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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLOL!!!: Appropriations panel: Defunding immigration order "IMPOSSIBLE"
Republicans were really all-in on this idea that they could defund the order without shutting down the government. And now they've got like a day to figure out their next super-sneaky maneuver to ensure that Obama can't slow deportations. Or they can just keep insisting they can do the thing that's "impossible." Denying reality is a favored Republican strategy, after all.http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/11/20/1346184/-Oops-GOP-s-plan-for-shutting-down-Obama-s-immigration-action-is-impossible
It would be impossible" to defund President Obamas executive actions on immigration through a government spending bill, the House Appropriations Committee said Thursday.
In a statement released by House Appropriations Chairman Hal Rogers's (R-Ky.) office hours before Obama's scheduled national address, the committee said the primary agency responsible for implementing Obama's actions is funded entirely by user fees.
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This agency is entirely self-funded through the fees it collects on various immigration applications," the committee said in the statement, which was provided to The New York Times. "Congress does not appropriate funds for any of its operations, including the issuance of immigration status or work permits, with the exception of the E-Verify program. Therefore, the appropriations process cannot be used to defund the agency."
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We cannot, literally cannot, defund that agency in an appropriations bill because we dont appropriate that agency. That agency is entirely fee funded, Hing said.
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/224837-appropriations-panel-defunding-immigration-order-impossible#.VG4Q5YEHoiY.twitter
elleng
(130,145 posts)on their own petards!
Ykcutnek
(1,305 posts)Ykcutnek
(1,305 posts)TrollBuster9090
(5,953 posts)for is almost as much fun as watching them blather about "keeping government hands off of my Medicare."
Volaris
(10,260 posts)"..as American as Sasha or Maila.."
it was like I had a moment of being Psychic, and I swear my mind literally FELT the Haters' brain's twist into a hate-knot.
and I'm pretty sure, The President is doing this on purpose..like he's flat daring them to just go full-bore with their hateful, racist little selves and let it all out like they (rather correctly) KNOW they can't do. But ohhhhhhh, how they LONG for the "america" that would let them.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Stallion
(6,473 posts)Applicant/immigrants have been funding all that "wasted money" themselves
Spazito
(49,761 posts)their utter stupidity on display yet again.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Guess it's on to Plan B, that being shut down the government and go down in flames in 2016.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)kimbutgar
(20,879 posts)And if they don't pay the fines they lose the ability to do any government contracts until fines are paid.
I heard the Koch bros companies have government contracts.
stopwastingmymoney
(2,027 posts)Trekologer
(994 posts)"Defund" doesn't fix any problems, it simply punts on it. But it is an easy way for the GOP to make it seem that they are doing something without needing to make policy decisions that their base might not like.
onecaliberal
(32,484 posts)lark
(23,003 posts)Hell NO. They don't even recognize truth or reality, so will continue to push a shutdown for this purpose, knowing damn well it won't happen. They just want to prove that they have the power to fuck with everyone and will do it no matter what. they know their lackeys, the Kochs, will just bombard the airwaves with the brave congress blocking bad black president and the stupid sheeple will be proud. Of course, the people that are actually hurt by this may pay attention, but are the Repugs too stupid or venal to care?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)....oh wait,....
That was then,...this is now.
TrollBuster9090
(5,953 posts)Although, I wouldn't have minded if they'd done that to Marco Rubio, 40 years ago.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)redruddyred
(1,615 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)If you listened to Republicans at the time he was the magical Cuban boy who came over on the backs of dolphins as his mom drowned.
The Republicans were OUTRAGED that Janet Reno and Bill Clinton raided the place he was staying to send him back where he came from. (And to his father)
Back then they were pandering to the Cubans in Miami. Fast forward to today and they would applaud if the cops shot "Mexicans" on sight.
BTW: There are those on the Right who still pass around pictures of Elian all grown up in the Cuban military with a "If he had only been allowed to stay he wouldn't have gone in league with The Devil (AKA: Castro)" caption.
redruddyred
(1,615 posts)only a couple years apart elian and me.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)It's like a lost decade. People forget the Clinton Era started over 20 years ago.
redruddyred
(1,615 posts)did my best to pretend shrubya didn't exist. tho maybe it was this attitude which got him elected in the first place.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Chemisse
(30,793 posts)Passions were very very high. So he probably did.
It sure was a relief when that little boy went home to live with his father.
srican69
(1,426 posts)I will be cheering him on today
sammy750
(165 posts)They are quickly losing any possibility of winning in 2016. The need to get some brain power in the GOP and fire the radicals and extremists. Those groups do not get Presidential votes.
TrollBuster9090
(5,953 posts)With any luck, the next two years will resemble a rerun of a ROADRUNNER cartoon, with the GOP ordering lots of equipment to kill Obama from the ACME HERITAGE FOUNDATION.
malaise
(267,812 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)malaise
(267,812 posts)they are destroying government
Cha
(295,907 posts)JEB
(4,748 posts)Turbineguy
(37,208 posts)If only to do the country harm.
underpants
(182,274 posts)barbtries
(28,702 posts)they don't even know how the government they're supposed to be running works.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Because they could so easily pass a law that would replace Obama's executive order if they wanted to pass one that would get a few Democratic votes in the Senate.
But of course, then they would have to decide on an immigration policy.
This is the best example of Obama playing 12-dimensional chess with the Republicas.
His executive order just took the Republicans' queen, bishops, knights, castles and pawns all at once so to speak. They now have to protect their King with no supporting pieces. That is going to be very interesting.
Their two main contenders for the presidency in 2016, Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz are both supposed to steal a few Hispanic votes. This is getting interesting.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Chemisse
(30,793 posts)Is that it was anti-immigrant sentiment that made darned sure the government was not paying a single penny toward the processing of the immigrants.
Now it is back to bite them in the ass!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)IronLionZion
(45,258 posts)just to spite the e-verify system which is there for employers to check if workers are legally authorized to work in the US.
They don't like the government, and enjoy shutting it down to spite all those lazy workers by stopping us from working. They act like Wiley Coyote.
paleotn
(17,780 posts)what part of self funded and thus Congress can't simply turn off the money do these idiots not understand? And if they get that, do they think President Obama would actually sign legislation changing the funding process for said agency? And just for kicks, lets say they did defund CIS, don't they realize that adversely affects the light colored immigrants they seem to like or at least don't howl about? How fucking stupid can you get? ....wait.....don't answer that. I probably don't want to know.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)I looked at the Senate rules and they can't hold a trial without managers.
They are too stupid to try this.