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PADemD

(4,482 posts)
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 07:11 PM Oct 2014

40kg Of Cocaine Found On Mitch McConnell’s Father-In-Law’s Boat

James Chao, father of Mitch McConnell’s wife Elaine, has a lot of questions to answer after 40 kilograms of cocaine (about $6.7 million worth) was found on the Ping May, a ship owned by the Foremost Group, a company James Chao founded and led to a tidy fortune. But was that fortune built on honest movement of legitimate bulk trade goods, or has Mr. Chao been trading in less than legal goods?

The cocaine, found in 40 separate packages, was discovered during a routine inspection hidden among a load of coal bound for Europe from the port of Santa Marta, Columbia onboard the Ping May, one of 15 ships Foremost currently operates, with another 8 under construction. The final destination for the ship was to be the Netherlands, likely one of the port cities surrounding Amsterdam. It is known that the Ping May has been witnessed at the port of Zaanstad, one of these cities, in the past.

Foremost Group is the source of most of Senator McConnell’s fortune through gifts and inheritance from his in-laws. It is a shadowy corporation, utilizing a complex scheme of shell companies to skip out on millions in taxes annually.

They fly their ships under the flag of Liberia, a west African nation known for its lax labor protections, allowing Foremost the opportunity to exploit its ships’ workforce with little fear of recrimination. However, this status as an employer-friendly anti-labor nation also allowed western African nations, such as Liberia, to become one of the epicenters for drug smuggling through legitimate channels. By working to extract every red cent of profit at the cost of the laborers who make their fortunes possible, Foremost may have sewn the seeds of its own downfall.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/10/31/mcconnell-cocaine/
Author: Nathaniel Downes October 31, 2014 1:30 pm

