Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:41 PM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
It is time for Eric Holder to do his job.
I am told that while Eric Holder may have not been interested in prosecuting bankers, his legacy will be in his fierce fight for civil rights.
Ok. A young black man in Ferguson was deprived of his civil rights by the taking of his life, if not directly because he was black, then pretty clearly stemming from his being black. Americans need to know that this is not tolerated in America, that we are a nation of laws. We need to know that injustice brings justice. Do your job, Mr. Holder. The world is watching.
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MannyGoldstein | Nov 2014 | OP |
Historic NY | Nov 2014 | #1 | |
SoCalMusicLover | Nov 2014 | #2 | |
kelliekat44 | Nov 2014 | #3 | |
BeyondGeography | Nov 2014 | #4 | |
MannyGoldstein | Nov 2014 | #6 | |
Scuba | Nov 2014 | #9 | |
BeyondGeography | Nov 2014 | #10 | |
MannyGoldstein | Nov 2014 | #17 | |
BeyondGeography | Nov 2014 | #19 | |
sheshe2 | Nov 2014 | #30 | |
BeyondGeography | Nov 2014 | #33 | |
sheshe2 | Nov 2014 | #36 | |
JI7 | Nov 2014 | #53 | |
sheshe2 | Nov 2014 | #54 | |
madville | Nov 2014 | #22 | |
sheshe2 | Nov 2014 | #43 | |
Cali_Democrat | Nov 2014 | #8 | |
BeyondGeography | Nov 2014 | #12 | |
SidDithers | Nov 2014 | #48 | |
msanthrope | Nov 2014 | #15 | |
treestar | Nov 2014 | #73 | |
MannyGoldstein | Nov 2014 | #21 | |
Cali_Democrat | Nov 2014 | #24 | |
MannyGoldstein | Nov 2014 | #26 | |
Cali_Democrat | Nov 2014 | #29 | |
MannyGoldstein | Nov 2014 | #34 | |
Cali_Democrat | Nov 2014 | #35 | |
MannyGoldstein | Nov 2014 | #37 | |
Cali_Democrat | Nov 2014 | #38 | |
MannyGoldstein | Nov 2014 | #39 | |
Cali_Democrat | Nov 2014 | #44 | |
MannyGoldstein | Nov 2014 | #47 | |
Cali_Democrat | Nov 2014 | #50 | |
ChisolmTrailDem | Nov 2014 | #72 | |
marble falls | Nov 2014 | #82 | |
sheshe2 | Nov 2014 | #27 | |
Bobbie Jo | Nov 2014 | #49 | |
bettyellen | Nov 2014 | #69 | |
Andy823 | Nov 2014 | #70 | |
treestar | Nov 2014 | #74 | |
SidDithers | Nov 2014 | #40 | |
villager | Nov 2014 | #5 | |
JI7 | Nov 2014 | #7 | |
DisgustipatedinCA | Nov 2014 | #41 | |
Stinky The Clown | Nov 2014 | #11 | |
Name removed | Nov 2014 | #13 | |
JohLast | Nov 2014 | #16 | |
Name removed | Nov 2014 | #18 | |
JohLast | Nov 2014 | #20 | |
Marrah_G | Nov 2014 | #14 | |
sheshe2 | Nov 2014 | #23 | |
MannyGoldstein | Nov 2014 | #28 | |
sheshe2 | Nov 2014 | #31 | |
Spazito | Nov 2014 | #32 | |
sheshe2 | Nov 2014 | #42 | |
Spazito | Nov 2014 | #45 | |
Number23 | Nov 2014 | #55 | |
sheshe2 | Nov 2014 | #56 | |
Spazito | Nov 2014 | #58 | |
madville | Nov 2014 | #25 | |
Township75 | Nov 2014 | #46 | |
GGJohn | Nov 2014 | #62 | |
Township75 | Nov 2014 | #66 | |
GGJohn | Nov 2014 | #67 | |
badtoworse | Nov 2014 | #51 | |
U4ikLefty | Nov 2014 | #57 | |
KingCharlemagne | Nov 2014 | #64 | |
U4ikLefty | Nov 2014 | #78 | |
sheshe2 | Nov 2014 | #52 | |
SidDithers | Nov 2014 | #59 | |
msanthrope | Nov 2014 | #68 | |
MannyGoldstein | Nov 2014 | #76 | |
msanthrope | Nov 2014 | #77 | |
bahrbearian | Nov 2014 | #60 | |
Bobbie Jo | Nov 2014 | #61 | |
KittyWampus | Nov 2014 | #63 | |
99Forever | Nov 2014 | #65 | |
MFrohike | Nov 2014 | #71 | |
ProfessorGAC | Nov 2014 | #75 | |
ucrdem | Nov 2014 | #79 | |
woo me with science | Nov 2014 | #80 | |
marble falls | Nov 2014 | #81 |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:42 PM
Historic NY (36,486 posts)
