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MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 03:52 PM Nov 2014

Harvard Students Take 1964 Literacy Test Black Voters Had To Pass Before Voting — They All Failed

AUTHOR: VALERIE BEAUMONT NOVEMBER 12, 2014 11:32 AM

Recently, a group of Harvard students were asked to take the 1964 Louisiana Literacy Test — one of the extreme efforts to stop African Americans from voting that eventually led to the passing of the Voting Rights Act. Since racism is no longer a thing in America, according to the Supreme Court, and the Voting Rights Act has been effectively gutted, it might be time for a lesson from the past.

The test required those who took it to correctly answer 30 questions in 10 minutes — something even a group of Harvard students could not do today. The students were recorded struggling with the vaguely-worded questions. Under Louisiana law at the time these students would each require a 100% score on the test to be able to vote.

Carl Miller, a resident tutor at Harvard who administered the test, says that the purpose of the students’ participation was to teach them how unjust the electoral process was toward African Americans.

“Exactly 50 years ago, states in the American South issued this exact test to any voter who could not ‘prove a fifth grade education,'” said Miller. “Unsurprisingly, the only people who ever saw this test were blacks and, to a lesser extent, poor whites trying to vote in the South.”

Miller said he hoped to “see if some of the ‘brightest young minds in the world” could pass a test that was intended to “prove” someone had at least a fifth-grade education, according to the Daily Mail.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/11/12/harvard-students-take-1964-literacy-test-black-voters-had-to-pass-before-voting-they-all-failed/




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Harvard Students Take 1964 Literacy Test Black Voters Had To Pass Before Voting — They All Failed (Original Post) MrScorpio Nov 2014 OP
The story here is not that Jenoch Nov 2014 #1
Doable yes, ChazII Nov 2014 #2
it appears the stupidity is not all on the Harvard students CatWoman Nov 2014 #4
The 10-minute time limit doesn't help. arcane1 Nov 2014 #3
Where is the answer key? Xyzse Nov 2014 #5
That's part of the deviousness: there is no key JHB Nov 2014 #22
That's pretty much why I asked. Xyzse Nov 2014 #25
Designed also to eat up those ten minutes. arcane1 Nov 2014 #30
How much education do you have? Many of the people taking that test then probably had little jwirr Nov 2014 #7
I am judging the Harvard students, Jenoch Nov 2014 #8
I just wondered since I almost made it but my 3 year old great granddaughter came in and I gave up. jwirr Nov 2014 #9
That's a good reason to stop with the test. Jenoch Nov 2014 #24
Yes, they are precious. Mine then went off to play in a room she shares with her sister, found a jwirr Nov 2014 #26
When I was little Jenoch Nov 2014 #28
LOL jwirr Nov 2014 #37
I've been reading the responses to this test on other websites Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #11
I agree defending a voting 'test' designed to make sure you fail Rex Nov 2014 #14
Are you saying I was defending a literacy test in order to vote? Jenoch Nov 2014 #29
He also makes a point to say it was Democrats that came up with it JonLP24 Nov 2014 #16
Stood out like a sore thumb to me. nt RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #17
Yup. Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #18
check out his other posts, pretty consistent way of thinking JI7 Nov 2014 #20
The Dixiecrats who became Dixiepublicans JHB Nov 2014 #23
Bingo Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2014 #21
Yes the story here is an injustice was done. Giving people 10 minutes Rex Nov 2014 #13
Oh please. They're not stupid for failing that test. RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #15
I am going to go ahead and say I disbelieve you MattBaggins Nov 2014 #19
In 10 minutes! I am willing to bet that many of the LA white voters cannot pass this test. I think jwirr Nov 2014 #6
ROFLMAO! KamaAina Nov 2014 #10
LOL, Any excuse to bring up Yale. bettyellen Nov 2014 #31
Well, at least I'm a counterweight to George W. Bush '68. KamaAina Nov 2014 #33
yes, cum laude. We know. bettyellen Nov 2014 #35
But did you also know that I transferred in from the University of New Haven? KamaAina Nov 2014 #36
Most of the questions are (purposefully) badly worded, confusing, and/or ambiguous. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #12
We should make the 5 Repuke supremes take this thing. LeftInTX Nov 2014 #27
I saw a short piece on this @ HLN am news, and they all but left out the entire context... bettyellen Nov 2014 #32
Sheesh. This whole thing makes the SAT look like a 3rd grade multiplication test. nt alp227 Nov 2014 #34
 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
1. The story here is not that
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 04:02 PM
Nov 2014

an injustice was done in the South (then mostly controlled by Democrats) by administering this literacy test 50 years ago. The story is how stupid the Harvard students are for not being able to pass the test today. I took the test, it is doable.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
3. The 10-minute time limit doesn't help.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 04:10 PM
Nov 2014

That, and the crazy wording of some of the questions, is what leads to failure. Especially since anything less than 100% is considered a failure.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
5. Where is the answer key?
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 04:12 PM
Nov 2014

I am curious about some of the answers actually.
Especially since you have to score 100% to pass.