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40kg Of Cocaine Found On Mitch McConnell’s Father-In-Law’s Boat (Original Post) PADemD Oct 2014 OP
That's not a "boat" as the title indicates, truebluegreen Oct 2014 #1
Yeah I was expecting to read about it on his yacht LittleBlue Oct 2014 #3
Still, it is his boat. pscot Oct 2014 #7
It's not a boat, is the point. It's a ship Recursion Nov 2014 #116
This ship: ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2014 #29
That's not a boat bobclark86 Nov 2014 #68
Thank goodness it is a large ship! nikto Nov 2014 #98
Large ship, small story customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #110
Has that company donated drug money to Mitch campaign? JaneyVee Nov 2014 #59
That is the main source of McConnell's money csziggy Nov 2014 #70
Just like any other offshore flagged ship moving contraband or not. marble falls Nov 2014 #106
Wow! Outstanding read. BIG K&R riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #2
Follow the money, yortsed snacilbuper Oct 2014 #4
Is he sure he brought enough for everybody? ThoughtCriminal Oct 2014 #5
I'm not a Mitch McConnell fan by any means, but PatrickforO Oct 2014 #6
I'm not a McConnell fan either, but.... George II Oct 2014 #27
It probably took some time to connect all the dots in the ship's registry to McConnell. bluedigger Oct 2014 #40
Liberia is where there's Ebola,...so that links McConnell to Ebola.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #42
So Beeker.... ut oh Nov 2014 #51
Liberiagazi! rgbecker Nov 2014 #60
Whether Chao's company has a side business dealing in cocaine is a question JDPriestly Nov 2014 #46
At just 90 pounds, I would be inclined to say no. Scootaloo Nov 2014 #53
Expect to see a claim that it was a setup to swing the election. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #112
YOUR GUESS??????? OMG now I have heard it all!!!! and I QUOTE? onecent Nov 2014 #55
I'd think that 90 lbs was worth at least as much as the rest of the "freight"on that ship. n/t Hugin Nov 2014 #62
Idk those ships can hold 10s of millions of dollars Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #81
Your halloween mask is slipping. nt valerief Nov 2014 #66
How do you not know there in 90 pounds of blow on your yacht!? Rex Nov 2014 #71
Do you know how much space a pound of coke takes up? Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #82
I'm sorry, but no sane person will ever believe 90 pounds of coke is unnote worthy. Rex Nov 2014 #83
It's not an international trafficking level of coke Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #84
Who said anything about international trafficking, is that how desperate you are now!? Rex Nov 2014 #85
I'm not apologizing for the family Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #86
Nobody is going to ride around with 90 pound of coke in their ship and not know it. Rex Nov 2014 #87
I could hide that much coke in your car Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #88
Of course I would, that is nonsense. Rex Nov 2014 #89
How often do you pull your dashboard off? Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #90
You would smell 90 pounds of coke in a car. Rex Nov 2014 #91
Sounds like it's a crew member that had some side deals going on scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #111
90 lbs of coke? Chump change nikto Nov 2014 #99
Who said anything about a "yacht?" It's a SHIP. truebluegreen Nov 2014 #92
Sorry, ship. He has a ship with a lot of blow on it. Rex Nov 2014 #95
Not a yacht. It is a freighter, and if you look at some pics of freighters nowadays, it is quite PatrickforO Nov 2014 #113
I didn't think the Turtle could be any slimier. northoftheborder Oct 2014 #8
Going for the Meth Head vote? Matariki Nov 2014 #75
Nice cozy boat......... TheCowsCameHome Oct 2014 #9
Its an old crusty scowl like mitch.. Historic NY Oct 2014 #10
That's a BOAT alright.. wow.. thanks for the link, Historic NY Cha Nov 2014 #50
Yep - This is typical of the BFEE. blm Oct 2014 #11
I disagree TNNurse Oct 2014 #12
For an entire shipping company? How ridiculous. Travelman Nov 2014 #67
If it was cargo, I disagree with you. TNNurse Nov 2014 #79
McTurtle sure has been in the news lately. SmittynMo Oct 2014 #13
Second wife Miss Chao homegirl Nov 2014 #65
Divorced man. nt Raine1967 Nov 2014 #73
Quick, call Rachel, Wolf, and HANNITY!!!! nt kelliekat44 Oct 2014 #14
October Surprise? librechik Oct 2014 #15
So it really is the Coke Brothers who are paying his bills!!! OldRedneck Oct 2014 #16
Those turtles and their beaks... Blue Owl Oct 2014 #34
Yes it is! freshwest Nov 2014 #44