1. Ah, he was let go...
waiting for the nickie new guy.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:42 PM
SoCalMusicLover (3,194 posts)
2. He's Long Gone
His resignation is in, his days are numbered. Won't be his problem.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:43 PM
kelliekat44 (7,759 posts)
3. How soon can a suit be filed? Wilson should find no peace anywhere. Two letters come to mind. OJ
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:44 PM
BeyondGeography (38,514 posts)
4. Eric Holder has been doing his job for about six years
You're already on the record as not having noticed.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #4)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:45 PM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
6. What were his greatest triumphs, in your opinion?
Just the top 3 or 4 should do.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #6)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:48 PM
Scuba (53,475 posts)
9. He proclaimed a bunch of rich guys "too big to jail".
Well, that's one at least.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #6)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:49 PM
BeyondGeography (38,514 posts)
10. Here
Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #10)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:54 PM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
17. Tons of typical stuff.
Hackers put in jail and what not. But anything really big?
I suppose that fining the banks might be big, but we don't know because DOJ refuses to make the details public - hopefully Elizabeth Warren's bill to force DOJ to disclose true settlement amounts will become law, and will show that these fines have been substantial. |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #17)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:57 PM
BeyondGeography (38,514 posts)
19. His voting rights record is not typical
http://m.thenation.com/blog/181761-eric-holders-voting-rights-legacy
We've had this conversation before. You think he's even more useless than the President. Tiresome. |
Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #19)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:06 PM
sheshe2 (77,636 posts)
30. Yup, it's trash the black man day~
they will never be good enough, BG. Never!
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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #30)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:08 PM
BeyondGeography (38,514 posts)
33. Voting rights...I think that's how his savior Liz would get elected if she ever ran
Or any other Democrat. Thanks, Mr. Holder.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #33)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:11 PM
sheshe2 (77,636 posts)
36. She is my Senator...
and he only uses her to bash the President. He will drop her in a NY minute soon, very soon.
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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #36)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:13 PM
JI7 (87,624 posts)
53. yup, i said this before
none of it is about actually supporting Warren . just using her to attack others.
just as this thread isn't about supporting or giving any shit about michael brown but using him to attack a black man . |
Response to JI7 (Reply #53)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:18 PM
sheshe2 (77,636 posts)
54. Yes it is JI7.
He never even mentions Michaels name, only Holders. Damn I am crying for Michael and the lack of respect that the OP has shown for his death. Tears for America, some of us have lost our souls forever.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #6)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:59 PM
madville (7,020 posts)
22. He has been quite successful at
Keeping Don Siegelman in federal prison the last 5 or 6 years.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #6)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:25 PM
sheshe2 (77,636 posts)
43. I thought this Op was about Michael.
Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #4)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:47 PM
Cali_Democrat (30,439 posts)
8. Actually the OP is on record wanting the election of Obama overturned in favor of McCain
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3995915
And when this grand jury decision was announced, he immediately used the opportunity to attack holder. Obvious. |
Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #8)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:50 PM
BeyondGeography (38,514 posts)
12. He was quiet for a whole day after the EO on immigration
I felt for him.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #12)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:27 PM
SidDithers (44,228 posts)
48. Yup. He and his cohort were kinda quiet after that, eh?...nt
Sid
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #8)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:52 PM
msanthrope (37,549 posts)
15. You Better Believe It! nt
Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #8)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:58 PM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
21. Here's one huge difference between you and me, Cali_Democrat,
intellectual honesty.
Every few thousand posts, I write something that I believe at the moment but don't usually believe. When I do, unless I think better of it within a few minutes, I leave it up rather than self-deleting, because it is what it is. In the case of the one post - out of tens of thousands of mine - that you reference repeatedly, it's pretty clear what's going on in my head. You, by contrast, when found to be posting things that were utterly contradictory, ran way back in time and self-deleted inconvenient posts en masse - until it turned out that while your posts were deleted on DU, they lived forever in the Internet Archive: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5293474 http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023688801 And, indeed, it's pretty clear that you make stuff up out of whole cloth just to be belligerent: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4624205 |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #21)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:00 PM
Cali_Democrat (30,439 posts)
24. HAHAHA...So a deleted post is the same as wanting the election of a Democratic President overturned?
In favor of a Republican?