The ones I am having a bit of trouble with is the ones mentioning draw a line around, rather than saying under or above a word or letter. Especially since they mention "circle" certain words given a specific condition.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
22. That's part of the deviousness: there is no key
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 06:50 PM
Nov 2014

Some of the ambiguous wording is deliberate: it lets the grader shift which interpretation is being used in order to ensure the answer is graded as "wrong" and thereby deny the person the vote (which was the actual goal of the test anyway).

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
25. That's pretty much why I asked.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 08:54 PM
Nov 2014

The post I was replying to mentioned being able to pass the test.
Which is why I was confused, as some of it is subjective to the individual giving the test and "correcting" it.
Also, they would have had to have had a 100% on it as well.

Which was why I wanted to see an answer key.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
30. Designed also to eat up those ten minutes.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 11:14 PM
Nov 2014

A ticking clock, ambiguous questions, and answers open to interpretation. That's enough to make anyone nervous, especially when lynching was still considered acceptable!

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
7. How much education do you have? Many of the people taking that test then probably had little
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 04:18 PM
Nov 2014

quality education. Remember the students being walked into the white schools?

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
8. I am judging the Harvard students,
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 04:47 PM
Nov 2014

not those forced to take the test years ago.

I am a college graduate with a double major. I admit to being a writer and editor.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
9. I just wondered since I almost made it but my 3 year old great granddaughter came in and I gave up.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 04:56 PM
Nov 2014

Thank you.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
24. That's a good reason to stop with the test.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 07:53 PM
Nov 2014

My nephew's wife just had my father's fifth great-granddaughter.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
26. Yes, they are precious. Mine then went off to play in a room she shares with her sister, found a
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 09:36 PM
Nov 2014

kids scissors and proceeded to cut her hair. She not has a very short bob. They keep us going.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
28. When I was little
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 10:41 PM
Nov 2014

my older brother and I gave each other haircuts. We had buzzcuts for several years after that.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
11. I've been reading the responses to this test on other websites
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 04:59 PM
Nov 2014

The first reaction conservatives have is how easy the test is and how the Harvard students should pass it.

You post in the gunner forum

Nuff said.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
29. Are you saying I was defending a literacy test in order to vote?
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 10:53 PM
Nov 2014

I did not do that. My intent was to point out that a Harvard student shoild be able to pass the test. The wordong is a bit tricky, but it is doable. I understand the intent of the test all those years ago was to make those taking the test to fail and to not be able to vote. That's the way things were done in the south back then. My pointing that out and my support for the Democratic Platform and the U.S. Constitution on RKBA has nothing to do with this thread.

I have over 7,000 posts and have been on DU since 2006.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
16. He also makes a point to say it was Democrats that came up with it
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 05:47 PM
Nov 2014

Yeah the same Democrats that left the Party when Truman ran on a civil rights platform.

Not fooling me.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
18. Yup.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 06:06 PM
Nov 2014

Another standard right wing talking point:

"Democrats are the real racists because they supported Jim Crow and the South in the Civil War".

Of course all those racist Dems have long fled the party and are now GOPers.

Right wingers are easy to spot.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
13. Yes the story here is an injustice was done. Giving people 10 minutes
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 05:04 PM
Nov 2014

was to stress them out and fail. A voting test lol.

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
15. Oh please. They're not stupid for failing that test.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 05:43 PM
Nov 2014

"Because the test was designed to allow officials to conveniently interpret any and all answers as wrong, not a single student passed."

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
6. In 10 minutes! I am willing to bet that many of the LA white voters cannot pass this test. I think
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 04:15 PM
Nov 2014

it should be given to them in order to vote.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
33. Well, at least I'm a counterweight to George W. Bush '68.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 01:33 AM
Nov 2014

And I made cum laude, which is more than he can say, or even spell.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
36. But did you also know that I transferred in from the University of New Haven?
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 01:44 AM
Nov 2014

which, oddly enough, is in next-door West Haven. Yale College only takes about 50 transfer students a year, depending on how many students leave, or die.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
12. Most of the questions are (purposefully) badly worded, confusing, and/or ambiguous.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 05:01 PM
Nov 2014

This is the kind of "test" that could be used to prevent anyone from voting, no matter how literate, or smart, they were. Which of course is the purpose of it.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
32. I saw a short piece on this @ HLN am news, and they all but left out the entire context...
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 11:25 PM
Nov 2014

They were very vague but explained it was designed to fail you- and one of the hosts was like "Why would they do THAT?!" and the other murmured something about ti being racist. It was odd, like they wanted to report on the amusing failure of Harvard kids, but provide NO context.

Thanks for posting it!

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