Kirk Cameron Warns Against Drinking Pagan Kool-Aid this Christmas

[KamaAina]

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/11/13/kirk-cameron-warns-drinking-pagan-kool-aid-christmas.html

The War on Christmas is going to be with us again all through this holiday season, and Kirk Cameron has put himself right at the forefront. As I reported here earlier, Cameron is going to be saving Christmas this holiday season with his new film, “Kirk Cameron’s Saving Christmas.”

Having just finished with efforts to steal Halloween from Celtic Pagans, where it is known as Samhain, (pronounced ‘Sowin’), Kirk the Grinch wants to prove once and for all that Christmas is 100% Evangelical Christian and that Jesus was born on December 25....

The Christian Post tells us that, “In his first release since ‘Unstoppable,’ Cameron aims to ‘put the Christ back in Christmas’ this holiday season by attempting to debunk disparaging theories surrounding Christmastime.”

The fact – and it is a fact – that Christmas is celebrated on the Pagan holiday of December 25, is hardly disparaging, since facts cannot be disparaging. They can only be facts. It’s lamentable that Kirk Cameron feels insulted by facts, but there is little we can do but to tell him to pull up those big boy britches and soldier on.

[JustAnotherGen]

1. He also let us women know

That we are supposed to do all the Normal Rockwell shit but he forgot the part about going to church. Different thread on his statements.

[bravenak]

4. Right?

I felt like he jumped out of the fifties and forgot women have jobs. My husband does the cleaning and laundry. I like to do the kitchen, but he's better when he does it. We used to run a family Motel and I had to clean rooms and run it when my mother went on vacation every other week, seemed like. Hated it. Decided to never be a cleaning woman and I respect maids.

Boy he sure has alot of work for us to do.

[JustAnotherGen]

9. If I ever meet Leonardo DiCaprio

I'm going to ask him what turned Kirk Cameron into such a freak. I'm serious - they were on that show together all of those years ago and I want to know . . .

What made that kid such a freak?

That's the only purpose he serves - dirt on Mr. 'Fireproof' Cameron.

My husband and I watched that - okay - 1/3 of it - and he's like . . . . Enough of this Jesus shit. Jesu Christo!

[bravenak]

11. I wish he would just spill it already!!

I think the boy was indoctrinated in somy way. His sister was the one on Full House, right? I bet Jodie Sweeten(sp?) knows too. And the Olsen twins. They need a tell all reunion show... Like Three's company did.

[JustAnotherGen]

13. So true!

And yep - his sister married the Hockey Player and was on Full House.

I think there was a 3rd actor in the family too - or is that maybe Kirks wife.

It was a big deal when he got married to her since she was from the Rochester area.

[niyad]

2. thanks for the article.

[muntrv]

3. So what about the Christmas tree? That is based on Pagan traditions.

[HockeyMom]

5. Yep

They even told us that in Catholic school 50 years ago. Oh, NOOOOOOO.

[Cleita]

7. Yep. Many pagan traditions are celebrated by the Church

especially the Irish ones.

[Cleita]

6. Christmas is pagan in roots.

The early Christians decided it was also a good time to celebrate the birth of Christ because the winter solstice is a celebration of the new beginning when we start moving back towards the sun.

[hifiguy]

25. Of course it is. Anyone who has read any history

knows that it is nothing more than a corruption of the Romans' Saturnalia. The entire Xmas story was reverse engineered onto it as a tool to aid in converting the "pagans." Not that real history ever tarnishes the "mind" of any fundie.

[Brickbat]

8. I have an acquaintance who won't celebrate Christmas because it is so pagan.

Jesus didn't celebrate Christmas, so she won't. I can't remember what church she follows.

[hughee99]

10. I don't know why that sort of stuff bother me.

She certainly has the right to celebrate or not celebrate whatever she wants to for whatever reason, but this idea of "Jesus didn't so I won't" has always struck me as downright stupid.

Jesus didn't get off his computer, jump in his car, drive down to a church, sit through a mass, go out to Tim Horton's after and then return to his air conditioned home to watch college football either. Hell, Jesus was Jewish, not even an evangelical christian.

[Brickbat]

18. Yeah, it's some sort of thing where they try to follow the "early church" of the apostles,

they hold church at home, essentially follow the Jewish calendar, etc.

[Orsino]

12. Playing the victim again. Still. n/t

[TlalocW]

14. I was disappointed to learn

That the Grumpy Cat Christmas movie was going to be a Lifetime movie and not in theaters. I was hoping to see it beat Cameron's Christmas movie at the box office.

