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kentuck

(111,079 posts)
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 07:41 PM Nov 2014

I think Democrats are going to do much better than expected in the mid-term elections.

Because Republicans that are favored are all within the margin of error, according to the polls. And they continue with their negative campaigning and there seems to be a sense of desperation in some of their races. There's a bit of nervousness in their supporters.

Also, there is quite a bit of enthusiasm in some of the races with women candidates and this is contagious in some of the neighboring states, for example, Mary Burke in Wisconsin, Michelle Nunn in Georgia, Alison Lundergan Grimes in Kentucky, and Kay Hagan in NC. I would not be surprised to see all these women win their race. And I believe their enthusiasm will cross borders and help other Democrats.

That may be an odd theory but I believe that will be the major reason Democrats will do better than expected.

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I think Democrats are going to do much better than expected in the mid-term elections. (Original Post) kentuck Nov 2014 OP
Me too Populist_Prole Nov 2014 #1
Campaigning as Republican Lite is asking to FAIL Electric Monk Nov 2014 #2
TJ served as Minister to France. Brigid Nov 2014 #4
Yep. We should be warning all that the thieving Republicans will take your savings just like last The Wielding Truth Nov 2014 #36
But which is the Republican Lite.. kentuck Nov 2014 #38
It is getting harder to tell in many cases isn't it? n/t A Simple Game Nov 2014 #77
We had a Democratic congressman in Idaho running for reelection in 2010. brewens Nov 2014 #75
If I hear "voted with Obama 97% of the time" Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #3
Was Begich able to counter those phrases and destroy the repub? BillZBubb Nov 2014 #6
Mark was outstanding in the debate, Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #21
Why is working with the President supposedly a bad thing? BlueStater Nov 2014 #23
I always want the moderators to say something like Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #40
"and I'd work with Democrats, too." Oh yeah, THAT'S rich. calimary Nov 2014 #91
Yes, that was roughly my reaction. Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #92
I had a pollster call with very leading questions to that effect csziggy Nov 2014 #7
It seems like every Dem was the deciding vote on obamacare IronLionZion Nov 2014 #37
I agree with you. We are quietly winning the ground game. Why would you go out of your way to brag corkhead Nov 2014 #5
GOtV vadermike Nov 2014 #8
A vote for Mitch is a vote for Ebola. kiri Nov 2014 #41
Tues will be a letdown... caber09 Nov 2014 #9
CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE YOUR DEBBIE DOWNERISM SOMEWHERE ELSE !! ENOUGH DAMN IT !! RBInMaine Nov 2014 #11
Des Moines Register has Ernst up 7 points.... caber09 Nov 2014 #22
That poll is an outlier. Other polls show very close race emulatorloo Nov 2014 #89
i haven't seen anything remotely positive about Ernst on Daily Kos noiretextatique Nov 2014 #90
Personally, I am interested in facts and in the truth. Laelth Nov 2014 #64
Wow, it's just a post on DU why do you let it get to you? Or, WHY DO YOU LET IT GET TO YOU? n/t A Simple Game Nov 2014 #78
Good ole Eeyore, munching on thistles again. Take a break. nt Hekate Nov 2014 #15
We've ALSO heard while working about GOTV efforts, only to be blown away by the turnout mahina Nov 2014 #33
Absentee voting is up 9% over 2010 in Detroit. That has Rick The Dictator Snyder's people catbyte Nov 2014 #68
I agree. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #10
This is NOT 2010. These are CLOSE races. We can hold our own with good TURNOUT ! RBInMaine Nov 2014 #12
That's exactly what it takes... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #80
I have never seen a GOTV effort like this year gollygee Nov 2014 #13
