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damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:47 PM Nov 2014

Police killing, beating of civilians raise issue of reasonable force

A wooden cross on a narrow, tree-lined road marks the spot where Samantha Ramsey died a violent death.

Passersby might think the marker, etched with the 19-year-old's name and a yellow smiley face, is a memorial to a car crash victim. They would be wrong.

In April, Ramsey was killed when a sheriff's deputy fired four bullets through her car windshield as she left a party on the banks of the Ohio River. Ramsey, who did not have a gun, was dead before her mother got to the hospital. A grand jury took one day to review evidence — including the deputy's testimony that he feared for his life — before declaring the shooting justified.

With that, Ramsey's relatives joined the ranks of families who demand answers about why lethal force was used, and who decides what is reasonable use of force."


*Ramsey, a cheerleader in high school, was known for her habit of bringing home strays — both pets and people, her mother said. "I raised more friends of hers than I care to count," said Stewart, a nurse who raised Ramsey and her two older brothers in Covington."

*Ramsey was buried May 2 beside her father, Robert Ramsey, who died of a heart attack last year. On a recent afternoon, the hilltop grave was decorated with an American flag and cheery signs of autumn: a bunch of orange flowers and two smiling scarecrows.

Brockman returned to work Nov. 10."

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-police-prosecution-20141116-story.html#page=2

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Police killing, beating of civilians raise issue of reasonable force (Original Post) damnedifIknow Nov 2014 OP
Police departments' definitions of what's justifiable force are at odds with civilian definitions MrScorpio Nov 2014 #1
It's just a pathetic situation damnedifIknow Nov 2014 #2
We need a national commission on law enforcement standards and practices. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #3

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
1. Police departments' definitions of what's justifiable force are at odds with civilian definitions
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:59 PM
Nov 2014

Clearly most departments believe that pretty much 99% percent of use of force is just fine. Even higher when there's no camera involved, 99.5%, let's say.

It's even higher than that when we're talking about use of force against black and brown people.

It's obliviously the duty of our police to harrass, bully, beat and even kill us. Not to mention taking our property away from us under civil asset forfeiture laws.

To the police themselves and their supporters, very little is deemed as unreasonable.

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