What we can expect from Ferguson- nonviolent protest and agents provocateurs creating violence.

[mahina]

I send a prayer that there are people in the community trained in nonviolent resistance and community organizing.

We all know, many firsthand, from too many incidents both here and abroad that other interests would like to see nonviolent protestors portrayed in the worst light, and will stoop to any low to accomplish that result.

In the weeks ahead, be skeptical and mindful that there may be people undermining the peace, who hide in plain sight, but whose goal is not liberation, but to create an excuse for crackdown.

How do we know what we are told in the news is true? If the wingers asked that question themselves, things would be much different today. We should ask that question too.

Peace to the protestors, peace to the families, peace to the counterprotestors, but hell readies a room for agents provocateurs.

[freshwest]

1. Agent provocateurs:

He sitteth in ambush with the rich in private places, that he may kill the innocent.

He sits in the lurking places of the villages: in the secret places does he murder the innocent: his eyes are privately set against the poor.

~ Proverbs

Some of them came from out of town this summer to create mayhem, but community leaders recognized them and warned the protestors, who ran them off. The way some people are drooling at the thought of these people being beat down or killed is sickening.

[noiretextatique]

2. someone here accused me of being paranoid

when i said there would be agent provocateurs stirring the pot in Ferguson.

[woo me with science]

3. Just be careful not to implicate any corporate politicians.

As long as you treat it as a local matter or merely a problem of racism and don't try to hold corporate politicians - particularly corporate Democrats - accountable for their very significant role in police militarization and policies that create oppressive communities like Ferguson, you will be okay.

Once you cross that line and start making those connections, you will lose the support of the Third Way message control brigade here.

But addressing police militarization and the systemic physical and financial oppression of poor and minority communities *requires* confronting the corporate politicians whose policies are growing this cancer:

Stopping police militarization: Once again, the solution requires confronting corporate politicians.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=edit&forum=1002&thread=5416709

Militarization of our police departments is a *bipartisan* effort of corporatists in both parties, right along with mass surveillance, the assaults on journalism, and the persecution of whistleblowers. The programs and legislation that are turning our police departments into paramilitary forces come through Homeland Security and the Pentagon, and are being used to suppress and intimidate dissent, exploit communities, and fill lucrative private prisons with slave labor as the nation is corporatized and Americans are made into a nation of low-paid wage slaves.

Both parties are complicit in this outrage. See the links below. Real change requires pushback against corporate politicians who are enabling this militarization, and that includes both corporate Democrats and Republicans.

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The entire Democratic leadership opposed Grayson amendment to stop arming cops with DOD weapons
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025390424

WOW... Went Looking For Connections Between Ferguson And ALEC... Found This Piece Of The Puzzle...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025413841

The exploitation of Ferguson I: In 2013 the town issued over 24,000 arrest warrants..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025404667

The exploitation of Ferguson II: The Seamy Underbelly Of Ferguson Starts To Appear
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025416747

The exploitation of Ferguson III: Ferguson Feeds Off the Poor: Three Warrants a Year Per Household
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025428157

Police Militarization (including the Obama administration's role)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/06/aclu-police-militarization-swat_n_2813334.html

It's almost certain that if the police agencies cooperate, the ACLU will find that the militarization trend has accelerated since Kraska's studies more than a decade ago. All of the policies, incentives and funding mechanisms that were driving the trend then are still in effect now. And most of them have grown in size and scope.

The George W. Bush administration actually began scaling down the Byrne and COPS programs in the early 2000s, part of a general strategy of leaving law enforcement to states and localities. But the Obama administration has since resurrected both programs. The Byrne program got a $2 billion surge in funding as part of the 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, by far the largest budget in the program's 25-year history. Obama also gave the COPS program $1.55 billion that same year, a 250 percent increase over its 2008 budget, and again the largest budget in the program's history. Vice President Joe Biden had championed both programs during his time in the Senate.