I am cautiously optimistic. progressoid Nov 2014 #14
I do too. femmocrat Nov 2014 #16
From your mouth to God's ear... LibinMo Nov 2014 #17
Thanks, Kentuck. So much nicer to read a positive post than the usual doomsayers. nt Hekate Nov 2014 #18
R#14 & K n/t UTUSN Nov 2014 #19
I'd really like to believe that. BlueStater Nov 2014 #20
Agreed, not good.... caber09 Nov 2014 #24
Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #51
This is a discussion board Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #61
The Comments on CNN are ALWAYS like that demwing Nov 2014 #50
Mood, or troll infestation? Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #87
I can only hope that my vote makes this true. blackspade Nov 2014 #25
I never watch FOX news...are they claiming that GOP will win big? RichGirl Nov 2014 #26
As Bill Maher said, pretty said they'll stand for hours at Walmart on Black Friday but not to vote. RBInMaine Nov 2014 #28
I so hope you're right! lexington filly Nov 2014 #27
What is "better than expected" mean to you? BKH70041 Nov 2014 #29
Yep. mahina Nov 2014 #34
Wish I had any hope.....preparing for more quality Governing by Walker. yourout Nov 2014 #30
The Republicans are slowly becoming obsolete. Even if they "win" the midterms they are going to still_one Nov 2014 #31
Best comment here, IMO C Moon Nov 2014 #83
Big election there should be 2020 sobenji Nov 2014 #39
We have to have the Govenors chair by then which means 2018. We are not getting the house back... yourout Nov 2014 #45
I rather agree... kentuck Nov 2014 #46
The long game is something the Republicans do very well and the Dems are not very good at. yourout Nov 2014 #47
Unfortunately... kentuck Nov 2014 #48
Got it sobenji Nov 2014 #93
Don't write her off so quickly, Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #88
Been feeling that way myself for a while too. mahina Nov 2014 #32
I feel the same way. indivisibleman Nov 2014 #35
May be odd, Thespian2 Nov 2014 #42
Me too. eggplant Nov 2014 #43
eggplant, you're too cool... kentuck Nov 2014 #53
I think so too. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #57
Sometimes I think it can be advantageous to be positive. kentuck Nov 2014 #44
Sorry to spoil the party jimlup Nov 2014 #49
If Republicans are doing as well as they say Samantha Nov 2014 #52
Vote Not a Fan Nov 2014 #54
I hope so--lots of us have been busting ass on GOTV eridani Nov 2014 #55
inshalla -- I can't get over how even with a party filled with professional nutcases - they keep Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #59
They stand for something? But Democrats don't? Democrats stand for reproductive choice and for Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #60
The margin of error can go either way madville Nov 2014 #58
I certainly hope that you are right, but I am not so optimistic. Laelth Nov 2014 #62
Most main stream media reports tiredtoo Nov 2014 #63
Pretty sure our guy Brad Schneider will win and also Duckworth here in IL. MerryBlooms Nov 2014 #65
You may be right on a lot of levels. mstinamotorcity2 Nov 2014 #66
Correct me if I am wrong but rosesaylavee Nov 2014 #67
Haven't you seen the news outlets? Why, it's virtual blowout- silvershadow Nov 2014 #69
A guy came to our door yesterday Arugula Latte Nov 2014 #70
We had two visits from Dem precinct workers this election mnhtnbb Nov 2014 #73
Absolutely. Octafish Nov 2014 #71
I have to go with Nate Silver so I am not too optimistic. Just hope most of the close races Quixote1818 Nov 2014 #72
Gawd, Kentuck....I wish you were right. loudsue Nov 2014 #74
God, I sure hope so!!!! gopiscrap Nov 2014 #76
I can't believe... zentrum Nov 2014 #79
There are going to be alot of insane repukes libtodeath Nov 2014 #81
Turnout can look like 2012 Iliyah Nov 2014 #82
I sure hope you are correct...no text.. Stuart G Nov 2014 #84
Hope. eom JEB Nov 2014 #85
I agree, Kentuck. I think a lot of the polling may be flawed. davsand Nov 2014 #86