One thing the dad could not say was not him --- the ships fly under the Liberian flag! karynnj Oct 2014 #17
So the guys ships are registered in Liberia, the centre of the ebola fear.....interesting. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #18
Mitch sure looks like he's on something! Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2014 #19
Random piss test ahead SmittynMo Oct 2014 #22
Corruption junkie. JEB Nov 2014 #114
Very interesting Man from Pickens Oct 2014 #20
Mitch's campaign and lifestyle funded by drugs! Ha ha! I think Mitch needs to be quaranteened, Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #21
Isn't there an issue with.... SmittynMo Oct 2014 #23
This is the first I heard about his wife's side of the family. I had no idea he got his money from Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #24
ah yes--it would be a lovely SWEET dream riversedge Oct 2014 #26
He'll blame whomever was staffing the boat - TBF Oct 2014 #25
Liberia? EBOLA!!!!!! wyldwolf Oct 2014 #28
Amateur... Glassunion Oct 2014 #30
Proof of McConnell being a crook. sammy750 Oct 2014 #31
Ever ride the white turtle? Blue Owl Oct 2014 #32
Too funny. salib Nov 2014 #64
Turtleman is like 75, how frigging old is his father-in-law ? PeteSelman Oct 2014 #33
Perhaps his wife, she is young? Octafish Oct 2014 #36
Probably in his early eighties--Elaine (oldest of 6 daughters) is only 61. MADem Nov 2014 #54
She was born in 1953. nt. Raine1967 Nov 2014 #76
R#84 & k for, well I'll kick this!1 n/t UTUSN Oct 2014 #35
The Nation has the story: Mitch is BFEE Pals with Corrupt Elite of Red China Octafish Oct 2014 #39
Uh oh... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #37
Ya know, cocaine is one hell of a drug SmittynMo Nov 2014 #56
When transporting 40kg of cocaine on your boat is outlawed Orrex Oct 2014 #38
Mr. Chao, I volunteer to get rid of this 90 pounds of cocaine for you... (nt) Recursion Nov 2014 #117
We're gonna need a bigger boat ClassyCaptain Oct 2014 #41
I want to know why the Senator from the State of Kentucky (GO USA COAL!!!!!!)... Volaris Nov 2014 #43
Under our drug-forfeiture laws Midnight Writer Nov 2014 #45
Keep on muckraking, y'all! Spread this far and wide. =) nt AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #47
This is why we lose. Puzzledtraveller Nov 2014 #48
Who cares about cocaine? MoonchildCA Nov 2014 #49
Guilt by association. bearssoapbox Nov 2014 #52
"Behind every great fortune lies a great crime" CanonRay Nov 2014 #57
How much of that drug money has been funneled... JaneyVee Nov 2014 #58
On a boat that size, 40kg = a crew member did it. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #61
90 pounds of blow is worth a lot of money, nice try and playing this down. Rex Nov 2014 #72
I have not heard anything about this at all in the MSM...on hold till next Wednesday? NorthCarolina Nov 2014 #63
Well at least we know who Mitch's campaign contributor is. W T F Nov 2014 #69
I Love watching 'posters' try and play this down! Your halloween mask is slipping! Rex Nov 2014 #74
Reading comprehension in your friend. truebluegreen Nov 2014 #94
Ahem. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #101
UNREC brooklynite Nov 2014 #77
Foremost has played a pivotal role in McConnell’s life PADemD Nov 2014 #78
Hahahaha! Yeah, okay. "Foremost Group is the source of most of Senator McConnell’s fortune...." WinkyDink Nov 2014 #102
As much as I loath Sen Ertle McTurtle and look forward to him losing on Tuesday, this article has... marble falls Nov 2014 #80
"Foremost Group is the source of most of Senator McConnell’s fortune...." Do you think he's naive? WinkyDink Nov 2014 #103
That's a stretch. McConnell's a goofball and its been shown any number of times. Prove the drug.... marble falls Nov 2014 #105
Where is the citizen forfeiture now? santamargarita Nov 2014 #93
IOKIYAR nikto Nov 2014 #96
Well, he said most of his wealth came to him because he married into money. woodsprite Nov 2014 #97
Gee, let's contemplate this situation....CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE. (Nobody will go to prison, though.) WinkyDink Nov 2014 #100
Can we seize Mitch's campaign money? Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #104
So, Mitch Is A Coke Head.... supercats Nov 2014 #107
What's Chinese for "Ooops -- under an Ebolan, I mean, Liberian flag rocktivity Nov 2014 #108
No worry... reACTIONary Nov 2014 #109
If Alison Grimes' third cousin twice-removed had smoked a joint in high school.... Roland99 Nov 2014 #115
 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
1. That's not a "boat" as the title indicates,
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 07:16 PM
Oct 2014

