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Calvin Klein's new "plus size" model: 5'11", size 10 (Original Post) cali Nov 2014 OP
Seems like a small size ten or I'm just a chubby size Ten. bravenak Nov 2014 #1
And are you 5'11"? SheilaT Nov 2014 #2
I wish I was Five Eleven. bravenak Nov 2014 #5
I wish *I* was 5' 11", too. dawg Nov 2014 #12
I would have traded pipi_k Nov 2014 #20
I have to buy pants with a 29 or 30" inseam ... dawg Nov 2014 #24
Yeah, once I got to be pipi_k Nov 2014 #41
I'm a human corgi. dawg Nov 2014 #52
I have to shop in the children's department Aerows Nov 2014 #46
I have a lady friend who is 4' 11"... Odin2005 Nov 2014 #44
I may be wrong UglyGreed Nov 2014 #3
I am 5'11", size 10, and will definitely not be shopping for Calvin Klein underwear in the Zorra Nov 2014 #4
Especially since Calvin Klein has never called this woman "plus sized" (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #22
Of course, since plus sizes range from 16 - 24. pnwmom Nov 2014 #6
My wife is a size 18 and the hottest woman I know Recursion Nov 2014 #7
She either slimmed down or they chopped her image aikoaiko Nov 2014 #8
she's not even remotely + sized in the pics in your post cali Nov 2014 #9
What's wrong with those images? kcr Nov 2014 #35
Nothing wrong but I think she looks thicker in the Ford poster aikoaiko Nov 2014 #39
I don't see a difference kcr Nov 2014 #40
Fair enough. aikoaiko Nov 2014 #49
the insanity of size ten being "plus" is just disgusting. niyad Nov 2014 #10
Who said that size ten was "plus"? Calvin Klein did not (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #47
oh, yeah, this is "plus"-sized. niyad Nov 2014 #11
Your link downloaded the image file to my computer. MineralMan Nov 2014 #13
For me, my browser opened up a new page with the image. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #16
niyad, I clicked on your link and Raine1967 Nov 2014 #15
I am 5'3" and a size 8, so in Calvin Klein's eyes, I must be obese. n/t RebelOne Nov 2014 #14
No sh*t, I am 5'8" and a size ten etherealtruth Nov 2014 #25
You are the exact same height and size my ex was ... dawg Nov 2014 #27
you sound as if you loved her very much etherealtruth Nov 2014 #32
I'll always love her. dawg Nov 2014 #37
Bad news, still unrealistic. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #17
She looks pretty nice to me... ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2014 #18
She is beautiful but I would not consider her Plus Sized. dilby Nov 2014 #23
Plus size to the modeling industry treestar Nov 2014 #31
Oh, yeah...That'll work just fine Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #42
*SWOON* Odin2005 Nov 2014 #48
Me too. nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #53
Nobody from Calkin Klein has ever referred to this model as "plus sized" Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #19
Verdict first, facts later. hifiguy Nov 2014 #29
Especially if you get your facts from The Blaze! n't kcr Nov 2014 #36
Ugh, I consider size 10 as skinny. dilby Nov 2014 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Drayden Nov 2014 #28
Not skinny, not rail-thin, but not plus-sized. And if you call that "extra weight".... moriah Nov 2014 #33
Your post is exactly why those in this thread snarking that CC didn't call her plus sized are wrong kcr Nov 2014 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Drayden Nov 2014 #50
She isn't skinny by model standards kcr Nov 2014 #51
Calvin Klein did not "label her a plus size". Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author Drayden Nov 2014 #26
You are the exact same BMI as me, 22.3. moriah Nov 2014 #34
Department store plus-size mannequins are size 10 .... kwassa Nov 2014 #30
In the real world Size 10 is AVERAGE Odin2005 Nov 2014 #43
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
1. Seems like a small size ten or I'm just a chubby size Ten.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 02:23 PM
Nov 2014

Maybe I need a 12. But they fit bad and loose. Must be a size ten for models.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
2. And are you 5'11"?
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 02:32 PM
Nov 2014

Even if you happen to be the tall, most of us are not, no matter what size we wear.

