Michael Brown Shooting: Darren Wilson Radio Call Segment Missing

[eridani]

Quelle surprise!!

http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/345-justice/26987-michael-brown-shooting-darren-wilson-radio-call-segment-missing

A call for backup that a police officer claims to have made seconds before he killed Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, reportedly cannot be found in police recordings. The officer blames the problem on his radio.

Darren Wilson has told investigators he radioed “shots fired, send all cars” after a struggle at his SUV with Brown, an unarmed 18-year-old, following the officer’s stop of Brown and a friend for jaywalking in Ferguson on 9 August, according to the St Louis Post-Dispatch.

Yet a set of recordings released to the newspaper by police did not include the call. Wilson is reported to have stated that “during the struggle his radio had been jarred and the channel changed”, meaning it was not broadcast to his fellow officers in the St Louis suburb.

“At least one channel on the Ferguson police radio is ‘receive-only,’ meaning that the call may not have been broadcast,” the newspaper said in its report on Friday evening. Wilson shot Brown repeatedly soon after allegedly making the request for assistance.

A series of witnesses told media in the days after the shooting that Brown had surrendered to the officer after fleeing and may have had his hands up. Wilson is said to have told investigators the 18-year-old had in fact turned and charged towards him.

The killing of Brown, who was African American, by a white officer led to nights of protests. Police clashed repeatedly with demonstrators, firing teargas and rubber bullets and making dozens of arrests. Ferguson is anxiously awaiting the decision of a grand jury on whether Wilson should face criminal charges for the shooting.

[nc4bo]

1. How convenient.

[avebury]

11. Just what I was thinking. nt

[bravenak]

2. Yeah right.

[DirkGently]

3. Have we even seen Wilson's report?

The core thing that still strikes me about this case is the Ferguson Police Dept.'s refusal to make ANY affirmative statement as to what actually happened. The police report is supposed to be a public record. Where is it?*

We got a leaked security video regarding stolen cigars.

We got a call to a radio station from "a friend of Wilson's wife" alleging Michael Brown was "charging," etc.

We got a Grand Jury impaneled with zero suggested charges, which is highly unusual, and the likewise highly unusual circumstance of the accused testifying (usually the accused does not testify, because they don't have to, and they cannot present an actual defense -- it's the prosecutor's show entirely).

And now all we're getting is increasing signs of preparations to defend the police from a possible angry protest / "rioters."

No sign at all the police have any interest in the truth of the matter, or even that they think Wilson is innocent. It's been 100% defensive posturing and preparation for violent conflict with the citizenry.

*Edit: Apparently the ACLU was given a report, but with the entire narrative of the incident redacted.
http://news.yahoo.com/ferguson-releases-incomplete-police-report-on-death-of-michael-brown-221844542.html

[gvstn]

12. +1

[sheshe2]

4. Oh Darren...

What a wuss you are. You had a gun, and you so feared for your life. Oh, now the channel was changed on your radio, give me a fricking break. GD lying asshole is what you are.

[Rex]

17. I think Wilson backed up and opened the car door, it bounced off Brown and slammed shut

maybe one of the kids laughed and Wilson went right into what we've seen before - instant cop rage. Everything after that, was his murderous intent on killing Brown. For laughing at the car door closing.

Something that small.

[okieinpain]

40. yes sir, that appears to be his sop. n/t.

[jillan]

5. Just the fact that they are preparing for a civil war; ignoring the fact that the KKK is going to be

part of the war tells you everything.

They know they are wrong. They know they cannot convince the public why Wilson is going to walk away a free murderer so instead they are preparing for war. War on our city streets.

[BillZBubb]

9. You forget the half the public wants Wilson to walk free.

Another bunch don't care one way or another.

That's just the way it is in the "land of the free" these days.

[jwirr]

6. That must have been some struggle - he is setting in his car, Michael reaches in for some reason and

shots are fired, the radio is jarred and broken and they lose the transmission. I am sorry this is getting harder to believe all the time.

[MurrayDelph]

7. Don't forget

Wilson is simultaneously struggling to keep the gun, steering the car, and operating a hand-held radiomic. No wonder he accidentally turned the frequency selector.