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
1. Me too
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 07:45 PM
Nov 2014

I'm seeing the vibe you speak of as well. The only thing casting doubt is the stupid media, which is irrelevant anyway.

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
36. Yep. We should be warning all that the thieving Republicans will take your savings just like last
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 09:39 PM
Nov 2014

time they had power. God this is a scary time. They will continue to sell off the country and we, citizens, will be their chattel. It is their promise to us and they keep their word when it comes to braking the backs, and taking the rites of the common citizen.

Seniors say good bye to your social security! We are pushing ourselves into a corner where we will have to fight. Voting is better than smashing heads.OUR revolution is to VOTE!!!!

There are more of us. If we vote, we win.....

There are more of us. If we vote, we win.....

There are more of us. If we vote, we win.....

There are more of us. If we vote, we win.....

There are more of us. If we vote, we win.....

There are more of us. If we vote, we win.....

Every single voter must get out and VOTE!!!

brewens

(13,574 posts)
75. We had a Democratic congressman in Idaho running for reelection in 2010.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 12:15 PM
Nov 2014

Walt Minnick. He ran an ad saying he voted against "Obamacare". I would have liked to have kicked his ass both for the vote and ad. Why do that? He wasn't going to get Republicans to vote for him. They want an actual Republican that will help them control the House. Sure enough, he lost.

That's what happens. The Republican elect a total douchebag that embarrases eveyone and the Democrats ramp efforts up and knock them off. Then the Republicans make an all-out effort to get it back. He had two years to do something to really impress Democrats in my part of the state. Worrying about pissing off conservatives wasn't going to get him anywhere, they were pulling out all the stops to come after him anyway.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
3. If I hear "voted with Obama 97% of the time"
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 07:58 PM
Nov 2014

or "the deciding vote on Obamacare" one more time, I might be tempted to shoot my TV. I was astounded that Dan Sullivan used those exact phrases even in his final televised debate with Mark Begich Thursday night. Not an original thought in his head, just Republican talking points.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
6. Was Begich able to counter those phrases and destroy the repub?
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:15 PM
Nov 2014

If not, that is a symptom of the Democrats inability to articulate their position.

My reply would have been simple: "Yes, I proudly voted with the President to fix our dysfunctional health care system. Republicans, like my opponent, voted against Social Security when it was proposed. They voted against Medicare. They were wrong then, and they are wrong now."

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
21. Mark was outstanding in the debate,
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:51 PM
Nov 2014

and, yes, he was able to counter it. Politifact rates him as one of the most independent Senators in DC, so he was able to refute that 97% thing pretty quickly. I don't always agree with Mark, but there's no doubt that he is much more connected to Alaska and Alaskans than Ohio Dan is. One thing that i'm with him 100% on is his opposition to arming Syrian rebels, since we're kind of unclear on who to trust over there, and his opposition to 'boots on the ground" in that part of the world. Dan Sullivan was an assistant secretary of state under Condi Rice and is a major hawk. We don't need that.

Mark came prepared with all kinds of specific policy ideas, described all of the good things he's done in DC for the state, and had a quick answer for every jab that Dan threw. I was very impressed and even more glad that I had voted for Mark early. What i point out every chance i get is that even if Mark isn't perfect, and even if we don't agree with him 100% of the time, we know him -- he grew up here, people loved his father, he was on the Anchorage assembly and was mayor, he's been a good senator working hard for Alaska's interests. He'll talk to anybody and frequently calls in to Anchorage's right-wing radio talk shows and takes questions. Dan Sullivan has not held elected office, instead working inside DC as mentioned above, and then installed up here as Sarah Palin's attorney general, even though no one knew who he was, and has been deep into the corrupt Sean Parnell regime as first his attorney general and then DNR commissioner, where he championed really bone-headed ideas that were particularly galling to Alaska Natives, being anti-subsistence and against local input on major resource projects. He's really just a flak for the big moneyed interests.

For a look at where the money is coming from, check out this: http://www.adn.com/article/20141101/outside-groups-invest-alaska-senate-control Dan Sullivan's parents were the second and third largest donors to Karl Rove's Crossroads groups in August, and his brother is on the board of the US Chamber of Commerce. Freedom Partners Action Fund is a Koch Brothers organization. Given that huge sum of money from those groups, it's pretty obvious who he'll be answering to if he gets elected.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
23. Why is working with the President supposedly a bad thing?
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:56 PM
Nov 2014

That's what people voted for in 2012! My fucking God. What they didn't vote for was their elected officials to act like a bunch of whiny children who obstruct every goddamn thing Obama does. And people want to put these asswipes back in power? The lack of logic there is just ridiculous.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
40. I always want the moderators to say something like
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 10:03 PM
Nov 2014

"And who would YOU vote with 97% of the time, Mr. Conservative?" In fact, the moderator of our public TV debate the other night did ask that question, and every single person that Sullivan came up with in his response was a Republican. Then at the end he threw in, "and I'd work with Democrats, too." Yeah, right. LOL.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
91. "and I'd work with Democrats, too." Oh yeah, THAT'S rich.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 07:34 PM
Nov 2014