it's a ship, which creates a lot of distance from the owner visavis smuggling contraband on board.

I hoped this would be a whole lot more interesting, i.e. an immediate problem for McConnell.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
3. Yeah I was expecting to read about it on his yacht
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 07:20 PM
Oct 2014

This comes across as a last-ditch desperation move.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
68. That's not a boat
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 01:49 PM
Nov 2014

If by boat we mean bulk carrier with a deadweight of 178,000 tons and a deck that could play three NFL football games at a time, then yes, a boat.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
110. Large ship, small story
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 07:46 PM
Nov 2014

Small boat, big story. Not "OK", but way too removed from McTurtle to pin anything on him that could possibly stick.

csziggy

(34,133 posts)
70. That is the main source of McConnell's money
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 02:15 PM
Nov 2014

From the OP:

Foremost Group is the source of most of Senator McConnell’s fortune through gifts and inheritance from his in-laws. It is a shadowy corporation, utilizing a complex scheme of shell companies to skip out on millions in taxes annually.

PatrickforO

(14,566 posts)
6. I'm not a Mitch McConnell fan by any means, but
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 07:38 PM
Oct 2014

it seems like we need to get some more facts here. Just because the drugs were on a guy's boat does not necessarily mean that he knew or was involved in any way.

My beef is actually with the forfeiture laws, which are blatantly unconstitutional. If this guy wasn't a US Senator's father in law, you can bet the DEA would seize his entire fleet and freeze all his other assets. Then, because they do it under CIVIL law, the onus of proof would be on Chao. With no money and frozen assets, he would have to prove his property wasn't knowingly used in the commission of a crime.

That said, my guess is the Chao probably didn't know about it.

George II

(67,782 posts)
27. I'm not a McConnell fan either, but....
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 09:28 PM
Oct 2014

...I disagree somewhat.

The ship, registered in Liberia, was leaving Colombia bound for the Netherlands. Even though the parent company is located in NYC, I don't think US forfeiture laws or the US Constitution apply here.

Also, this incident happened in August. I don't know why it took two months for it to come out.

Strange story indeed. Here is the report from The Nation:

http://www.thenation.com/article/186689/mitch-mcconnells-freighted-ties-shadowy-shipping-company?page=full

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
40. It probably took some time to connect all the dots in the ship's registry to McConnell.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:00 PM
Oct 2014

Even if they sat on it for a few weeks for political effect it is still current and relevant to the race. If Mitch's father in law is also one of his main financial backer's then he is certainly open to public scrutiny. McConnell has been a hard line antidrug crusader his whole political career and he should address it. I would have made it public much earlier if I had the information as it may be too late to have much effect.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
46. Whether Chao's company has a side business dealing in cocaine is a question
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 02:01 AM
Nov 2014

that should be answered. As you point out, Chao is going to need to explain in terms that a jury will believe just how that cocaine got on a boat owned by his company.

While this may or may not suggest that McConnell and Chao are or have been involved in cocaine trafficking, it certainly raises questions about how carefully Chao's business is run, how careful he is to make sure that he and his company and employees are obeying the law.

The tax avoidance by a senator's father-in-law raises questions about the patriotism, honesty and ethics of the senator in question. Birds of a feather flock together.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
53. At just 90 pounds, I would be inclined to say no.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 03:59 AM
Nov 2014

I really think this is some small-timer operation which used this ship simply becuase a gu knew a guy on the crew of this one instead of hte next one at the port, nothing more.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
55. YOUR GUESS??????? OMG now I have heard it all!!!! and I QUOTE?
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 06:21 AM
Nov 2014

"Just because the drugs were on a guy's boat does not necessarily mean that he knew or was involved in any way."

WHAT THE HELL are you smokin??????? Yeah I was holding it for my buddy.....
6 MILLION??????????????? BWWAAAAAAAAAA

Hugin

(33,104 posts)
62. I'd think that 90 lbs was worth at least as much as the rest of the "freight"on that ship. n/t
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 11:29 AM
Nov 2014

Coal is what? $0.50 a ton?

Alittleliberal

(528 posts)
81. Idk those ships can hold 10s of millions of dollars
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 03:29 PM
Nov 2014

Also I don't care where you are 40 keys of blow doesn't cost 6.7 millions dollars. It doesn't even cost that much at street value. Wholesale blow costs maybe 30g a kg which would put the cost at about 1.2 million.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
71. How do you not know there in 90 pounds of blow on your yacht!?
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 02:20 PM
Nov 2014

Nice try! No really...nice try!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
83. I'm sorry, but no sane person will ever believe 90 pounds of coke is unnote worthy.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 03:34 PM
Nov 2014

You can try all day long, it won't matter. Most people know that is a dealer level amount of coke.

Alittleliberal

(528 posts)
84. It's not an international trafficking level of coke
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 03:36 PM
Nov 2014

No matter how many times you try to claim it is. Coke is a big game homie. That shit gets shipped up 1000 lbs at a time. Not 90.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
85. Who said anything about international trafficking, is that how desperate you are now!?
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 03:38 PM
Nov 2014

Please, go on with your bad self, this apologizing for the Mitch Family is amazingly funny to watch!

