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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUkraine: War Crimes as a Path to Winning War?
http://veragraziadei.com/2014/11/17/war-crimes-as-path-to-winning-war/War Crimes as a Path to Winning War?
Veragraziadei
11/17/14
Last week in a candid address to Ukrainian nationalists in the Odessa Opera House, president Petro Poroshenko outlined how he is planning to win the war in East Ukraine:
We (Ukraine) will have our jobs they (Donbas) will not. We will have our pensions they will not. We will have care for children, for people and retirees they will not. Our children will go to schools and kindergartens theirs will hole up in the basements. Because they are not able to do a thing. This is exactly how we will win this war!
The chocolate oligarch, backed by Brussels and Washington, is not afraid anymore to openly admit that the Ukrainian Army is targeting civilian buildings on purpose and forcing Donbass people and children into basements, in order to intimidate the population into leaving the area or surrender. Last week theres even been a direct attack on a maternity ward and the week before a mortar attack on school killed two school children.
While Kiev is always quick to blame rebels for all such incidents (an absurd suggestion that Donbass self-defence forces, comprised largely from the local population, would try to kill their own children), Poroshenkos speech confirms that these attacks are the deliberate war plan of the Ukrainian forces. The fact that indiscriminate shelling of civilian and public buildings is a war crime doesnt seem to deter Poroshenko, whos confident that with the EU and the US backing he can carry out this strategy with impunity.
Starting from the 15th November all dissenting eastern areas will not be protected by the European Convention on Human Rights anymore, as Poroshenko announced its suspension, citing a provision which allows some of the Conventions articles to be derogated by a signatory in time of war or other public emergency threatening the life of the nation. Officially only the right to life, the prohibition of torture and slavery, and the right not to be subjected to unlawful punishment will be respected (though shelling of civilians is a violation of these rights), while all the other rights including the right to liberty and security, the right to fair trial, right to respect for private and family life, will not be respected any more.
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Ukraine: War Crimes as a Path to Winning War? (Original Post)
Karmadillo
Nov 2014
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CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)1. Link?
Karmadillo
(9,253 posts)2. Thank you.
Igel
(35,274 posts)3. Alternative link
http://www.stopfake.org/en/lies-petro-poroshenko-promised-that-children-from-donbas-would-be-sitting-in-cellars/
In the long video at the bottom, the appropriate portion is from around minute 53 until 54. It continues. Context matters.
In a few places, the Channel 1 also telescopes together a few places in his speech to make him say something that he doesn't. You listen to one, you listen to the other, and you hear echoes. But they're not clear.
Tried and true methods of distorting things. Not entirely false, but nowhere near true.
However, a lot more people pay attention to Channel 1 and know Russian than can listen and follow the Ukrainian. (In some cases, Russian "cultural workers" and politicians find the very sound of Ukrainian offensive. Rather like living in Houston, Texas, and finding the sound of Spanish being spoken to be offensive. 'Nuff said.)
In the long video at the bottom, the appropriate portion is from around minute 53 until 54. It continues. Context matters.
In a few places, the Channel 1 also telescopes together a few places in his speech to make him say something that he doesn't. You listen to one, you listen to the other, and you hear echoes. But they're not clear.
Tried and true methods of distorting things. Not entirely false, but nowhere near true.
However, a lot more people pay attention to Channel 1 and know Russian than can listen and follow the Ukrainian. (In some cases, Russian "cultural workers" and politicians find the very sound of Ukrainian offensive. Rather like living in Houston, Texas, and finding the sound of Spanish being spoken to be offensive. 'Nuff said.)