Anothe Bill Cosby victim tells her story and it's DEVASTATING!!! SHIT!!!!

[bigdarryl]

http://www.wptv.com/news/region-c-palm-beach-county/west-palm-beach/local-woman-accuses-cosby-of-drugging-raping-her

[Logical]

2. Why not post a paragraph or two like most posters?? Nt

[Tommy_Carcetti]

12. Or keep it all within a single thread, instead of starting a different one every 5 minutes.

[Archae]

3. I guess DU has tried, convicted and is now waiting to execute Bill Cosby.

"Oh but a lot of women are saying he raped them!"

A 'lot of women" claimed Bill Clinton raped them, too.

[pnwmom]

6. More than 15 women and there is also that recording of him, in a comedy routine,

making jokes about drugging women and having sex with them.

When the Village Voice released that recording, that was the death knell of his career, IMO.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

9. please stop using the comedy routine

as a 'condemning' factor here. entertainers during a performance are not relaying what they HAVE done or WILL do... they're telling a story to make people laugh (in this case). it doesn't mean shit. if you want to use that as a criteria to suggest someone's actual behavior, then you better be prepared to condemn every actor/entertainer out there.

sP

[pnwmom]

11. It is the combination of the two that make him suspect. Most entertainers aren't accused of crimes

that they make jokes about.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

15. if that's you're criteria... ok n/t

[Miles Archer]

10. Here's the routine:

[LanternWaste]

14. I had no idea that DU could try and convict anyone

I had no idea that DU could try and convict anyone, and simply thought that actions as you've described were limited to jurists and courtrooms. Being the simpleton I am, I thought we merely discussed issues (both trivial and important and all points in-between) with the worst consequence being a few hurt feelings rather than an actual execution.

I guess we've given Bush's questionable actions a pass as he seems to me firmly ensconced in his north Dallas home rather than behind bars due to our legal super-powers.

(or possibly, the melodramatic word usage is used to simply mask the lack of any validity to a premise-- and begs a grim sounding orchestral track to add to a creative illusion of depth in the shallows)

[pnwmom]

18. None of these cases ever went to trial, so it's up to the public to form their own opinions.

In my opinion, he's lucky that none of the 15 (or more) women decided to file criminal charges. If she had, his career could have tanked long ago.

[Rex]

21. Please stop having an opinion on things, we should just all be robots

and wait for someone to program us with what we should think and say.

[Rex]

20. LOL. You just cannot stand other people having an opinion?

How strange.

[GusBob]

24. interesting

The "Bill Clinton did it too" is a right wing meme this week

So he stands with that opinion

[LostInAnomie]

4. I'm probably walking into a minefield here, but...

... if a man just raped you why would you spend the next few weeks staying at his penthouse? Or see him on several occasions for years afterwards? Or reach out to him years later to get money for getting good grades?

[Wella]

5. If the rape is part of a manipulative power relationship, the young woman might not realize:

1. That she has been raped (especially if drugs were used)
2. That what she has experienced is actually rape (especially if she has no model for normal male/female relations)
3. That she's not just imagining things (especially if she feels the need to please this man for some reason)
4. That the man doesn't really love her or care about her (especially if she has feelings for him).

The "women" Cosby allegedly raped were mostly "barely legal teens" (and at least one seems to have been a virgin at the time). Since some of these cases are quite old (dating to the 80s) they occurred before our current generational awareness of rape and all the different kinds of rape.

Remember, when most people think of rape, they think of the creepy stranger who jumps out of the bushes with a knife--ie, stranger rape. The whole concept of "date rape" was in its infancy in the 80s, and the idea that a man you trusted--hell, that America trusted, in Cosby's case--could really rape you was a mind-blowing concept.

I was in college in the 80s, and the RAs taught you to look for strangers who might rape you: to be careful in parking garages, to carry your key--yes your key--as a weapon. For anyone who remembers the comedienne Elayne Boozler, she did a really funny routine on this advice. But no one told you about how a male acquaintance that you thought was ok might rape you. The concept wasn't even really discussed.

As to why these women waited:

Bowman DIDN'T wait. She told several people at the time and even went to the police, who told her that no one would ever believe her. That was common too: the cops were not as well educated about rape as they are now and they would assume women were lying or might not even bother to file charges if the guy was famous. Things are slowly changing, but people still accuse women who come forward as being liars.

For those that did wait, just remember that when a rich and powerful man rapes you and you come forward, he will do everything he can to ruin your life--and he has the means to do it. If he is in the public eye, the media and the (adoring) public will defend him to the hilt, even if there is proof. Remember, even Ray Rice--a man who was VIDEOTAPED physically assaulting his fiance--had supporters, even among women. People have a tendency to believe their hearts and not their eyes (or common sense) when a public figure does bad things.

For many women, just getting out of the rape situation alive and not having their lives ruined is worth the pain of the silence of not coming forward. That is why many women move on and carry the pain with them, a pain that poisons their own lives. Eventually, when this woman is older and realizes that she needs to do right by the raped teenager she was, she will often speak out as an adult. It's part of the healing process.

[kwassa]

8. excellent post!

puts things in perspective well.

[Wella]

13. Thank you.

Rape is a crime that most men don't experience (outside of incarceration), but when they do, they often don't report it or wait until they are older to do so. They also don't get support in general.

[kelliekat44]

16. BS. She may not be lying but she is NOT victim. nt

[Wella]

22. If she isn't lying, then how is she not a victim?

And which "she" are you referring to?

[RedCappedBandit]

23. huh?

[mac56]

17. This is excellent.

Thank you.

[pnwmom]

7. The drugs made these young woman confused about what was happening to them.

And they kept going for the same reasons they started. They thought he'd help them in their careers.

It was the drug issue that made this rape, regardless of whether they saw him again.

[Rex]

19. I have to say, I am shocked at all this news coming out about Cosby.

Never in a million years would I have guessed he was a serial rapist. However, 20 women coming forward and his refusal to say anything in his own defense...really makes Cosby look guiltier than hell.