Yeah, like I'll believe that. This elan carr CON is claiming the same thing here in Henry Waxman's district. Yeah, SUUUUUUUUUURE he'll work with Democrats. He's a CON. He'd go lockstep straight to the GOP and bend over and genuflect and then turn around and screw me as one of many constituents he would ignore. Yeah SUUUUUUUUUUUUURE he'll reach across the aisle. And I'll be Queen of Siberia.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
7. I had a pollster call with very leading questions to that effect
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:18 PM
Nov 2014

Asking if it would change my opinion of Gwen Graham (running to oust Steve Southerland, FL-Tea Party) to hear that she accepted a $10,000 donation from Nancy Pelosi. My response was, well it made me think WORSE of Steve Southerland to learn he had accepted more than $100,000 from the Koch Brothers' fake grassroots groups.

Another question, asked in breathless, shocked tones, was if I knew that Gwen Graham had campaigned for Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi AND Howard Dean! "So what," I said. "So did I! I'll be even happier to vote for Gwen knowing that we worked for the same goals." After that the pollster stopped trying to be dramatic and just droned out the questions.

Right after that Southerland's ads started using the same talking points. Asshat! I hope we can kick him out and get some sanity in, even if Graham is not as liberal as I'd like. If she is as good as her father, she will be brilliant - her father is Bob Graham, former Florida Senator and Governor.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
37. It seems like every Dem was the deciding vote on obamacare
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 09:40 PM
Nov 2014

and the Dem party was all united with the socialist president on everything.

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
5. I agree with you. We are quietly winning the ground game. Why would you go out of your way to brag
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:13 PM
Nov 2014

about how well the gotv is quietly being orchestrated because you are only showing your hand to your opponent.

I was sent an email yesterday asking me to "pledge to vote Tuesday", which I thought was brilliant because I could tell them not to waste resources on me for a GOTV initiative so they can use that time and effort on someone else.

vadermike

(1,415 posts)
8. GOtV
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:18 PM
Nov 2014

GOtV may save us some seats but probably not AR KY . It may save us in AK LA GA IA CO .. I think we hold NC NH. MT WV SD are done. KS will go to Orman

kiri

(794 posts)
41. A vote for Mitch is a vote for Ebola.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 10:05 PM
Nov 2014

A group has printed up T-shirts for the Senate election in Kentucky.

1. Vote for good Health
Vote for Grimes

2. Vote against Ebola
Vote for Grimes

3. Vote for Ebola
Vote for McConnell
(superimposed on a really ugly picture of McConnell's face covered with boils)

People wearing these T-shirts will be standing near voting places in red districts.

 

caber09

(666 posts)
9. Tues will be a letdown...
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:21 PM
Nov 2014

I hope you are right and I am wrong, I think the GOTV will not be as great as we are hearing in the end, and how sure are we that these newly registered, or non-midterm voting Dems are going to the polls and actually pulling the D lever so to speak...especially in the South, where a lot of Ds have not changed their registration and vote straight R no matter what.........I admire your theory and confidence, I just don't see it happening, we have heard about GOTV efforts and enthusiasm etc in the past, only to be left pissed off come Tues night and disappointed. For some reason I was very confident like you in 2012, and knew all the close polls were BS, I don't have the same feeling this time around though

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
11. CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE YOUR DEBBIE DOWNERISM SOMEWHERE ELSE !! ENOUGH DAMN IT !!
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:35 PM
Nov 2014

Yours is the very attitude that is WRONG. People are working very hard. How about some positiveness. Please, consider taking an upper. We just are not interested in stinking rotten Debby Downerism.

 

caber09

(666 posts)
22. Des Moines Register has Ernst up 7 points....
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:56 PM
Nov 2014
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2014/11/01/iowa-poll-joni-ernst-leads-bruce-braley/18345157/

Even Daily Kos calls her pretty reliable, with a pretty good track record....with the amount Braley is ahead supposedly in early voting (15%+)...if that is real, its almost impossible for Ernst to comeback and win....if Ernst wins this seat that means a lot of Ds voted early...for her....it seems before every election we hear about GOTV and left shaking our heads come election night, again I hope I am wrong and you are right...I see the handwork, I see the early voting numbers...if these numbers are true we will have a better night than expected, we need to hold CO NH NC, and hopefully AK & LA.....I do think Nunn can win in GA though...Grimes is a pretty good candidate, if she beats McConnell that would be a dream come true....when I see all these places in trouble, along with a better map for 2016 for us....I get angry....Rockefeller in WVA, Harkin in IA....Rockefeller prob holds on in a slightly closer election than usual, and Harkin wins another landslide...if only they went for 1 more term, the map would look a little easier and we could've been more on offense.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
90. i haven't seen anything remotely positive about Ernst on Daily Kos
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 07:25 PM
Nov 2014

and certainly nothing about her being reliable or having a good track record.

