because, like many international shipping companies, Chaos firm is shrouded from public view, concealing its identity and limiting its legal liability through an array of tax shelters and foreign registrations. Registered through a limited liability company in the Marshall Islands, the Ping May flies the Liberian flag.
McConnells ties to the Chaos go back to the late 1980s, when James Chao began donating to the senator. In 1993, McConnell married Jamess daughter, Elaine Chao, a Republican activist and former Reagan administration official who would later serve as secretary of labor in the George W. Bush cabinet. James Chao emigrated to the United States from Taiwan, and founded the Foremost Maritime Corporation upon settling in New York. The company has grown significantly over the years, from acting as maritime agent during the Vietnam War to controlling a fleet of approximately sixteen dry-bulk cargo ships in operation today.
Foremost acts as a shipping agent, purchasing vessels made primarily in China and coordinating shipment of commodities. Records reviewed by The Nation reveal that Foremost transports corn, chemicals and other goods to cities throughout the world. The company has offices in New York and Hong Kong.
Some of the goods shipped by Foremost echo themes of the McConnell campaign. At a Young Professionals Association of Louisville event this month, McConnell stressed his opposition to carbon dioxide limits imposed by the federal government that would impact the domestic coal market. He argued that such efforts would be fruitless given the role of coal in developing countries and the rising coal trade. Foremost ships routinely transport coal from ports in Australia and Colombia, countries with cheap coal, for export to Asia and Europe.
CONTINUED...
http://www.thenation.com/article/186689/mitch-mcconnells-freighted-ties-shadowy-shipping-company#
If Kentucky were to learn this stuff, it would sink Mitch.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Someone's coke straw just fell out of their nose...
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Orrex
(63,185 posts)Then only outlaws will transport 40kg of cocaine on their boats.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)ClassyCaptain
(6 posts)Volaris
(10,269 posts)has a father-in-law that's enough of a dick to IMPORT the stuff.
Is AMERICAN COAL not good enough?
Why does he hate America, Mitch?
WHY?
In all seriousness though, people generally tend to think the worst of politicians, even if they are willing to support them with their vote. If the voters in his State decide he's even DISTANTLY related to this, (which, actually, HE IS) he's FINISHED, even among his supporters.
Yesterday, this was a tight race. Now I think Grimes has this LOCKED.
Midnight Writer
(21,733 posts)It doesn't matter if the owner was aware of the drugs. The property (in this case, the ship) is subject to confiscation.
In my neighborhood, a landlord lost an apartment building because a tenant was selling drugs out of his apartment. The landlord was not charged and never accused of knowledge of the drugs, but he still lost his apartment building.
There was another case in Florida in which an elderly couple lost their property because a drug smuggler had used an old dock on their oceanside property to offload a shipment of drugs. The couple were not accused of any wrongdoing, but tough luck for them.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)We think this is something, pathetic, look, a huge ass ship, gotcha Mitchy!! This story means nada!
MoonchildCA
(1,301 posts)How much Ebola was on board?
bearssoapbox
(1,408 posts)If President is a terrorist, according to the Snowbilly Grifter Palin and other reTHUGS, for palling around with terrorists, is McTurtle a drug dealer by the same reasoning?
CanonRay
(14,093 posts)Balzac...and he was spot on.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)To the Mitch campaign?
True Blue Door
(2,969 posts)If the shipping company were in the smuggling business, it would be barrels full - hundreds or thousands of kg.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Nice try...really, nice try.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)W T F
(1,146 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)A boat may be a yacht, but a coal ship isn't either one.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)brooklynite
(94,462 posts)There are plenty of things to hate Mitch McConnell for. What someone who's related by marriage did isn't one of them.
PADemD
(4,482 posts)Snip
Some of the goods shipped by Foremost echo themes of the McConnell campaign. At a Young Professionals Association of Louisville event this month, McConnell stressed his opposition to carbon dioxide limits imposed by the federal government that would impact the domestic coal market. He argued that such efforts would be fruitless given the role of coal in developing countries and the rising coal trade. Foremost ships routinely transport coal from ports in Australia and Colombia, countries with cheap coal, for export to Asia and Europe.
CONTINUED...
http://www.thenation.com/article/186689/mitch-mcconnells-freighted-ties-shadowy-shipping-company#
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)marble falls
(57,060 posts)nothing to do with him and sort of resembles the way Teapublicans try to splash mud.
It is legitimate news, no doubt, otherwise. It does beg a question about what James Chao knows about this.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)marble falls
(57,060 posts)lord thing or that Chao was in on the drug running. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have it be true that McConnell smuggles drugs, but its a long stretch from what this article says.
This is about Chao:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_S.C._Chao
44 kilos sounds like a crew member.
santamargarita
(3,170 posts)If this were associated with Democrats in some way, it would be big nooz all over the media.
But since it involves a GOPer?
Nothing to see here, move on.
woodsprite
(11,908 posts)Guess that's one thing he told the truth about. He just forgot the pesky fact that it was illegal money.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)That would be awesome!
supercats
(429 posts)rocktivity
(44,573 posts)and just in time for my son-in-law's Election Day!"
rocktivity
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)...it's the CIAs cocaine.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)CNN, Faux, M$RNC et al would be going on for days about it.