[Spazito]

8. Missing radio call, missing reports, blank reports...

nothing suspicious about this, nothing at all.

[avebury]

13. My sister-in-law's brother was a police officer

with a dispatch officer on a ride along one day. They were behind someone that looked suspicious and when her brother pulled up his mike to call in the tag number the guy stomped on his brakes, stopped the car, jumped out and started to fire an Uzi at the police car. Her brother managed to get the dispatcher to duck quickly, put the car in reverse and, call in for help has he put the pedal to the metal peeling back away from the guy. He got shot three times in the process, fortunately none that were life threatening. Apparently when you swear on a police radio they figure that your really do need assistance. Cop cars from a lot of the surrounding areas can to assist but the guy got away.

It turned out the guy was Jeff Erickson from the Bonnie and Clyde bank robbers in the Chicago area.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1992-07-21/news/9203050628_1_fake-beard-bank-holdups-heists

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20112142,00.html

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1995-07-17/features/9507170006_1_filming-normal-life-robbery

There are a few cops that can multi task.

[arthritisR_US]

19. You forget one thing, Michael Brown was unarmed.

No shots were fired from him onto the police officer. Your comparison is bogus.

[avebury]

22. You missed the point I was making.

If a police is under threat (which believe it or not was Wilson's claim), a well trained cop can function in a manner that does not result in missing documentation (i.e. records, audio tapes, and so on). My argument would be that, given the history of the Ferguson PD, I would not be surprised if Wilson's actions are just the tip of the iceberg of questionable behavior. This is the second PD with problems that Wilson has worked for.

In the case I illustrated, my sister-in-law's brother was under a real threat and managed to keep his passenger safe and get them both away from the danger without getting into a gun battle. Wilson confronted 2 unarmed young men, escalated the situation, killed Brown and alleged claims of threat to his life and injury. Wilson showed poor training in the entire way he handled the situation and has no business being a cop.

[Tsiyu]

35. I understood what you said

This also goes to show Wilson was trigger happy. If he can't even manage to communicate properly in the heat of the moment, why was he given a weapon? He fired that weapon openly, hitting a nearby building, without regard for the safety of anyone else.

He was on a mission to kill, radio be damned, if you ask me.

He obviously can't handle the requirements of his job. He has been given pass after pass after pass. Hides, refuses to give testimony, this was wrong for him and that was wrong for him.

The fact is, the first murder in Ferguson is on his bloody hands. Those pasty white politicians might want to color the residents of Ferguson as thugs, but they didn't murder each other. If they are so violent and out of control, why was the first murder of the year committed by a white cop who doesn't live there?

Your sis-in-law's bro was properly trained. Wilson? Looks like all the force required from him was a violent personality and his racism.

They'd provide the Psuedo Military Backup with tanks and grenades. No matter what he did wrong.

[Spazito]

28. Obviously Brown can't multi-task or even complete one task...

completing required reports, etc.

This isn't a question of multi-tasking, it is a case of the murder of an unarmed black teenager and the coverup afterward.

[City Lights]

29. I graduated from high school with him!

I knew of him in school and was shocked when all of that went down!

[sabrina 1]

10. What a surprise!! n/t

[happyslug]

14. Prisoner in the front seat? Radio in the back seat? What is it????

When I see Police Cars, the Radio is in the front seat, this appears to be standard procedure since the 1930s (The days of receiving only radios).

On the other hand I have NEVER heard of a prisoner being put in the FRONT SEAT of a Car. The rear seat, which have the door latches removed, yes, but never the front seat.

Thus if a fight occurred in the car, was it is the Front seat or the Rear Seat? Remember the alleged fight occurred BEFORE Brown "escaped" and was shot. Was Brown in the Front seat or the back seat? If Brown was in the front seat why?

Now, the officer COULD have stopped his vehicle and started to ask Brown some questions and then decided to grab Brown and drag Brown into the Car (or Brown decided to charge the car). Under either situation Brown would have ended up in the front seat and then "knocked" the radio to a receive only mode.

The problem is, either way does NOT make sense. Why would someone charge a Police Car, then run away, then stop and get shot? Why would a police officer try to drag a suspect into the front seat of his patrol car?

