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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:34 AM Nov 2014

I hope like hell that President Obama has a firm grip on his veto pen

and the determination to use it. I get that he won't be using it on things like fast track for the TPP and Keystone- both will likely be passed by this new Congress, but I'm really hoping he uses it on cuts to the social safety net and such items as the chained CPI- even though he once proposed just that in the hopes of working with republicans. Now he has no real incentive to cave to the republican agenda- unless he agrees with certain items as he does on fast track.

This isn't just about the ACA which I assume he'll stand strong on. There are other things the republicans will be trying to ram through.

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QC

(26,371 posts)
5. He's way more likely to get all reachy-outy now,
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:37 AM
Nov 2014

which is never a good thing.

Time for the Grand Bargain?

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
7. He always reached out and brought back a nub. When he asked to meet he was dissed twice.
Reply to QC (Reply #5)
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:55 AM
Nov 2014

People buy into the media meme that the President refuses to work with Congress when it is the other way around.

madville

(7,408 posts)
6. I doubt he'll get a chance to use it much
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:48 AM
Nov 2014

The Senate will likely leave the 60-vote fillibuster in place for legislation so most of the bills that would potentially be vetoed won't get through there.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. Fortunately I think the House still scares the hell out of the Senate
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:56 AM
Nov 2014

I don't think they'll work together much better than they have been.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
11. TPP requires partners to agree to it.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:58 AM
Nov 2014

At the rate it's going they don't want half the crap in there and it's likely to be negotiated with the partner states for awhile yet.

Keystone though you have a point, that should get passed fairly easily. But then, Obama has been wanting that for awhile now.

RussBLib

(9,006 posts)
13. Senate Dems will have to use the filibuster
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:53 AM
Nov 2014

Like the GOP did.

The Dems will have to prevent some pretty odious things from passing. But I bet they won't use the filibuster, because they just don't like to play hardball, for some reason.

So it would fall to Obama to veto the BS, and hope that enough Dems will not vote to override.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
14. When he didn't jail the bankers, when appointed the problem thieves to positions, when he gave
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:56 AM
Nov 2014

it to the insurance companies, when he continues endless war, I don't have much faith for that assurance. I think his ink in that pen may have dried. Not going to hold my breath on that, but I hope so also.

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