Daily Kos Elections Morning Digest: Joni Ernst takes her ...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/15/1321731/-Daily-Kos-Elections-Morning-Digest-Joni-Ernst-takes-her-black-helicopter-out-for-a-spin
This is the kind of thing that people who think "The Report from Iron Mountain" is an actual government report would say. Ernst probably believes the NAFTA ...
Joni Ernst, cynical tea party conspiracy theorist
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/25/1332307/-Joni-Ernst-cynical-tea-party-conspiracy-theorist
Oh, Iowa. You already have Steve King. Why would you want to inflict this on the entire state? [Republican Senate candidate Joni] Ernst has alleged that ...
Joni Ernst showed vindictive side in ouster of veterans from ...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/14/1336480/-Joni-Ernst-showed-vindictive-side-in-ouster-of-veterans-from-county-board
Joni Ernst has been running for Iowa Senate as the kind of Republican woman who's tough enough to castrate hogs and serve in the National Guard, but also a ...
Joni Ernst is giving out hugs to DC media, but still won't ...
http://omnifeed.com/article/www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/27/1339474/-Joni-Ernst-is-giving-out-hugs-to-DC-media-but-still-won-t-talk-to-Iowa-press
Joni Ernst may not be talking to the Iowa press, but she's apparently letting style reporters from the Washington Post ride along in her RV as she travels ...
Daily Kos: Joni Ernst
http://www.dailykos.com/news/Joni%20Ernst
When I first saw Joni Ernst’s ad about her growing up castrating hogs on an Iowa farm, I simply saw it as a clever way to make a point about fighting ...
Joni Ernst insists that Iowa workers don't need a living wage
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/29/1333085/-Joni-Ernst-insists-that-Iowa-workers-don-t-need-a-living-wage
Iowa Republican Joni Ernst tried to make it sound like something other than what it is, but at a debate in her campaign for Senate, she repeated her ...
POLITICAL ZANIES: Joni Ernst of Iowa - Daily Kos
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/04/1334301/-POLITICAL-ZANIES-Joni-Ernst-of-Iowa
As Joan McCarter of the Daily Kos reports, Iowa Senate candidate Joni Ernst is the latest entrant in the Tea Party's shoot-from-the-lip style of Zany ...
Joni Ernst: Gov't might 'move people off agricultural land ...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/15/1321706/-Joni-Ernst-Gov-t-might-move-people-off-agricultural-land-and-consolidate-them-into-city-centers
Joni Ernst might get moved off this beautiful agricultural land and consolidated into a city center!
Joni Ernst wants to inflict pain on needy people
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/17/1337100/-Joni-Ernst-wants-to-inflict-pain-on-nbsp-needy-nbsp-people?detail=email
Iowa Republican and U.S. Senate candidate Joni Ernst has been very clear about her opposition to raising the minimum wage, and now audio has surfaced from a 2013 ...
Daily Kos at Daily Kos
http://blogspot.davidwalters.dailykos.com/
Reposted from Daily Kos Elections by Jed Lewison. ... Senate candidate Joni Ernst of Iowa says she has not seen "proven proof." ...

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
64. Personally, I am interested in facts and in the truth.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 09:49 AM
Nov 2014

If those facts and truths are depressing, so be it. I'd rather see the world for what it is.

But, that's just me.

-Laelth

mahina

(17,646 posts)
33. We've ALSO heard while working about GOTV efforts, only to be blown away by the turnout
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 09:25 PM
Nov 2014

and had sore feet from dancing with joy.

Recently.

And it's looking that way this time too.

From where I'm sitting.

But I'm up for a fight if it's needed, for sure, and definitely not giving up.

catbyte

(34,373 posts)
68. Absentee voting is up 9% over 2010 in Detroit. That has Rick The Dictator Snyder's people
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 11:15 AM
Nov 2014

VERY nervous. I am cautiously optimistic.

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
80. That's exactly what it takes...
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 02:19 PM
Nov 2014

...when Dems turn out, Dems Win.