I am trying to be opened minded about this case, but to many answers lead to more questions then answers.

It is looking like the Police Officer stopped talked to Brown, then drove off and then slammed on the brakes, put the car into reverse, went back to Brown and grabbed Brown. Again makes NO sense. When the Officer grabbed Brown, they fought in the front seat of the patrol car. Brown broke free and started to run away. The Officer then and only then exited his car, pulled his gun and demanded Brown to stop. Some question as to when the Officer opened fire and when Brown stopped running, but that can be a rush of the movement situation. i.e. you act on instinct and training not thinking (and this apply to both the Officer and Brown).

Thus the real question is NOT the actual shooting, but what happened inside the patrol car. That set up what happened afterward (including the Shooting). The reports said the Officer did stop his car, talked to Brown, then drove off and hit the brakes hard. Then you had the "Fight" but it is beginning to look like the Officer tried to grab Brown while the Officer was in the Patrol car. That makes no sense from a training point of view (i.e. GET OUT OF THE CAR and stand up, sitting in a car puts you at a huge disadvantage in a fist fight). Thus officers are trained to exit their cars NOT drive them back.

I hate to say this, but I suspect the Officer and Brown Talked, as the Officer speed away, Brown said something about police officers that the Officer took personally. The officer then hit his brakes, and drove back to Brown and started to attack Brown from inside the patrol car. I can see the officer grabbing Brown in a fit of rage and trying to beat Brown up while the Officer is still sitting in the driver's seat of his patrol car, while Brown is trying to break free. Brown breaks free, the officer finally exits his car and shoots Brown. All of this in a fit of rage.

That is beginning to sound like what happened. That "Fit of Rage" scenario sounds like it fits the facts the best. Given the nature of most such fits, the Officer may not even remember what was said and why he did what he did (With the exception of the shooting, which was a few minutes later).

I can NOT bring my self to believe any officer would knowingly have someone inside his patrol car for any reason other than in the back seat. I can see an officer talking to someone while in the Driver's seat but the Officer being prepared to use the door as a "weapon" to push any attack away (AND winding up the window during any such attack). Both would have prevented Brown from doing anything on the officer, including doing anything to the radio.

Something is wrong here and I suspect the Officer had a fit of rage over something that the Police Department want to cover up, for such a fit of rage implies the Officer involved should NOT have been a police officer and thus the Police Department is liable.

[Rex]

15. No police report, no recording calling for back up, no broken eyesocket

Fled like a criminal from the crime scene. How can anyone defend this lying scumbag? Sadly, I think he is going to walk right back into his job.

[Blue_Tires]

30. +1

[joshcryer]

16. The "we have a problem" quote stood out to me.

It was as if that officer arrived on scene and wasn't aware that a fellow officer murdered someone.

[DallasNE]

18. Doesn't Make Sense

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Police radio's are digital so how could bumping change the frequency. Indeed, if that were the case every pot hole the cruiser hits would potentially cause a frequency change. Can't even give credit for a nice try here.

[Dirty Socialist]

20. Yeah Sure

I don't believe the radio wasn't working right. Add "obstruction of justice" to the charges.

[Odin2005]

21. The Piggies are nothing but a state-sanctioned gang.

I dare say many places would be safer if there were no police.

[KingCharlemagne]

36. In the Ramparts Division in Los Angeles, an entire unit of LAPD were

implicated in planting drugs and guns on citizens and even shooting them without cause on a couple occasions.

The entire scandal was pretty much brushed under the carpet and, since the victims were predominantly Latino and black lower class inner city residents, no one said "boo" at the cover-up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampart_scandal

[rock]

23. Let's read that speculation right into evidence, OK?

[belzabubba333]

24. this whole thing is a sham of a mockery

[alcibiades_mystery]

25. Ay yay yay

Wilson told these guys to get out the street, and Brown lipped off to him. Wilson pulls away, but then decides he's not gonna take lip from this "punk" (we know the word he really used), so he reverses on them fast. He's gonna intimidate the big one by showing him his firearm. He calls Brown over (in the same tone that he told the other guy that he'd "lock his ass up&quot , and begins pulling his firearm from its place. The gun goes off accidentally. Brown freaks out, possibly because he was grazed by the shot, pulls away and takes off. Wilson, at this point, has to kill him. Or lose his job and probably serve some time. So Brown ends up dead.

