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MerryBlooms

(11,767 posts)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 05:20 PM Nov 2014

The Horrific Sand Creek Massacre Will Be Forgotten No More

There were many such atrocities in the American West. But the slaughter at Sand Creek stands out because of the impact it had at the time and the way it has been remembered. Or rather, lost and then rediscovered. Sand Creek was the My Lai of its day, a war crime exposed by soldiers and condemned by the U.S. government. It fueled decades of war on the Great Plains. And yet, over time, the massacre receded from white memory, to the point where even locals were unaware of what had happened in their own backyard.

That’s now changed, with the opening of the Sand Creek Massacre National Historic Site. “We’re the only unit in the National Park Service that has ‘massacre’ in its name,” says the site’s superintendent, Alexa Roberts. Usually, she notes, signs for national historic sites lead to a presidential birthplace or patriotic monument. “So a lot of people are startled by what they find here.”

Visitors are also surprised to learn that the massacre occurred during the Civil War, which most Americans associate with Eastern battles between blue and gray, not cavalry killing Indians on the Western plains. But the two conflicts were closely related, says Ari Kelman, a historian at Penn State University and author of A Misplaced Massacre, a Bancroft Prize-winning book about Sand Creek.

The Civil War, he observes, was rooted in westward expansion and strife over whether new territories would join the nation as free states or slave states. Slavery, however, wasn’t the only obstacle to free white settlement of the West; another was Plains Indians, many of whom staunchly resisted encroachment on their lands.
DEC14_H99_SandCreek-map.jpg When the Park Service and tribal leaders clashed over the exact location of the tragedy, Campbell concluded both were right: the massacre spread out over an area of 12,500 acres. (Jamie Simon )

“We remember the Civil War as a war of liberation that freed four million slaves,” Kelman says. “But it also became a war of conquest to destroy and dispossess Native Americans.” Sand Creek, he adds, “is a bloody and mostly forgotten link” between the Civil War and the Plains Indian Wars that continued for 25 years after Appomattox.

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The Horrific Sand Creek Massacre Will Be Forgotten No More (Original Post) MerryBlooms Nov 2014 OP
K&R.... daleanime Nov 2014 #1
the guy that was the governor of colorado was john evans mopinko Nov 2014 #2
rec MerryBlooms Nov 2014 #8
Educating the ignorant og1 Nov 2014 #13
This is the 150th anniversary of that massacre, I think. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #3
I never realized how ignorant I was of US history until the internet. MerryBlooms Nov 2014 #9
I know of this massacre heaven05 Nov 2014 #4
And now they have to defend a new invasion, of the oil barons and oligarchs hungry for more. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #5
Ferguson could be another Sand Creek PeoViejo Nov 2014 #6
The amassing of troops in Ferguson is very disturbing. MerryBlooms Nov 2014 #10
The oligarchs are the ones that want this civil war between the Black Community and rhett o rick Nov 2014 #20
Another atrocity in America's quest for empire ashling Nov 2014 #7
I am glad to see this done. Tom Rinaldo Nov 2014 #11
"But we beat the Indians fair and square" Dirty Socialist Nov 2014 #12
Read this book to change forever your view of the 'conquest of the West'... FailureToCommunicate Nov 2014 #14
That is a great book. tclambert Nov 2014 #16
We didn't really even want their land. Hardly anybody lives there today. tclambert Nov 2014 #15
K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2014 #17
The Massacre at Sand Creek is burned in my mind forever... Stuart G Nov 2014 #18
From Wiki: BeanMusical Nov 2014 #19
thank you, was going to link to the wiki article. niyad Nov 2014 #23
K&R for more visibility. nt Mnemosyne Nov 2014 #21
k and r and thank you. the date was 29 nov 1864--150 years ago this coming saturday. niyad Nov 2014 #22

mopinko

(70,088 posts)
2. the guy that was the governor of colorado was john evans
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 05:32 PM
Nov 2014

evanston. founded northwestern university. and the city of evanston. but his connection to sand creek was "forgotten" around here till a history student turned up last year.

 

og1

(51 posts)
13. Educating the ignorant
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 07:30 PM
Nov 2014

History should be taught in the church's for these settlers and slavers did their business with the blessing of the church!

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
4. I know of this massacre
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 05:42 PM
Nov 2014

truly a reflection of the american mindset and viciousness that has continued to this day amongst many americans, especially republicans.

 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
6. Ferguson could be another Sand Creek
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 06:03 PM
Nov 2014

All it would take is some crazy racist to set off a Massacre. The Skinheads want their Race War.