If anybody out there is reading this and tempted to sit this one out, consider this: sitting on the couch is the same thing as a vote for a Republican - that's exactly what they want. Look at the recent images of Governor Chrispy Creme Christy berating the guy a few days ago (as he's prone to do) about holding back the hurricane funding. Or for that matter, all of the ridiculous ads coming out that insult the intelligence of the voters - remember those stupid "Yes To The Dress" ads, or better yet, those "I've got tats and I'm a Republican" commercials? How about the images of Rick Scott, Sarah Palin, Mitch McConnell (we have a real chance of knocking this guy out of the Senate - GOTV!) and the countless other corporate puppets that don't give one damn about you?

Getting tired of having your intelligence insulted by a political party that thinks we have none? Tired of bullying, and of the complete lack of regard for we the people?

Here's our chance. GOTV, and get to the polls yourself. And tell the prognosticators where they can take their predictions.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
13. I have never seen a GOTV effort like this year
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:39 PM
Nov 2014

I have had so many people at my door, flyers, emails, phone calls, it's crazy. I usually get one person, maybe two, stopping by the house, but this year I've had more like 8 to 10.

progressoid

(49,978 posts)
14. I am cautiously optimistic.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:39 PM
Nov 2014

Clearly we are going to lose a few, but I believe it will be better for us than the talking douches on TV think.

LibinMo

(533 posts)
17. From your mouth to God's ear...
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:44 PM
Nov 2014

I plan to vote, even in my red district. I too am hoping Dems will do well.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
20. I'd really like to believe that.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:51 PM
Nov 2014

Unfortunately, there definitely seems to be an anti-Democratic mood across the country. Even the comment sections on CNN.com are now full of right-wing, Obama-hating douchebags.

 

caber09

(666 posts)
24. Agreed, not good....
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:59 PM
Nov 2014

I cannot fathom how the electorate is going to hand the keys back to the same people (actually worse in many cases!) who drove us into the ditch....the media and public seem to have short memories and forgive Rs/take out frustration on D's alot faster.

Response to caber09 (Reply #24)

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
61. This is a discussion board
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 09:23 AM
Nov 2014

and, speaking as someone who has been here since 2001, you are entitled, in fact, ENCOURAGED to have your own opinion and state it. Your post count has nothing to do with the validity of your opinion. Please, by all means, speak up, that's what this board is all about.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
25. I can only hope that my vote makes this true.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 09:09 PM
Nov 2014

I'll consider it good fortune for the nation if McConnell goes down in flames.

RichGirl

(4,119 posts)
26. I never watch FOX news...are they claiming that GOP will win big?
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 09:09 PM
Nov 2014

I hope so. In general people don't like to vote, standing in line, etc. If they think they are winning that's a good excuse to stay home. I think the reason Romney lost bigtime is partly because of Rove and Dick Morris constantly insisting he'd win by a landslide.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
28. As Bill Maher said, pretty said they'll stand for hours at Walmart on Black Friday but not to vote.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 09:12 PM
Nov 2014

BKH70041

(961 posts)
29. What is "better than expected" mean to you?
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 09:14 PM
Nov 2014

They're expected to lose the Senate. Does better mean not lose it? Does it mean lose but not as bad as is being predicted? Just wondering.

yourout

(7,527 posts)
30. Wish I had any hope.....preparing for more quality Governing by Walker.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 09:15 PM
Nov 2014

The big election for Wisconsin will be 2018.

Best chance to undo the Gerrymandering is to win the Govenorship before the 2020 census.
Then we can take back the State Senate and House.

still_one

(92,137 posts)
31. The Republicans are slowly becoming obsolete. Even if they "win" the midterms they are going to
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 09:23 PM
Nov 2014

lose the battle.

yourout

(7,527 posts)
45. We have to have the Govenors chair by then which means 2018. We are not getting the house back...
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 10:51 PM
Nov 2014

until the gerrymandering is fixed.
And the only way to at least get a fair shot is to have veto power and the Gov.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
46. I rather agree...
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 11:04 PM
Nov 2014

Democrats need to look to the future and plan ahead before the census year of 2020.

yourout

(7,527 posts)
47. The long game is something the Republicans do very well and the Dems are not very good at.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 11:16 PM
Nov 2014

The Republicans stacked the courts before they unleashed the worst of their plans and have a "take no prisoners" approach to politics that we have yet to figure out how to counter.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
88. Don't write her off so quickly,
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 06:24 PM
Nov 2014

especially on the basis of that Marquette poll, which was pretty badly Bradleyized (as in Bradley Foundation).

indivisibleman

(482 posts)
35. I feel the same way.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 09:29 PM
Nov 2014

The energy seems to be flowing in Democratic direction while as you say, there is a sense of desperation in the Repub comments and ads. I'm prepared for the worse but very optimistic that we will have a lot to celebrate over in a few days.