The Pentagon's 1033 program has also exploded under Obama. In the program's monthly newsletter (Motto: "From Warfighter to Crimefighter&quot , its director announced in October 2011 that his office had given away a record $500 million in military gear in fiscal year 2011, which he noted, "passes the previous mark by several hundred million dollars." He added, "I believe we can exceed that in FY 12.”

Then there are the Department of Homeland Security's anti-terrorism grants. The Center for Investigative Reporting found in a 2011 investigation that since 2001, DHS has given out more than $34 billion in grants to police departments across the country, many of which have been used to purchase military-grade guns, tanks, armor, and armored personnel carriers. The grants have gone to such unlikely terrorism targets as Fargo, N.D.; Canyon County, Idaho; and Tuscaloosa, Ala.

The final ACLU report on militarization of police in America
https://www.aclu.org/criminal-law-reform/war-comes-home-excessive-militarization-american-police-report

"Operation Urban Shield"...Training our Police, Fire, First Responders..in Military Tactics
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025412909

WOW... Went Looking For Connections Between Ferguson And ALEC... Found This Piece Of The Puzzle...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025413841

The exploitation of Ferguson I: In 2013 the town issued over 24,000 arrest warrants..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025404667

The exploitation of Ferguson II: The Seamy Underbelly Of Ferguson Starts To Appear
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025416747

The exploitation of Ferguson III: Ferguson Feeds Off the Poor: Three Warrants a Year Per Household
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025428157

Poor minorities are worthless to corporations on the street. In prison they can bring in $40,000/yr
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023368969

Poor Land in Jail as Companies Add Huge Fees for Probation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014158005

The Caging of America - Why do we lock up so many people
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002226110

The Obama administration is aggressively growing private prisons
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022568681

Obama's 2013 budget: One area of marked growth, the prison industrial complex
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/1002392306

Obama selects the owner of a private prison consulting firm as the new Director of the United States Marshals Service (USMS)
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2010/12/mars-d03.html

Private prison corporations move up on list on federal contractors, receiving BILLIONS
http://www.nationofchange.org/president-obama-s-incarcernation-1335274655

Federal Private Prison Populations Grew by 784% in 10 Year Span
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4362184

Prison Labor Booms As Unemployment Remains High; Companies Reap Benefits
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/10/prison-labor_n_2272036.html

Private Prison Corporation's Letters to Shareholders Reveal Industry's Tactics: Profiting from Human Incarceration
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022665091

Financial growth of private prison industry...Profiting from caging humans.

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/BshteP8i282pcaeH8pdUsA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTUyMA--/

We heard about private prisons...but do you know of the private probation industry?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025380204

NYT: Probation Fees Rise, Firms Profit and the Poor Go to Jail
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002893040

No Safe Place: How Cities Are Making It Illegal to be Homeless
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101699724

Thrown in jail for being poor: the booming for-profit probation industry
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024603515 Police Militarization (including the Obama administration's role)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/06/aclu-police-militarization-swat_n_2813334.html

The final ACLU report on militarization of police in America
https://www.aclu.org/criminal-law-reform/war-comes-home-excessive-militarization-american-police-report

"Operation Urban Shield"...Training our Police, Fire, First Responders..in Military Tactics
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025412909

[freshwest]

4. Oh, no, there was a video posted here with the civic leader - you know the one who got arrested?

Some white anarchists came from Chicago and started throwing things. They were doing their usual 'cool' thing with their masks on.

Just came into town and started trouble, they wanted to get things stirred up good. For what, for a body count?

And then they leave while heads are getting beat on and elderly people have heart attacks... I think one died from the stress.

Also the open carry people, the Infowars and Adam Kokesh guys came to town to get the citizens to take up arms. You know damn well they'd take off and watch the blood flow from afar.

People getting all eager for the revolution have turned out to not be liberals, progressives, or those for civil rights. They don't protect lives, they burn them up like matches.

The oppressed citizenry of Fergusoh deserve better than to be made the subject of a carnival of carnage. As if they hadn't gone through enough.