MerryBlooms

(11,767 posts)
10. The amassing of troops in Ferguson is very disturbing.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 06:42 PM
Nov 2014

When the verdict is finally released, the people who turn out to peacefully march are very brave and I hope/pray they stay safe.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
20. The oligarchs are the ones that want this civil war between the Black Community and
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 09:35 PM
Nov 2014

the well armed Red Necks. The 99% can't revolt if they are fighting among themselves.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
11. I am glad to see this done.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 06:48 PM
Nov 2014

After I first read about the Sand Creek Massacre in Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee I wrote this song about it. I couldn't think of anything else to do but I couldn't forget those images and that horrific story:

At the closing of the Civil War
while the country bled and the cities burned
frontier soldiers dealt out justice
just like they were shown
When in doubt there's no time for mercy
have to shoot first and stay strong
Don't waste a tear on Indians
they did not belong

It's true the Cheyenne had a treaty
but the miners had to reach that gold
So the blue coats roamed the country
that the Cheyenne owned
Even so there must be no fighting
spoke the elders of the tribe
The only hope for the future
was living side by side

So Black Kettle made a journey
he and Lean Bear met with Abe Lincoln
and signed the papers that would prove to soldiers
they did not want war
When they returned they assured their people
there's no reason to feel fear
We were told in Washington
we can have peace here.

Nothing lasts long
only the Earth and the mountains
Nothing lasts long
only the spirit and the truth

Well some people are plain evil
Colonel Chivington was such a man
and his mission was to kill the Cheyenne
let all else be damned
He and his friends who held high state offices
had come up with a plan
To rid the west of Indians
to let whites have the land.

With the coming of the Spring time
there were attacks on peaceful Indian bands
and some Cheyenne chose to take the war path
to protect their land
But Black Kettle tried to stop the fighting
He was still a peaceful man
He went to see the governor
to make him understand.

It was a time of killing
there was no promise made except for one
Peaceful Indians had to heed all orders
from the Army forts
Otherwise they would end up hunted
by Colonel Chivington
who aimed to kill all hostiles
or put them on the run

Nothing lasts long
only the Earth and the mountains
Nothing lasts long
only the spirit and the truth

When the soldiers neared his people
Black Kettle tried to keep them calm
for he had talked to the red eyed Major
at Fort Lyon
who had said you will be protected
if you do what you are told.
Go make your camp at Sand Creek
there you will not be harmed

So they gathered in a circle
with a white flag thrown against the sky
while the women clutched the children
who'd begun to cry
White Antelope went to meet the soldiers
just an old chief known to all
He stood for peace at Sand Creek
Until they gunned him down

Nothing lasts long
only the Earth and the mountains
Nothing lasts long
only the spirit and the truth

They were gathered in a circle
with a white flag thrown against the sky
while the women clutched the children
who'd begun to cry
Bullets rained on defenseless people
Swords and bayonets killed more
They tried to flee from Sand Creek
Their bodies lined the gouge.

Nothing lasts long
only the Earth and the mountains
Nothing lasts long
only the spirit and the truth



FailureToCommunicate

(14,013 posts)
14. Read this book to change forever your view of the 'conquest of the West'...
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 07:38 PM
Nov 2014


The section on Sand Creek is almost unbearable.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
15. We didn't really even want their land. Hardly anybody lives there today.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 07:40 PM
Nov 2014

So why did we kill them? It was genocide for kicks, I guess.

Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
18. The Massacre at Sand Creek is burned in my mind forever...
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 08:21 PM
Nov 2014

I was teaching a class on Current American History..I had the students read, "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" by Dee Brown..I had not read the book myself, but knew it was a terrific history of how the Native Americans were treated. I read way ahead of the students, engulfed in the story of how one tribe after another, (there are over 400 tribes Native Americans.) was treated worse than the next. The book gradually increases the level torture and death. Sand Creek is in the middle to two thirds thru the book. I read the chapter, then reread the chapter. And I couldn't read any more. I was horrified and so sad ..that book was done, and I couldn't even get to the end.

I composed 30 or 40 questions for the students to answer and left it. Our history is full of events of hatred and killing like Sand Creek. I regret that I never finished this book, but I do not regret that I read as much as I did. It is what it is. If you want to know about many of those instances of total betrayal, read Dee Brown, "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee"...if you can......

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
19. From Wiki:
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 08:29 PM
Nov 2014

I saw the bodies of those lying there cut all to pieces, worse mutilated than any I ever saw before; the women cut all to pieces ... With knives; scalped; their brains knocked out; children two or three months old; all ages lying there, from sucking infants up to warriors ... By whom were they mutilated? By the United States troops ...
- John S. Smith, Congressional Testimony of Mr. John S. Smith, 1865

Fingers and ears were cut off the bodies for the jewelry they carried. The body of White Antelope, lying solitarily in the creek bed, was a prime target. Besides scalping him the soldiers cut off his nose, ears, and testicles-the last for a tobacco pouch ...
- Stan Hoig

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand_Creek_massacre

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