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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTexas woman planted a gun in boy's backpack and then called school officials to 'teach him a lesson'
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/31/1340661/-Texas-woman-planted-a-gun-in-boy-s-backpack-and-then-called-school-officials-to-teach-him-a-lesson
This is a woman in need of some serious help. Heather Hodges didn't get along with her boyfriend's 13-year-old son and "wanted to teach him a lesson":
So she took her boyfriends 9-millimeter Smith and Wesson handgun, replaced the childs cologne and deodorant in his backpack, and then called Magnolia Junior High School from a nearby payphone to report him by name.
The poor kid was placed in a juvenile detention facility while school officials asked for an investigator from the Sheriff's office:
Retired MCSO investigator Mike Price said this was an important move, because of his experience as an interrogator, since it took multiple interviews to get Hodges to open up about what happened and her motives.
It was very unusual, Price said. Initially, we wanted to know what was (McKeegans) intent with the pistol. Did he bring it to school to harm someone, or just to show to his friends? He kept insisting that he knew he brought a gun to school, but he didnt realize it until the principal found the gun in his backpack. He was insistent.
He was so consistent with his story and he came across so sincere, not just emotionally, but how he just stayed with his story and would not waver from it, that my position was that theres something to this. I was the lone wolf at that point.
A judge decided to teach Heather Hodges a lesson, sentencing her to 3-years in prison. Thankfully the boy now lives with his mother in another state.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Girlfriend has her problems too, but daddy needs to keep his little gun locked up.
Dorian Gray
(13,493 posts)though I guess it's possible he did lock it up and she knew the combination or had a key.
Regardless, that woman is reprehensible. Who does that to a child? Seriously, what the fuckity fuck?
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)you are that irresponsible.. Plus, she doesn't sound very responsible either.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)This is not a story of a gun being irresponsibly left for a child to get a hold of; it's a story about an adult deliberately and maliciously putting the gun in the child's backpack and then calling the authorities to arrest the child.
Good gravy. If I didn't know better I would swear you're really a pro-NRA plant sent to make gun control advocates look ridiculous.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)planting illegal drugs or prescribed medications or a knife or kiddie porn? She could have accessed all of those things. She chose to commit a crime out of spite.
What, in your blind incoherence, are you proposing? That adult domestic partners keep their guns secured from each other?
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)Call the cops on someone to ruin a kid's life, and then the kid is chewed up in the prison-industrial complex, just because some authority figure with no psychological training wants to ruin a child's chances of learning a trade or getting any kind of an education. Because they are mad at the kid and they are the adult.
Glad they caught this............uh, female.
randome
(34,845 posts)Enough to convince the authorities to keep pressing the girlfriend for the truth.
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Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)had the authorities not busted the lying girlfriend and believed the boy.
Dorian Gray
(13,493 posts)what an asshole. Glad she got three years. Who does this to a child?
And what if he found gun and accidentally shot himself or another child?
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)In the alternate universe guns would be vastly more regulated, and something like this couldn't happen.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)child pornography or any one of a dozen contraband items.
hack89
(39,171 posts)So making all guns illegal will make them disappear. I'm with you.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)We don't need to speculate about this in the abstract, we can look at what happened in Australia for actual evidence.
Good gun control can't get rid of gun problems, but it can make them much rarer.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)But it never gets rid of actual criminal violence -- and in cases like Mexico it doesn't even get rid of gun violence.
hack89
(39,171 posts)in Australia the police have to agree that you "have a good reason" to own a gun before issuing you a permit with self defense explicitly being deemed not a valid reason - Heller says every American has the constitutional right to own a handgun in their home for self defense. Australian law also forbids the carrying of guns in public - Peruta extends Heller's right to self defense beyond one's home. Peruta is why California and Hawaii had to change their concealed carry laws from may issue to shall issue.
There are certainly laws that we could pass in America - AWBs, UBCs, even registration are constitutional. The problem for gun control advocates is not legal but political - there is not uniform widespread support for most of their agenda.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)The second amendment is not phrased conditionally; I suspect it was intended to be interpreted even more absolutistly than it has been.
"Would these laws be a good thing if passed and enforced?" and "would these laws need a constitutional amendment with less chance of passing than I have of being elected pope to pass and enforce them?" are independent questions.
hack89
(39,171 posts)As to whether such laws would be a good thing if passed - that is a question for the American people to answer through the political process. Right now they appear to disagree with you.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)I sincerely hope there are lots of things you disagree with the majority of Americans about too.
Many problems cannot be solved legislatively, some cannot even be ameliorated. The fact that one American in 10,000 is shot to death every year could be significantly ameliorated by legislation, but doing so would require the constitution to be changed (or, as you point out, ignored).
Obviously, that's not going to happen, because it's not the will of the majority, or even the will of a large minority, sadly, and so lots of innocent people are going to go on dying needlessly.
hack89
(39,171 posts)many kill more than guns. They are choices societies make all the time. The best you can do is work around the edges to reduce the most egregious abuses.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)What a sicko. Glad she is out of that kid's life.
jollyreaper2112
(1,941 posts)That kid is so lucky someone in authority cared to dig. It would have been so easy to treat it as it appeared.
malaise
(268,945 posts)aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)What a stupid person.
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vankuria
(904 posts)Wonder what the lesson was she wanted to "teach"? Maybe she just wanted to find a way to get rid of him, what a horrible, disgusting piece of trash.
So glad someone took the time to dig into this and find out what was really going on, and also glad the boy is away from this stupid bitch.
dembotoz
(16,799 posts)an important lesson indeed
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)I hope she serves the entire 3 years, since she could have really destroyed that boy's future.
Youdontwantthetruth
(135 posts)For those that need it.......
badtoworse
(5,957 posts)derby378
(30,252 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Help? That is insulting. It make it seem that women lack agency, ie not a criminal but crazy.