TlalocW

[longship]

15. There is always the banana.

The atheist's nightmare. (From Kirk Cameron's mentor, Ray Comfort):

Of course, he is really, really talking about a banana here. (Sometimes a banana is just a banana -- No, really!)

I like this satirical interpretation better.

[hifiguy]

24. Every evolutionary biologist in the world

would laugh themselves sick.

I prefer to get my scientific insights from the likes of Richard Dawkins, Michio Kaku and Neil deGrasse Tyson, thank you. Ya know, SCIENTISTS!

[alarimer]

16. I couldn't find pagan kool-aid on the shelf.

I had to settle for cherry.

[KamaAina]

22. Jim Jones must have bought it all up.

[Initech]

17. Pagan Kool Aid is playing the Troubadour next week. I've got my tickets!

[Warpy]

19. Then he'll be taking his sour face to some joyless church

on Xmas day and going home to nothing special: no tree, no gifts, no feast, no lights, no nothing.

He wants to avoid all that Pagan stuff.

[wandy]

20. Sometimes you just can't help your self................

Hay Kirk......

Bah Humbug!

Yes its starting.

[mikeysnot]

21. OK, I won't do that on Christmas

but I will do it on the winter solstice....

[hifiguy]

23. My Festivus Pole is pagan?

Who knew? All the more reason to put it up.

[KamaAina]

28. It just gives Kirk one more grievance to air.

[hifiguy]

29. To quote Hawkeye Pierce,

"Some people invite abuse, Frank. It would be impolite to not oblige you."

[Dont call me Shirley]

26. Kirk will have to tell Walmart to stop promoting the war game HALO then. Christ was a pacifist.

[bravenak]

27. I love Kool Aid.

Especially Pagan Punch.

[kydo]

30. God forbid poor Kirk ever read a history book.

He might see something like this.

In Colonial America, the Puritans of New England shared radical Protestant disapproval of Christmas. Celebration was outlawed in Boston from 1659 to 1681. The ban by the Pilgrims was revoked in 1681 by English governor Sir Edmund Andros, however it was not until the mid-19th century that celebrating Christmas became fashionable in the Boston region.

At the same time, Christian residents of Virginia and New York observed the holiday freely. Pennsylvania German Settlers, pre-eminently the Moravian settlers of Bethlehem, Nazareth and Lititz in Pennsylvania and the Wachovia Settlements in North Carolina, were enthusiastic celebrators of Christmas. The Moravians in Bethlehem had the first Christmas trees in America as well as the first Nativity Scenes. Christmas fell out of favor in the United States after the American Revolution, when it was considered an English custom. George Washington attacked Hessian (German) mercenaries on the day after Christmas during the Battle of Trenton on December 26, 1776, Christmas being much more popular in Germany than in America at this time.

link

or

The celebratory customs associated in various countries with Christmas have a mix of pagan, pre-Christian, Christian, and secular themes and origins. Popular modern customs of the holiday include gift giving, Christmas music and caroling, an exchange of Christmas cards, church celebrations, a special meal, and the display of various Christmas decorations, including Christmas trees, Christmas lights, nativity scenes, garlands, wreaths, mistletoe, and holly. In addition, several closely related and often interchangeable figures, known as Santa Claus, Father Christmas, Saint Nicholas, and Christkind, are associated with bringing gifts to children during the Christmas season and have their own body of traditions and lore. Because gift-giving and many other aspects of the Christmas festival involve heightened economic activity among both Christians and non-Christians, the holiday has become a significant event and a key sales period for retailers and businesses. The economic impact of Christmas is a factor that has grown steadily over the past few centuries in many regions of the world. link

But then again, its Kirk Cameron and he is definitely lacking in the smarts area most of time. And I am sure many guilable people will drink is right wing war on Christmas flavored kool-aid that is supplied by people with money and interest in making money from all the gifts we are required to buy to have the correct version of Christmas this year. Eh, what ever ... Kirk can go suck a Christmas tree.

[Archae]

31. Cameron doesn't even read his own Bible.

It says when Christmas is supposed to have been.

Luke 2, 8-9.

"When shepherds watched their flocks by night."

Shepherds still do this today.

When their ewes have lambs, local jackals love lamb for dinner.

Sheep give birth in SPRING.

[jmowreader]

32. Dat boy coocoo as Cocoa Puffs, I'm here to tell ya

Jesus is not the reason for the season. There are two other reasons.

The most important is the people they forced into Christianity refused to give up their winter traditions, so the early Christians decided to invent Jesus-themed explanations for them.

The second most important reason? Celebrating Jesus' birthday when babies were really birthed 2000 years ago would put Christmas into Lent.

BTW, you know why June is the traditional month for weddings? Count forward nine months.