That's how this went down. And it's far more plausible than any explanation the cops or Wilson have offered. There is no dispatch because he didn't call in the original shots. Because he couldn't. It was happening too fast and he had to kill Michael Brown.

This is a first degree, premeditated murder, make no mistake.

And he's going to get away with it.

[phil89]

31. Well wvidence doesn't support that

it looks like there was a struggle in the police car... And it's doubtful a cop would try to pull someone in through the window.

[alcibiades_mystery]

33. Not only does the evidence support it, it is a far more plausible explanation of the evidence

Wilson pulls his gun as Brown approaches the window. He's going to show this punk what's up. The gun goes off accidentally while he's brandishing it at Brown at the window, possibly striking him. This causes Brown to attempt to deflect the weapon and flee. Meanwhile, Wilson, also startled and panicked by the accidental discharge, grabs at Brown, trying to hold him there.

That's a far more plausible scenario for the struggle in the car than the idea that Brown, out of nowhere and with no seeming motivation, attempted to grab a holstered or otherwise inactive weapon. That's ridiculous. We can safely dispense with the idea that Wilson was seeking to detain Brown for the store robbery: the dispatches don't match the timeline. He either knew about the store robbery when he first saw them or not. If he did, it makes the initial words and sudden reversal - which everyone acknowledges - unlikely.

Again, far more plausible is that Brown mouthed off, Wilson got pissed and did the sudden reversal for the purpose of teaching Brown a lesson about authority. We already can see Wilson in action as a "respect mah autoritah" kind of dude in his ridiculous arrest of the guy filming him.

Dude was playing a tough guy. His gun went off by accident. At that point, he was pot-committed, and he decided to murder Michael Brown. It's a first degree, pre-meditated murder.

[KingCharlemagne]

37. Since the DA McCulloch is derelict in his duty to present charges for which

he thinks probable cause might exist (no doubt b/c McCulloch doesn't think Wilson did anything wrong) to the Grand Jury, I hope one or more of the Grand Jurors had the presence of mind to ask his or her colleagues this question:

"How did Wilson's firearm first come to be out of its holster?"

Alternatively:

"What cause did Wilson have to draw his firearm?"

BTW, bravo! for your hypothetical reconstruction of events.

[alcibiades_mystery]

38. It also explains

why Wilson would shoot at a fleeing Brown. If Brown gets away or lives, Wilson is well fucked. As soon as the gun accidentally discharges, Wilson has a huge problem. He appears to have solved it in the best way he could.

[okieinpain]

41. how do you grab someone's gun that's sitting in a car. n/t.

[sakabatou]

26. Missing or taped over (a la Watergate tapes)?

[boatsfra]

27. Did anyone see the street Mr. Brown was "jaywalking" on?

Mr. Brown was "jaywalking" in a rural area. Same area as where I grew up in Massachusetts...his neighborhood. It was MY neighborhood...I looked both ways...crossed. No copper came and harassed me. Did Mr. Brown have to get shot? Seriously? Stopped for jaywalking? This is clearly a case of a white bigot shooting an unarmed black man for no reason. My guess Mr. Brown gave Ex-officer Willy the stink eye and Willy therefore felt disrespected. I hope the grand jury does the right thing for the common good. Officer Willy failed in his ability to live within our society. His one time on earth and he killed another man for jaywalking. His one time on earth and he failed miserably. He picked the wrong profession. Mostly gung-ho assholes become coppers.
Willy could have drove away...said "Hello...how goes it?"
Willy provoked Mr. Brown.
Why?
Mr. Brown was jaywalking.
Mr. Brown was the wrong color.
Send Willy away.
He proved he can't play along
with others.
He killed another.

[phil89]

32. So you're saying Wison

targeted him and just decided to kill him for no reason? What evidence is there to support that?

[boatsfra]

34. Mr. Brown was jaywalking in his neighborhood

That in itself is NO reason to kill anyone. Don't you read the news?

[The Green Manalishi]

39. "walking while black"

Good enough reason that the officer will be back on the force this time next year.