Basically all models are taller, not to mention a lot thinner, than the typical person. A true plus size model would be no taller than 5'6" and take at least a size fourteen, and preferably should be wearing a 1x, 2x, or 3x, which are the actual plus sizes out there.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
5. I wish I was Five Eleven.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 02:34 PM
Nov 2014
I get it now. I'm suffering from shortness. I'm 5'1, almost 5'2 though. Almost.

dawg

(10,621 posts)
12. I wish *I* was 5' 11", too.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 03:20 PM
Nov 2014

That's the height I always wished I had been. Not really tall, but not short either.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
20. I would have traded
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 04:37 PM
Nov 2014

with you.

I was always sort of tall...5'9" at the very least.

Problem was it was all in my legs. Very long inseam. I could wear pants with a 33" inseam. Now with age I've shrunk a little...30" suffices at this point.

Anyway, I always wanted to be short. I totally get it when people say they felt like xxx in a yyy body.

Yep. I was a short person trapped in a tall body. One reason being that when you're a tall kid, people expect you (or they expected ME) to act older than your age.



dawg

(10,621 posts)
24. I have to buy pants with a 29 or 30" inseam ...
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 04:52 PM
Nov 2014

and then get them hemmed.

I have a pretty long body, but my legs are short and I wear my pants slung pretty low.

But 5'9" is a pretty cool height for a woman. I have a friend who is that height and I don't really think of her as being unusually tall.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
41. Yeah, once I got to be
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 07:47 PM
Nov 2014

an adult, my height wasn't that unusual.

But growing up, I was always the tallest kid in my classes.


I'm imaging how your body type looks, and thinking of a guy I lived with for a while. He was a few inches shorter than I was, but had a longer upper body and short legs. I'm long on bottom and short on top. One day I measured each of us, head to waist, then waist to feet, then swapped our waist to feet numbers. With his long upper body and my legs, he was like 7 feet tall. With my short torso and his short legs, I was like 4 feet tall.

OK so I am easily amused.



dawg

(10,621 posts)
52. I'm a human corgi.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 11:14 PM
Nov 2014

If my legs were long enough to by 30 length pants off the rack, I'd be 5'11", which is the size I would have liked to have been. Oh well. At least I don't trip and fall very often. I have that "stability" thing going for me.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
46. I have to shop in the children's department
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 07:52 PM
Nov 2014

to find jeans that fit. I'm 5'3" and I'm around 110. And I'm 40.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
4. I am 5'11", size 10, and will definitely not be shopping for Calvin Klein underwear in the
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 02:34 PM
Nov 2014

"Ladies Plus Sizes" section of any clothing store.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. My wife is a size 18 and the hottest woman I know
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 02:37 PM
Nov 2014

And I've met a lot of hot women. Just none quite as hot as her.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
9. she's not even remotely + sized in the pics in your post
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 02:41 PM
Nov 2014

she's slender. and the camera really does add ten pounds

aikoaiko

(34,162 posts)
39. Nothing wrong but I think she looks thicker in the Ford poster
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 06:01 PM
Nov 2014

Compared to the pictures in the story.

niyad

(113,049 posts)
11. oh, yeah, this is "plus"-sized.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 02:53 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Thu Nov 13, 2014, 10:39 PM - Edit history (1)

removing link--did not realize it was downloading to people's computers. have not had that sort of problem before. my apologies to those who experienced this.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
13. Your link downloaded the image file to my computer.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 03:50 PM
Nov 2014

Try deleting everything after the first jpg in that link. It's wrong to link in a way that actually downloads the file.

ETA: That didn't work. It still downloaded the file. I don't know why, but most people will not want the file downloaded. It probably would be best to remove that link.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
16. For me, my browser opened up a new page with the image.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 04:28 PM
Nov 2014

I'm guessing you have a browser setting set to download instead of open this file type. Not that it really matters, because when you open a picture in the browser it's still being downloaded by the browser.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
15. niyad, I clicked on your link and
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 04:24 PM
Nov 2014

it immediately downloaded something to my computer. I don;t think you meant for that to happen, but I wanted to give you a heads up.

dawg

(10,621 posts)
27. You are the exact same height and size my ex was ...
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 05:03 PM
Nov 2014

when I thought she was the image of female perfection.