Alittleliberal

(528 posts)
86. I'm not apologizing for the family
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 03:41 PM
Nov 2014

Just getting facts in. No one is going to risk there business over barely over a million in product. The money it takes to buy off officials to get a shipment out of one country and into another would be well over that. 90lbs is a very small amount of blow when it comes to trafficking. It would be easy to hide it on a large ship without the knowledge of the ships owner.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
87. Nobody is going to ride around with 90 pound of coke in their ship and not know it.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 03:43 PM
Nov 2014

Try as they might.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
91. You would smell 90 pounds of coke in a car.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 03:49 PM
Nov 2014

Do you know anything about drugs? Doesn't seem like it.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
99. 90 lbs of coke? Chump change
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 05:49 PM
Nov 2014

90 pounds of coke doesn't count---Too small an amount.
Obviously insignificant.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
92. Who said anything about a "yacht?" It's a SHIP.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 04:36 PM
Nov 2014

Unless Mr Chao is in the habit of shipping COAL on board his YACHT.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
95. Sorry, ship. He has a ship with a lot of blow on it.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 04:40 PM
Nov 2014

I wonder how many times Mitch has buried his head in a pile of coke Scarface style!


Say hello to my little turtle!

PatrickforO

(14,566 posts)
113. Not a yacht. It is a freighter, and if you look at some pics of freighters nowadays, it is quite
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 01:49 PM
Nov 2014

easy to see how someone could hide 90 lbs of something on board without the captain, and certainly without the owner knowing.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
12. I disagree
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 08:02 PM
Oct 2014

If you own a business (ship) and it is involved in illegal activity, you as the owner are liable for said activity.

Travelman

(708 posts)
67. For an entire shipping company? How ridiculous.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 01:37 PM
Nov 2014

If some passenger on a JetBlue flight is found to have a bunch of meth in his suitcase, does that somehow make Jeff Barger a drug trafficker?


Ludicrous.

homegirl

(1,427 posts)
65. Second wife Miss Chao
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 12:47 PM
Nov 2014

Does anyone now how McConnell's first marriage ended? Was he a widower or a divorced man when he married Miss Chao?


karynnj

(59,500 posts)
17. One thing the dad could not say was not him --- the ships fly under the Liberian flag!
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 08:33 PM
Oct 2014

How patriotic!

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
20. Very interesting
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 09:01 PM
Oct 2014

I have long suspected that the reason why certain substances are illegal is because they provide profit opportunities for the select elite who are above the law. Wonder who he forgot to pay off, that he got caught?

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
21. Mitch's campaign and lifestyle funded by drugs! Ha ha! I think Mitch needs to be quaranteened,
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 09:02 PM
Oct 2014

his father-in-law has been to Liberia! Wouldn't that be ironically sweet! I can dream.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
24. This is the first I heard about his wife's side of the family. I had no idea he got his money from
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 09:08 PM
Oct 2014

his wife's dad. I am sure he has feathered his nest while in office as well.

TBF

(32,029 posts)
25. He'll blame whomever was staffing the boat -
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 09:08 PM
Oct 2014

executives/owners are very good at blaming underlings.

sammy750

(165 posts)
31. Proof of McConnell being a crook.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 10:11 PM
Oct 2014

And they were funding McConnell elections for decades. McConnell winning elections on drug money.

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
33. Turtleman is like 75, how frigging old is his father-in-law ?
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 10:21 PM
Oct 2014

These are some really old people, I can't imagine they have anything to do with the day to day operations of the ships.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
36. Perhaps his wife, she is young?
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 10:41 PM
Oct 2014

That might make her father younger than a turtle, say?

The thing about the story, the father in law owns a fleet of "capesize container" ships too big for the Panama and Suez canals. Perhaps the drugs are some corrupt officer or seaman's.

http://louisvillecourant.blogspot.com/2014/08/how-many-ships-are-in-mitch-mcconnells.html

On the other hand, going by his voting record alone, yeah, Mitch is a crook.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
54. Probably in his early eighties--Elaine (oldest of 6 daughters) is only 61.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 06:17 AM
Nov 2014

If he was a young dad, he could be in his late seventies. He keeps his age under his hat.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
39. The Nation has the story: Mitch is BFEE Pals with Corrupt Elite of Red China
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 10:48 PM
Oct 2014
Mitch McConnell’s Freighted Ties to a Shadowy Shipping Company

After drugs were found aboard the Ping May, a vessel owned by his wife’s family’s company, Colombian authorities are investigating.

by Lee Fang
The Nation, October 30, 2014

Before the Ping May, a rusty cargo vessel, could disembark from the port of Santa Marta en route to the Netherlands in late August, Colombian inspectors boarded the boat and made a discovery. Hidden in the ship’s chain locker, amidst its load of coal bound for Europe, were approximately 40 kilograms, or about ninety pounds, of cocaine. A Colombian Coast Guard official told The Nation that there is an ongoing investigation.

