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Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 07:03 AM Nov 2014

Cosby Lawyer says, " no further statement ".& there is " a fierce statement.".Lawyer Lied..

original statement Sunday, 11/15/14
link from latest news forum:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014945705

"Over the last several weeks, decade-old, discredited allegations against Mr. Cosby have resurfaced. The fact that they are being repeated does not make them true. Mr. Cosby does not intend to dignify these allegations with any comment. He would like to thank all his fans for the outpouring of support and assure them that, at age 77, he is doing his best work. There will be no further statement from Mr. Cosby or any of his representatives."
- John P. Schmitt, lawyer for Bill Cosby


yesterday:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014949031

Bill Cosby‘s attorney put out a fierce statement today to the press after three additional woman came out publicly saying the comedy icon sexually assaulted them. Martin Singer made it known in the statement that he’s getting a bit peeved with the “media-driven feeding frenzy.”

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Cosby Lawyer says, " no further statement ".& there is " a fierce statement.".Lawyer Lied.. (Original Post) Stuart G Nov 2014 OP
Fuck him. Twice. merrily Nov 2014 #1
Cosby's veracity on this has been self fucked...!!! Stuart G Nov 2014 #2
This time, I meant the lawyer, but you're right. Fuck 'em both. merrily Nov 2014 #3
Is a lawyer following his client's instructions really what's important here? Android3.14 Nov 2014 #4
That's not what a "lie" is. DirkGently Nov 2014 #5
It is another media feeding frenzy, that is what the lawyer is saying. How is he wrong about these Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #6
One can only hope that this trend for chewing up people in the media turns towards political figures Thor_MN Nov 2014 #9
Media maybe "a poor judge of criminal guilt"...... daleanime Nov 2014 #11
Sadly some may agree with you. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #12
What's sad is the fact.... daleanime Nov 2014 #15
Thanks for your understanding. Some people want to attack the attorney for doing his job, as if Dustlawyer Nov 2014 #8
Lawyer is probably having a little trouble believing in his client's innocence. n/t Orsino Nov 2014 #7
Lawyers, good criminal lawyers, do not give a shit if their client is guilty or innocent. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #13
I agree with the statement above. Stuart G Nov 2014 #14
The point is that it is not the job of the criminal defence lawyer to determine who is truthful, Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #16
Time to head old Bill to court and see if these allegations can be proven, we drynberg Nov 2014 #10
 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
4. Is a lawyer following his client's instructions really what's important here?
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 07:40 AM
Nov 2014

I can just see the lawyer explaining. "I'm sorry Mr. Cosby, but I cannot issue another statement. I said a week ago that we would not issue any more statements, and a consistent message is more important than your instructions."

Seems like the rape allegations are the real issue.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
5. That's not what a "lie" is.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 08:27 AM
Nov 2014

When someone makes a prediction or promise that something will or will not happen, and it turns out differently, or even if they themselves change their mind, that is not a "lie."

Lying is saying something you know not to be true, not being wrong about it or predicting the future inaccurately or breaking a promise.

And yes, as noted, the lawyer is not the point of the Cosby story. He is a spokesman for Cosby.

Odd to focus on the lawyer here.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
6. It is another media feeding frenzy, that is what the lawyer is saying. How is he wrong about these
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 08:59 AM
Nov 2014

unproven and already well examined old allegations....and allegstions they are, allegstions they remain no matter the rush to judgment in the court of public opinion and current feed in the trough.

This constant and perpetual rush to judgment because you can is wrong...the media is a poor judge of criminal guilt.

And agreed, how did the lawyer lie by make a promise or prediction that did not turn out? Weird way to define the word.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
9. One can only hope that this trend for chewing up people in the media turns towards political figures
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:38 AM
Nov 2014

Vengeance seems to be a driving motive these days.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
8. Thanks for your understanding. Some people want to attack the attorney for doing his job, as if
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:36 AM
Nov 2014

it is wrong until they need a lawyer to represent them. There is an old saying among lawyers that everyone hates lawyers, except for their own.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
7. Lawyer is probably having a little trouble believing in his client's innocence. n/t
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:20 AM
Nov 2014

Wouldn't be surprising to see an honest lawyer bailing right about now.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
13. Lawyers, good criminal lawyers, do not give a shit if their client is guilty or innocent.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 10:10 AM
Nov 2014

All they care about is the admissible in court evidence and what it may lead to in a court of law, apologies to the court of public opinion.

Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
14. I agree with the statement above.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 01:02 PM
Nov 2014

Good criminal lawyers can't give a shit. If they are effectively defending their client, then he/she has to have dealt with the problem of the client lying long ago.. How can one live with themselves, if he/she is constantly dealing with the lies. They find a way. It is a job. Yes a well paid one for the very good lawyers, but still a job. The lies go with the territory, and it is a very ugly territory as this case demonstrates

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
16. The point is that it is not the job of the criminal defence lawyer to determine who is truthful,
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 02:06 PM
Nov 2014

there is an entire system set up for that.

Hint: it is not CNN or Entertainment Channel.

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
10. Time to head old Bill to court and see if these allegations can be proven, we
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:50 AM
Nov 2014

Owe it to Cosby, all the ladies with claims and the public.

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