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
43. Me too.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 10:37 PM
Nov 2014

I've been intentionally avoiding following any polling for the past week, and choosing to have faith in humanity. Even if I'm wrong, at least I got a week's worth of happiness out of it.

Oh, and as a fuck you to Gov. Cuomo, I'm writing in Teachout/Wu on my damned ballot. It's the principle of the thing.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
44. Sometimes I think it can be advantageous to be positive.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 10:42 PM
Nov 2014

Unless it morphs into over-confidence, I think it better to hope for the best. If it doesn't happen, I don't think you have hurt your cause. Let's work on getting out the vote and remain positive.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
49. Sorry to spoil the party
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 11:40 PM
Nov 2014

but I suspect that the polling numbers are correct. My last hope is for a strong shift in the last couple of days as people really access their interests. Especially for the Senate.

But I fear that it will be a pretty fucking horrible couple of years. . . not that I'm giving up. Just facing the reality

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
52. If Republicans are doing as well as they say
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 12:04 AM
Nov 2014

why are their candidates not running away with the elections in normally very red states?

Sam

eridani

(51,907 posts)
55. I hope so--lots of us have been busting ass on GOTV
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 02:34 AM
Nov 2014

I've been reluctant to make calls to other states--concernec that the locals might think thqt outsiders are interfering.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
56. inshalla -- I can't get over how even with a party filled with professional nutcases - they keep
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 02:32 AM
Nov 2014

winning - I suppose they come off with a lot more moral certainty than the always compromising weak willed Democrats - at least they stand for something even if it is the wrong something

Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #56)

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
60. They stand for something? But Democrats don't? Democrats stand for reproductive choice and for
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 09:05 AM
Nov 2014

equal rights for all including LGBT people, Democrats stand for a living wage and organized labor. Republicans just oppose all of that, they stand for nothing.
Moral certainty? That's what you see in Republicans? What does that even mean?

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
62. I certainly hope that you are right, but I am not so optimistic.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 09:31 AM
Nov 2014

Too many Republican Secretaries of State control the voting machines.

-Laelth

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
63. Most main stream media reports
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 09:41 AM
Nov 2014

I see call for a Republican victory next Tuesday. How much of this is factual and how much is just more corporate controlled propaganda? We don't know, personally, I am optimistic.
We do have what appears to be an excellent ground game going on.
Have to leave it at that as i am preparing to go work the phones for our Democratic candidates here in Michigan.
And for those who are sick of all those phone calls, we the callers, are sick of making them also.
But feel the sacrifice and pain are worth the effort to get the results we want.
Carry on my friends, carry on!

MerryBlooms

(11,767 posts)
65. Pretty sure our guy Brad Schneider will win and also Duckworth here in IL.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 09:54 AM
Nov 2014

I think Quinn will take the gov's race because Rauner has a libertarian that will skim off some of his votes- but I think it will be a very close call.

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
66. You may be right on a lot of levels.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 10:29 AM
Nov 2014

Usually when you see them pulling out all the stops, it means Repugs are in trouble. In my state I think Gov. Snyder is in trouble. I have my problem with these republican Secretary of State Officials who are trying to shave the points. They work for their Governors. We as members of the Democratic Party must put more bodies at the polls than they can discount. It is what happened in 2008 and 2012. I am hoping that the Repugs have underestimated their own. There are those who vote against their own best interest, that is until you fuck with something they love. You can't keep railing against everything and not step on a few toes. I work with republicans. They are pissed at some things that their buddies have done. They may have just disenfranchised enough of their own to tilt the scale. The one way Repugs show their anger is to stay home or do the ultimate deed and vote democratic. If Governor Snyder loses it will be his own that sinks him. You cannot attack Women's Health (rape insurance), Unions ( Right -to-Work), Working families (reduced earned income credit from 65% to 35%), Teachers ( cut education budget), Emergency financial Managers ( governing 80% of the States minority communities), College Students ( cut Snap benefits for college kids, 186 dollars a month, effected 30,000 students who already were eating Ramen noodles the last week of the month). You cannot do all these things and think you are not hurting Republicans.