The seizure of the narcotics shipment in the Caribbean port occurred far away from Kentucky, the state in which Senator Mitch McConnell is now facing a career-defining election. But the Republican Senate minority leader has the closest of ties to the owner of the Ping May, the vessel containing the illicit materials: the Foremost Maritime Corporation, a firm founded and owned by McConnell’s in-laws, the Chao family.

Though Foremost has played a pivotal role in McConnell’s life, bestowing the senator with most of his personal wealth and generating thousands in donations to his campaign committees, the drug bust went unnoticed in Kentucky, where every bit of McConnell-related news has generated fodder for the campaign trail. That’s because, like many international shipping companies, Chao’s firm is shrouded from public view, concealing its identity and limiting its legal liability through an array of tax shelters and foreign registrations. Registered through a limited liability company in the Marshall Islands, the Ping May flies the Liberian flag.

McConnell’s ties to the Chaos go back to the late 1980s, when James Chao began donating to the senator. In 1993, McConnell married James’s daughter, Elaine Chao, a Republican activist and former Reagan administration official who would later serve as secretary of labor in the George W. Bush cabinet. James Chao emigrated to the United States from Taiwan, and founded the Foremost Maritime Corporation upon settling in New York. The company has grown significantly over the years, from acting as maritime agent during the Vietnam War to controlling a fleet of approximately sixteen dry-bulk cargo ships in operation today.

Foremost acts as a shipping agent, purchasing vessels made primarily in China and coordinating shipment of commodities. Records reviewed by The Nation reveal that Foremost transports corn, chemicals and other goods to cities throughout the world. The company has offices in New York and Hong Kong.

Some of the goods shipped by Foremost echo themes of the McConnell campaign. At a Young Professionals Association of Louisville event this month, McConnell stressed his opposition to carbon dioxide limits imposed by the federal government that would impact the domestic coal market. He argued that such efforts would be fruitless given the role of coal in developing countries and the rising coal trade. Foremost ships routinely transport coal from ports in Australia and Colombia, countries with cheap coal, for export to Asia and Europe.

CONTINUED...

http://www.thenation.com/article/186689/mitch-mcconnells-freighted-ties-shadowy-shipping-company#

If Kentucky were to learn this stuff, it would sink Mitch.

Orrex

(63,185 posts)
38. When transporting 40kg of cocaine on your boat is outlawed
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 10:43 PM
Oct 2014

Then only outlaws will transport 40kg of cocaine on their boats.

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
43. I want to know why the Senator from the State of Kentucky (GO USA COAL!!!!!!)...
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 12:24 AM
Nov 2014

has a father-in-law that's enough of a dick to IMPORT the stuff.
Is AMERICAN COAL not good enough?
Why does he hate America, Mitch?
WHY?


In all seriousness though, people generally tend to think the worst of politicians, even if they are willing to support them with their vote. If the voters in his State decide he's even DISTANTLY related to this, (which, actually, HE IS) he's FINISHED, even among his supporters.

Yesterday, this was a tight race. Now I think Grimes has this LOCKED.

Midnight Writer

(21,733 posts)
45. Under our drug-forfeiture laws
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 01:41 AM
Nov 2014

It doesn't matter if the owner was aware of the drugs. The property (in this case, the ship) is subject to confiscation.

In my neighborhood, a landlord lost an apartment building because a tenant was selling drugs out of his apartment. The landlord was not charged and never accused of knowledge of the drugs, but he still lost his apartment building.