I was browing the SPLC website for the locations of the KKK in the area and other groups like Constitutional Sheriffs celebrated on a DU thread, like that one who retired in MO who was on youtube talking about race war and arresting Obama, etc.

One of our posters said all of the local television networks in the region are hyping the fear of riots, etc. 24/7. They've got people who wouldn't think about Ferguson in a state of panic.

That's a version of 'manufactured consent' like the Tea Party was hyped by media to be something bigger than they were. The news is now a commericial for Koch propaganda, and out of chaos they will take over the government. That's what all these provocative actions are about.

Here is a something worth reading:

‘Anarcho-Capitalists’ Seen as Cousins of the ‘Patriot’ Movement

Leah Nelson - December 12, 2012

Check the wackery:

...Stansberry is not the only ultra-libertarian to promote such ideas. One of his most prominent fellow travelers is Doug Casey, an antigovernment “investment guru” who on Nov. 29 told subscribers to his newsletter that being a taxpayer in America today is analogous to “being a Jew in Germany in the mid-1930’s...”

But scratch that surface and it’s clear that this self-described “anarcho-capitalist,” who in 2009 outlined a plan to privatize a small country and take it public on the New York Stock Exchange, is courting the same audience of government-fearing radicals. Though he puts a fresh face on tired conspiracies and a new spin on old animosities, Casey’s message is the same: The government is your enemy, and if you don’t prepare, it will destroy you.

If you stripped the Patriot movement of its pseudo-legal rhetoric, conspiracist malarkey and allusions to supposed Christian virtue, you’d end up with an ideology much like the one espoused by Stansberry, Casey and their compatriots. Often described as “anarcho-capitalists” or “voluntaryists,” their belief in essence is that government — any government — is by its very nature tyrannical and unnatural. They propose instead an essentially stateless society in which all relationships, economic and otherwise, are voluntary and untaxed. Services like roads and mail delivery would be built and maintained by private entities that would charge market-based fees for those who desired to use them. Government in any recognizable form simply would not exist...

Translation: Confederate partisans — people whose “ethical values and economic interests” included buying, selling, beating, raping and killing other human beings whose skin color happened to be different from their own — were unjustly stopped by overweening federal power that was built into the Constitution from Day One as part of a long-acting stealth coup to steal power from the states...

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/12/12/anarcho-capitalists-seen-as-cousins-of-the-patriot-movement/

Comments are very interesting, too,

Anyway, I have to turn in and I hope you and yours can enjoy the holiday. I don't think anyone in Ferguson is going to enjoy theirs in peace - and that's all they wanted in the first place. to be allowed to live their lives in peace.

[woo me with science]

5. kick I hope the protesters have cameras ready. Wasn't there an article yesterday

about a court decision upholding the right to film the police as they work?

[mahina]

6. It's settled law, but 5-0 will act as if it isn't.

[Oktober]

7. No true Scotsman... I mean protester...

[KingCharlemagne]

8. There's been massive training in non-violent civil disobedience going on over

the past 100-some days.

Here's a good clearing house for information from Ferguson. (Click on the link mid-way down to view current and past newsletters which round up local, state and national developments.)

http://thisisthemovement.launchrock.com/

[mahina]

10. I'm so happy to hear that. I'd hoped so.

Thank you for the link!

[TorchTheWitch]

9. no, most will not be provocateurs but basic violent shitbags

not protesting anything but using the opportunity to make mayhem without the likelihood of getting caught for no other reason that they think it's fun. Just as it was the last time. Though many were caught I don't think a one of them was from Ferguson and most were from entirely different states. They didn't come to protest, they came for the opportunity to make mayhem because there are always people that just like to make mayhem though they don't normally have the opportunity where the likelihood of getting caught is too high for such cowards.

Let's not forget that the burning, looting, etc. stopped when Johnson convinced the peaceful protesters to only protest during daylight hours as they were unwittingly providing cover for the shitbags at night in the dark. The first night there were no protesters out there was no mayhem, and the shitbags left town while during daylight hours there were still peaceful protests going on, so it worked to get rid of the shitbags making mayhem.