rosesaylavee

(12,126 posts)
67. Correct me if I am wrong but
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 11:11 AM
Nov 2014

are pollsters still using landline phones to survey? If so, they are losing a huge swath of voters who only use cell phones.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
69. Haven't you seen the news outlets? Why, it's virtual blowout-
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 11:27 AM
Nov 2014

the Republicans are already measuring the drapes in their would-be offices as we speak. (I agree with you, btw)

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
70. A guy came to our door yesterday
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 11:39 AM
Nov 2014

and asked about our son voting. I said, "Wellll, he isn't 18 yet, but my husband and I have voted."

These kinds of efforts impress me.

mnhtnbb

(31,382 posts)
73. We had two visits from Dem precinct workers this election
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 11:45 AM
Nov 2014

and one of them was here yesterday asking about our son. He's
at grad school--out of state--and submitted an absentee ballot.
I checked on it yesterday--his ballot was received on Oct. 30 and
will be counted for KAY HAGAN!

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
71. Absolutely.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 11:42 AM
Nov 2014

GOP's busy planting gloom and doom in order to depress turnout.

People aren't stupid -- they know who's screwing them on behalf of Wall Street...uh, wait a sec....

Quixote1818

(28,928 posts)
72. I have to go with Nate Silver so I am not too optimistic. Just hope most of the close races
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 11:42 AM
Nov 2014

go to Dems.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
74. Gawd, Kentuck....I wish you were right.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 12:13 PM
Nov 2014

I lack your optimism at this point. I think the republicans are going to pull some more computer-based shennanigans. The powers that be have paid too much money to buy the 2014 elections to leave it all to chance.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
79. I can't believe...
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 01:24 PM
Nov 2014

That on the eve of climate catastrophe, and with Obamacare starting to really kick in and the economy certainly better than it was under Bush---that the country is about to turn harder right and bring back the conditions that damaged us so badly six years ago.

Have already voted and am doing what I can to get others to the polls.

But how can people vote for candidates who will take away their health care and social security? That's rhetorical, but it's hard not to despair at what I think will happen on Tuesday.

The final irony will be that I think it is the Republicans who will finally do something for immigration reform---and thereby cadge away the Democrat's natural constituency for the future. Why in God's name did Obama say he would wait on the Dreamers until after the election? Hard to turn out the vote for a Democratic party that is no longer able to fight for anything.

Rove taught them to always energize their base. But the Dems always suppress theirs. I go bald from tearing my hair out.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
82. Turnout can look like 2012
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 02:27 PM
Nov 2014

and "if" that happens, GOP and corporate media heads are gonna explored - LOL

davsand

(13,421 posts)
86. I agree, Kentuck. I think a lot of the polling may be flawed.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 03:39 PM
Nov 2014

Something that has quietly been niggling in my reptile brain for a while now is that people have done away with landline phone service in increasing numbers. The people who still maintain landline phone service tend to be older and (typically) more conservative in social issues and in information sources. MOST polling is done via phone calls, therefore, it is possible that the polls now are less accurate than they were even 15 years ago. I'm not a statistical magician, but I will say that in my experience with campaigns, I have yet to see a poll that can avoid over sampling of one population or another, and I have never seen compensating adjustments to polls that were dead on.

MOST of the polling that anybody is talking about is fairly close to (if not admitted to be within) the stated margin of error. The same guys that calculated that adjustment for over sampling are the ones that calculate that MOE, and that makes me cringe if it is my campaigns' polling or the other guys'. I really feel that the races are much closer than anybody is realizing.

I am WAY more worried about this bullshit fund raising "We are SO screwed" tactic that the Dems have been using. I am worried that has done a lot to decrease turnout "Why Bother?" has come up more than once when I've talked to some of the usual Dem voters, and THAT needs to be laid at the DCCC and the DNC's feet. (In fact they need to be slapped upside the head for that...)

If everybody works their turf and turns out our voters, I think Dems will hold the Senate. If everybody sits in their hands and wails we are screwed.


Laura

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