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damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:46 AM Nov 2014

Woman who lost her left eye in 'unjustified' police shooting after drunken 40-mile car chase sues

A woman who lost her left eye two years ago when a police officer fired a single shot at her following a drunken 40-mile car chase is suing the cop and police force involved.

Kristine Biggs Johnson was driving drunk through Morgan County, Utah, on November 24, 2012 when the shooting occurred.

At a press conference on Thursday to announced her legal action, Johnson said she couldn’t recall much from the evening in question - which doctors have put down to either head trauma or excessive alcohol intake.

In her lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court, Johnson’s lawyer argues that Sergeant Daniel Peay ‘utilized unreasonable, improper, unnecessary and excessive deadly force’."

On the night of the shooting, Johnson was traveling from Evanston, Wyoming, to California with her dog and all her possessions – including a bottle of vodka.

‘I hadn’t opened it and I had no plans to,’ she told The Salt Lake Tribune on Thursday, but toxicology tests have since proved that Johnson was legally drunk that night.

When Morgan County sheriffs encountered Johnson she refused to pull over after a deputy tried to stop her for having a broken headlight.

A 40-mile chase into Davis County then ensued after Johnson drove off.

The officer called for backup and at some point during the chase, officers placed spike strips on the road, which destroyed three of Johnson’s tires.

The chase eventually ended in a cul-de-sac and dash-cam footage shows Johnson surrounded by three cop cars."

Video at link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2834189/I-m-sorry-actions-night-Woman-lost-left-eye-unjustified-shooting-following-drunken-40-mile-car-chase-sues-police-officer-involved-excessive-force.html

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Woman who lost her left eye in 'unjustified' police shooting after drunken 40-mile car chase sues (Original Post) damnedifIknow Nov 2014 OP
yeah when you keep trying to drive your vehicle into cops after a 40 mile chase snooper2 Nov 2014 #1
She was blocked in damnedifIknow Nov 2014 #3
She hit the truck first, backed up, then hit the car to the left of the one with the dash cam snooper2 Nov 2014 #4
Facts do matter damnedifIknow Nov 2014 #5
She hits the first cop car at 4 seconds, hits it again at 15 seconds, hits car to right at 28 second snooper2 Nov 2014 #6
She flat out stopped her "weapon" damnedifIknow Nov 2014 #8
Poor dog. nt msanthrope Nov 2014 #9
When I first saw this story I was inclined to take her side, Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #2
I don't think she posed significant enough threat to the officers or to the public on three rims... NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #10
Oh I am sure....NOT! yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #12
In that moment she did not pose a deadly threat. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #13
No! Sorry but her decision making was bad that day yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #14
She still controlled her vehicle which is a deadly weapon. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #18
Shot her on the head. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #19
I hope she understands the excessive deadly force she was using, perhaps her Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #7
This case I would love to be on the jury yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #11
True she used bad judgement damnedifIknow Nov 2014 #15
Hard To Use Her As A Poster Child ProfessorGAC Nov 2014 #16
We will just have to agree to disagree on this one yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #17
I'm not condoning what she did damnedifIknow Nov 2014 #20
 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
1. yeah when you keep trying to drive your vehicle into cops after a 40 mile chase
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:51 AM
Nov 2014

PROBABLY not a good idea-

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
3. She was blocked in
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:55 AM
Nov 2014

and the video shows she stopped before hitting the police car in front of her and that's when she was shot. This woman wasn't going anywhere with three flat tires and a convoy of cops in front of her.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
4. She hit the truck first, backed up, then hit the car to the left of the one with the dash cam
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:58 AM
Nov 2014

then was shot-

facts matter

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
6. She hits the first cop car at 4 seconds, hits it again at 15 seconds, hits car to right at 28 second
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:06 AM
Nov 2014

you do see the front of the truck lift slightly up and impact noise at 28 seconds correct?

If she was really "stopping" with any forward momentum you should see the nose of her weapon going down not up. I guess this is why Grand Juries take so long



Facts Matter-

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
2. When I first saw this story I was inclined to take her side,
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:55 AM
Nov 2014

but reading the details, she still tried to drive away even after they had blown out her tires? Obviously she was still a danger to the cops and to the public. They couldn't get close enough to taze her and had done everything they could to stop her. I think I have to side with the cops on this one.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
10. I don't think she posed significant enough threat to the officers or to the public on three rims...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:35 AM
Nov 2014

.
...for them to use deadly force. They had her, she wasn't going anywhere.

So, it looks a lot more like shooting her for noncompliance with police instruction.

That said, she needs to bear most of the blame for her injuries, as she created the entire set of circumstances that led up to her shooting.

I'm torn as to what damages, if any, I would award her.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
13. In that moment she did not pose a deadly threat.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:55 AM
Nov 2014

Boxed in by the vehicles, she didn't need to be shot IN THE FUCKING HEAD!

That was excessive.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
14. No! Sorry but her decision making was bad that day
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 12:02 PM
Nov 2014

And if she hadn't driven 40 miles then maybe I would side with her. For example, if she left the location drunk and simple got in the car and they shot her, I would side with her. But she didn't, she has attempted murder on thousands that day. I would charge her for that if I was the DA.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
18. She still controlled her vehicle which is a deadly weapon.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 12:55 PM
Nov 2014

She had ample opportunity to surrender without being injured. All she had to do was get out of the car with her hands up.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
19. Shot her on the head.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:06 PM
Nov 2014

The proper response was to completely box her in with the vehicles that were already on site.

Less lethal than dancing around her vehicle with guns drawn.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
7. I hope she understands the excessive deadly force she was using, perhaps her
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:08 AM
Nov 2014

Good judgement was too impaired for her to realize she endangered the lives of everyone who was in her path, using her vehicle as the weapon and too impaired to realize her tires was flat. I am sorry for the loss of her eye but this is a good reason not to drive drunk.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
11. This case I would love to be on the jury
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:48 AM
Nov 2014

She would lose. Seriously at which mile did she think she had the right to not stop? At which drink did she feel she was ok to get into a 4 ton weapon? When you first see the police lights, you pull over. Not a difficult decision.

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
15. True she used bad judgement
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 12:03 PM
Nov 2014

For this she almost gets her head blown off? Obviously she was in a distressed state of mind at the time and needed to be stopped but not in that way in my opinion. There were enough cops there to handle this without resorting to deadly force.

ProfessorGAC

(64,877 posts)
16. Hard To Use Her As A Poster Child
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 12:07 PM
Nov 2014

She engaged in the use of deadly force too. No, she shouldn't have had her head blown off (which isn't really what occurred), and it's easy to pile on the cops right now, given the horrible behavior we've seen in recent times.

But, this one is a lot harder to hold up as a clear instance of excessive force by police.

Drunk; 40 mile car chase; punctured tires; boxed in; and she's still hitting vehicles trying to get out somehow.

Not a pretty view from either window, here.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
17. We will just have to agree to disagree on this one
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 12:08 PM
Nov 2014

I will never be on her side for this or condone a thing she has done. I can be sympathetic to a degree but I am not a chump either. Had she stopped when the initial lights came on, she would probably gotten probation, alcohol counseling and license lost for a period of time. She decided she had the right to drive drunk and didn't care about anyone else. Hopefully losing her eye will ensure she never gets into a car again drunk. Some lessons are hard.

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
20. I'm not condoning what she did
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:20 PM
Nov 2014

Nor the way it was handled by the police but did she deserve to be shot in the head over it? No way.

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