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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAccording to exit polls 23% of Americans are liberal, 40% are moderate , and 36% are conservative
Ideologically, 36 percent of respondents said they are conservative, while 23 percent said they are liberal. Another 40 percent said they are moderates.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/11/exit-polls-2014-republican-democrat-turnout-112505.html#ixzz3Ia6v6c55
What should be our response?
Reach out to find common ground with folks who don't think like us
or
Ignore the results because the average American is too stupid to know what his or her beliefs are and what his or her beliefs make him or her?
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)oh, I don't know, at least 500 times here, this is a poll that has people self-identifying with labels. Since the word "liberal" has been denigrated by the Republicans and Third-Way "Democrats," most people misunderstand the definition. When polls are taken on positions, for example, raising minimum wage or providing low-cost student loans, the vast majority of people, regardless of how they self-identify, favor liberal causes.
But keep on posting same old canard 'cause goddess knows we haven't seen it enough.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)vote .
n2doc
(47,953 posts)People voted for increases in the minimum wage, and increases in conservation efforts. Even in Florida.
Problem is, liberal has been disconnected from policy and only the met excessive, derogatory lies are associated with the term. That has to change, or Democrats need a new term. Or maybe an old one, like 'Progressive"
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Because it does predict how they vote for candidates.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Problem is they are completely irrational when they vote.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)And everybody that believes differently than you is either wrong or delusional?
daleanime
(17,796 posts)Did we read the same response?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Have a nice rest of the weekend.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)don't brother paying any attention to some one else's views?
Then why start a discussion?
I have to say that comes across like a rock troll.
Proud Public Servant
(2,097 posts)is that that's self-identification. Conservatives have spent years, quite successfully, demonizing the word "liberal"; it's not surprising that people would eschew the label. But when questioned about policies, those people embrace liberal ones in greater numbers.
The same problem, incidentally, is in evidence among women whose values completely align with the major goals of feminism but refuse to label themselves "feminists."
The solution, I firmly believe, is to have a clear, and clearly-explainable, set of principles and policies that define us, so that our opponents have a harder time tarnishing our label.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)tridim
(45,358 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Faux pas
(14,645 posts)IF the polls didn't just poll a SMALL percentage of people. If the polls polled the ENTIRE population, then I'd take their (gallup/whomever) word.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Do you dismiss every poll that doesn't poll every single Americans because those polls don't exist?
And if we dismiss very poll because they use a representative sample instead of polling everybody how do we know what people think about anything?
Faux pas
(14,645 posts)That is all. Have a good one.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)We no longer have national policy or legislation on anything that matters. States and the president will be responsible for all policy initiatives.
This will be especially true when the SCOTUS kills the ACA next year.
Focus on local politics--the local assembly person is much more important than your US senator.
Faux pas
(14,645 posts)I think those percentages are the percentage of each group who voted. Not the percentage of the entire population. Duh?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Thank you.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Increasing Social Security benefits, Medicare for all, raising the minimum wage, and so forth.
Two thirds!
Americans love Liberal ideas, but they've heard nothing but demonization of the word Liberal by Republicans and Third Wayers alike for decades.
The Third-Way chuckleheads who own our party today have fled from these positions, which may help them and their families to get rich on Wall Street, but it doesn't get votes for Democrats.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)It appears that half of eligible Americans didn't enter let alone EXIT a polling place.
Based on this poll we MUST move RIGHTERER? R...I.....G........H..............T.................!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Thank you in advance.
I'm not offering any prescriptions.
treestar
(82,383 posts)That's why we don't bother to poll them.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)from a nonrandom sample...then you can't be helped to understand why that statement cannot be about -ALL- Americans.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)Those who don't vote don't get polled. That's a big part of the problem.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Thank you in advance.
treestar
(82,383 posts)they don't vote, so they don't count.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)Only the "likely voter" polls are of interest to candidates, and that's part of the reason we get the results in elections that we get. It's a feedback loop that reinforces itself at every election.
I don't know how to interrupt the feedback.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Likely voters are the ones to go after. The apathetic would take so much effort and you can put a lot of effort into apathetic people and they still won't do anything.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)They'd all be liberal in no time. At least, that's the impression I get here.
kaiserhog
(167 posts)the answers even more so.
on point
(2,506 posts)According to issues
This only a reflection of the fact we let pukes denigrate the liberal label. Step 1 might be to reclaim the label.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)We just need to get our message out better to counter the Republican lies and RW media backing them up.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)because the democratic voters, for whatever reason, can't be bothered to vote in midterm elections.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)specific issues or candidates, I'm surprised the % of people identifying as 'moderate' isn't even higher.
"Moderate" is almost a meaningless label, imo, because it can mean different things to different people, depending almost upon what they had for breakfast on a given day.
So let me put the question out there. What does 'moderate' even mean any longer?
Zorra
(27,670 posts)B) Our response should be non-violent revolution, unless someone can find a way to instantaneously mind wipe the brainwashing out of their heads.
I have no common ground with fascists, and their unfortunate brainwashed clones, because I haven't owned a TV for 40 years. I don't have any of the matrix bullshit that was planted in their heads in my consciousness. I've never undergone the National American Video Lobotomy.
GeorgeGist
(25,311 posts)Get a clue.
TBF
(32,013 posts)of the country is not voting at all. And you're worried about 1/3 of the 1/3 who actually show up? 60% are so fed up they don't even care enough to show up.
Think about that.