There was another case in Florida in which an elderly couple lost their property because a drug smuggler had used an old dock on their oceanside property to offload a shipment of drugs. The couple were not accused of any wrongdoing, but tough luck for them.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
48. This is why we lose.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 02:19 AM
Nov 2014

We think this is something, pathetic, look, a huge ass ship, gotcha Mitchy!! This story means nada!

bearssoapbox

(1,408 posts)
52. Guilt by association.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 03:37 AM
Nov 2014

If President is a terrorist, according to the Snowbilly Grifter Palin and other reTHUGS, for palling around with terrorists, is McTurtle a drug dealer by the same reasoning?

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
61. On a boat that size, 40kg = a crew member did it.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 11:19 AM
Nov 2014

If the shipping company were in the smuggling business, it would be barrels full - hundreds or thousands of kg.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
72. 90 pounds of blow is worth a lot of money, nice try and playing this down.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 02:22 PM
Nov 2014

Nice try...really, nice try.

brooklynite

(94,462 posts)
77. UNREC
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 02:29 PM
Nov 2014

There are plenty of things to hate Mitch McConnell for. What someone who's related by marriage did isn't one of them.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
78. Foremost has played a pivotal role in McConnell’s life
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 02:45 PM
Nov 2014
Though Foremost has played a pivotal role in McConnell’s life, bestowing the senator with most of his personal wealth and generating thousands in donations to his campaign committees, the drug bust went unnoticed in Kentucky, where every bit of McConnell-related news has generated fodder for the campaign trail. That’s because, like many international shipping companies, Chao’s firm is shrouded from public view, concealing its identity and limiting its legal liability through an array of tax shelters and foreign registrations. Registered through a limited liability company in the Marshall Islands, the Ping May flies the Liberian flag.

Snip

Some of the goods shipped by Foremost echo themes of the McConnell campaign. At a Young Professionals Association of Louisville event this month, McConnell stressed his opposition to carbon dioxide limits imposed by the federal government that would impact the domestic coal market. He argued that such efforts would be fruitless given the role of coal in developing countries and the rising coal trade. Foremost ships routinely transport coal from ports in Australia and Colombia, countries with cheap coal, for export to Asia and Europe.

CONTINUED...

http://www.thenation.com/article/186689/mitch-mcconnells-freighted-ties-shadowy-shipping-company#
 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
102. Hahahaha! Yeah, okay. "Foremost Group is the source of most of Senator McConnell’s fortune...."
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 05:51 PM
Nov 2014

marble falls

(57,060 posts)
80. As much as I loath Sen Ertle McTurtle and look forward to him losing on Tuesday, this article has...
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 03:25 PM
Nov 2014

nothing to do with him and sort of resembles the way Teapublicans try to splash mud.

It is legitimate news, no doubt, otherwise. It does beg a question about what James Chao knows about this.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
103. "Foremost Group is the source of most of Senator McConnell’s fortune...." Do you think he's naive?
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 05:53 PM
Nov 2014

marble falls

(57,060 posts)
105. That's a stretch. McConnell's a goofball and its been shown any number of times. Prove the drug....
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 06:06 PM
Nov 2014

lord thing or that Chao was in on the drug running. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have it be true that McConnell smuggles drugs, but its a long stretch from what this article says.

This is about Chao:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_S.C._Chao

44 kilos sounds like a crew member.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
96. IOKIYAR
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 05:13 PM
Nov 2014

If this were associated with Democrats in some way, it would be big nooz all over the media.

But since it involves a GOPer?

Nothing to see here, move on.

woodsprite

(11,908 posts)
97. Well, he said most of his wealth came to him because he married into money.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 05:24 PM
Nov 2014

Guess that's one thing he told the truth about. He just forgot the pesky fact that it was illegal money.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
100. Gee, let's contemplate this situation....CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE. (Nobody will go to prison, though.)
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 05:49 PM
Nov 2014

rocktivity

(44,573 posts)
108. What's Chinese for "Ooops -- under an Ebolan, I mean, Liberian flag
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 06:45 PM
Nov 2014

and just in time for my son-in-law's Election Day!"


rocktivity

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
115. If Alison Grimes' third cousin twice-removed had smoked a joint in high school....
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 11:52 PM
Nov 2014

CNN, Faux, M$RNC et al would be going on for days about it.

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