Men’s Rights Activists: Nobody Wants To Work For Women — And It’s Not Sexist For Them To Say That!

[big_dog]

A group of men’s rights activists agreed during a video chat that they would rather work for a male boss than a female – and so would everyone else, probably. “I’ll say it, because I know women who’ve told me this, and I’ve seen women say this, if I were a woman looking to get into the sciences, a bunch of catty b*tches going after somebody in typically female relational aggression bullying fashion, that would turn me off, and I would think, I don’t want to go there,” said Dean Esmay, operations manager for A Voice For Men. “Because if they’re that mean to a guy, they’ll be even meaner to a girl they don’t like, and there is nothing — I’ll probably get some backup on this – women can be so f*cking nasty to each other.”

Esmay told Paul Elam, founder of the men’s rights website, and Tara Palmatier, a psychologist at Shrink4Men.com, that he was once bullied by three female colleagues, although he offered few specifics. “I was horrifically bullied, and I didn’t even know what was going on or how to stop it because I didn’t even understand it until (in) retrospect,” he said. “It was unbelievably nasty.”

He said “multiple surveys” had found “women dislike working for women more than men dislike working for women.” “I don’t think that’s internalized misogyny,” Esmay said. “I think it’s because we don’t teach women – whatever biological component there is, I don’t think we train women to lead in ways that don’t involve that kind of henpecking bullying that you see is very common among women, and that seems to typify most of feminism.”

Elam claimed he’d never spoken to a woman who said she would prefer to work with women instead of men – but he insisted the claim wasn’t misogynist because he was merely repeating the claims of women. “Listen to women for once,” Esmay agreed. “If we stop with the ‘women are weak and need to be empowered, they’re oppressed and they need to be empowered,’ and start talking bluntly about these things, even some of those women who are bad leaders now will stop being bad leaders because someone can point out, hey you’re being a b*tch. I didn’t call you a b*tch because you’re being tough, I called you a b*tch because you’re being a b*tch. There’s a difference.” http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/mens-right-activists-nobody-wants-to-work-for-women-and-its-not-sexist-to-say-that/

[cali]

1. fuck all these cretins with rusty farm implements.

also, the best boss I ever had was a woman.

[big_dog]

4. me too, especially older women

just my experience, they dont care to get into the battles and turf fights

[KamaAina]

8. The two best bosses I ever had were women.

[antiquie]

2. Ew.

[badtoworse]

3. In more than 40 years of working, I've only had one female boss and she was great

Can't tell anything by me - my experience is limited.

ETA: As I'm thinking about this, I've worked with two other women that had direct reports and there's no way I would have worked for either of them. Both were bitchy and condescending - I wouldn't have put up with it.

[Proud Public Servant]

5. I've reported to the same number of men and women

over the last 25 years (5 each); on the whole, the women have been the better bosses.

[el_bryanto]

9. It's tricky for me - i've had several phenomenal women bosses but the worst boss has also been

a female.

Being a good manager/boss is a skill like any other - and it doesn't confine itself to one sex or the other. Being a crummy boss is pretty much the same thing I suspect.

That said an argument can be made that in general the stock of female managers is better because they are expected to prove themselves more.

Bryant

[WillowTree]

6. I've had some really good and really awful bosses of both genders.

And while in the final analysis it all depends on the preson, all things considered, when given the choice I'd prefer to work for a man. And I daresay that many, if not most, of the people who've worked for me over the years probably feel the same way whether that has anything to do with me and/or my management style or not.

[KamaAina]

7. "Esmay told Paul Elam, founder of the men’s rights website"

Elam = male spelled backwards.

[LanternWaste]

10. His claims sound irrational, hysterical, overly-emotional and rather catty.

His claims sound irrational, hysterical, overly-emotional and rather catty. I think a few chocolates and a bubble-bath would calm him down...

[Codeine]

11. Both my bosses are women.

I have no issues with that. We work well together.

[TexasProgresive]

12. WOW, I just figured that in 44 years of working I've had 25 supervisors

2 of those were women. I would rank about 10th from the top and the other was in the top 3 best ever supervisors. I would be happy to be working for either of these women especially compared to the dufus we got now.

[Feral Child]

13. Nonsense.

Circular logic.