Of course, I would have felt that way about her regardless of what size she happened to be. I was very much in love. She was very attractive at smaller sizes than that and also very attractive at larger sizes than that. But, looking back realistically, that was the size where she looked her absolute best.

dawg

(10,621 posts)
37. I'll always love her.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 05:58 PM
Nov 2014

Feeling blue about that at the moment, actually. But it's all good. I'm a lucky man in lots of ways.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
17. Bad news, still unrealistic.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 04:29 PM
Nov 2014

Good news, moving in the right direction. At least she's not size zero. Give it another generation, and the models will look like the people on the street. With a little luck.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
23. She is beautiful but I would not consider her Plus Sized.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 04:47 PM
Nov 2014

There are a lot of women who look exactly like her and I would consider them to be of average weight. When you take a woman like that and label her plus sized you are only encouraging eating disorders in women.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
31. Plus size to the modeling industry
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 05:13 PM
Nov 2014

Maybe. From their view, I can see it.

But for normal people, no way. Plus size means fat to us and doesn't apply to people who weigh more than models would.

The fashion industry may have forgotten models are not normal.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
19. Nobody from Calkin Klein has ever referred to this model as "plus sized"
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 04:31 PM
Nov 2014

so I am not really understanding the outrage here.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
29. Verdict first, facts later.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 05:05 PM
Nov 2014

And that is one stunning young woman. She actually looks healthy, unlike most "fashion model" types.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
21. Ugh, I consider size 10 as skinny.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 04:39 PM
Nov 2014

I am that old school type who admires a woman with curves. Although I appreciate Calvin Klein making an effort but labeling a size 10 as plus size is not helping young women who are already struggling to fit into what society considers norm. There is no shortage of size 20 women who are absolutely gorgeous and I would prefer to see in Calvin Klein ads.

Response to dilby (Reply #21)

moriah

(8,311 posts)
33. Not skinny, not rail-thin, but not plus-sized. And if you call that "extra weight"....
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 05:40 PM
Nov 2014

... I wonder what you'd think of most women out there.

She looks healthy. Something most models don't. I'm willing to bet her BMI is below 25, but certainly isn't an 18 or 16 BMI. (Considering I've been an 18.3 BMI before, and looked skeletal, the healthy range is where most women look their best.)

kcr

(15,314 posts)
38. Your post is exactly why those in this thread snarking that CC didn't call her plus sized are wrong
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 06:01 PM
Nov 2014

You are proof positive that marketing works.

Response to kcr (Reply #38)

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
45. Calvin Klein did not "label her a plus size".
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 07:51 PM
Nov 2014

My understanding is that the "plus size" label came from someone on Twitter.

Response to cali (Original post)

moriah

(8,311 posts)
34. You are the exact same BMI as me, 22.3.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 05:44 PM
Nov 2014

That's at 5'1 and 118.

At 97 lbs I was a BMI of 18.3. I looked sick, my hair was thinning, my bones showed, and size 2 jeans at Target were too big for me. I could wear juniors size 1, but they gaped at the waist to fit my hips (juniors sizes are not designed to accommodate curves).

At least you aren't aiming into eating disorder territory on your "ideal" (15 lbs less would put you at a 20 BMI), but remember that you're still well within a healthy weight.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
30. Department store plus-size mannequins are size 10 ....
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 05:09 PM
Nov 2014

I had a retail job where I used to dress them for display. I would have to pin up all the excess fabric from size 16 clothes on the back side of the mannequin to make it somewhat fit on the front side.

Next time you are in department store, check out the back of the mannequin. Pins and clips.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
43. In the real world Size 10 is AVERAGE
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 07:48 PM
Nov 2014

Hell, tall women can be a size 16 and still be of a healthy weight.

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