BTW, didn't you just copy and paste from this post? http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5840967 LOL.... I don't think you could be any more obvious.... |
Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #24)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:03 PM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
26. We don't know. Because you've deleted huge numbers of posts
once you realized that they served to illuminate your true nature.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #26)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:06 PM
Cali_Democrat (30,439 posts)
29. Your true nature was illuminated when you said you wanted Obama's election overturned
in favor of McCain.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #29)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:08 PM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
34. And what reason did I give for that?
You can find it because, you know, unlike you I don't go back and delete my posts wholesale whenever I change position simply to attack people. In part, because unlike you, as demonstrated by clear evidence, I don't change position just to attack people.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #34)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:11 PM
Cali_Democrat (30,439 posts)
35. Out of all the elections to overturn, you wanted Obama's election overturned
in favor of McCain.
I don't think anybody even needs to read your reasoning. It's a joke and it illuminated your true nature. BTW, didn't you vote for Reagan? |
Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #35)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:12 PM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
37. It's interesting that you refuse to give the context.
Good thing that you can only delete your posts, and not the parts of other people's that are inconvenient to your narrative du jour.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #37)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:17 PM
Cali_Democrat (30,439 posts)
38. You wanted the election of Obama overturned in favor of a Republican.
If we had your way, President McCain would be in charge.
Your post speaks for itself. Just like this post where you tried to use a right wing author/website to attack Hillary: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025333469 You got it from Murdoch's right wing New York Post of all places. Obvious. |
Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #38)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:18 PM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
39. That post speaks for itself.
As do yours.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #39)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:25 PM
Cali_Democrat (30,439 posts)
44. Hmmm....wanting to overturn the election of a Democratic President?
Linking to right wing authors/websites in an attempt to smear prominent Democratic politicians?
Could you be any more obvious? |
Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #44)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:27 PM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
47. Yes, I could.
I could talk out of both sides of my mouth, delete the evidence when caught, and take othe poster's posts out of context.
Like you. Have a good night! ![]() |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #47)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:35 PM
Cali_Democrat (30,439 posts)
50. Again....you think a deleted post is the same as wanting the election of a Dem president overturned
in favor of a Republican.
Also, not only did you vote for Reagan, but you link to right wing authors/websites and try to attack prominent Dem politicians. Obvious. Nighty night... ![]() |
Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #50)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 03:22 PM
ChisolmTrailDem (9,463 posts)
72. Did you do what Manny says you did? If so, why?
Understand that I'm not inferring any judgement on you. I am simply curious as to whether or not you did do what Manny says you did because, so far, you seem to be attempting to deflect his accusation.
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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #72)
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:47 AM
marble falls (47,684 posts)
82. I agree. Manny made a direct response to Cali, I want to hear a direct response to Manny's .....
fair question.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #8)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:04 PM
sheshe2 (77,636 posts)
27. And so sadly his Op
Has nothing to do with Michael Brown, he just wants to bash Eric Holder, another black man.
I am so tired of the hate, I weep for this country. |
Response to sheshe2 (Reply #27)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:29 PM
Bobbie Jo (14,341 posts)
49. Obviously.
Totally opportunistic and phony beyond belief.
So tired of the disingenuous theatrics, especially with the timing of this "effort." Unbelievable. |
Response to sheshe2 (Reply #27)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:40 AM
Andy823 (11,475 posts)
70. Exactly
Well said she.
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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #27)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 03:28 PM
treestar (80,796 posts)
74. Exactly, no one in this administration can do anything right
No Democrat other than Elizabeth Warren can do right, and that's only because she hasn't had to be tested.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #8)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:19 PM
SidDithers (44,228 posts)
40. Yup. Completely obvious...nt
Sid
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:44 PM
villager (26,001 posts)
5. why would he suddenly start doing it now?
He's secured his corporate sinecure.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:47 PM
JI7 (87,624 posts)
7. yeah, the black guy needs to fix the race problem in this country
Response to JI7 (Reply #7)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:19 PM
DisgustipatedinCA (12,530 posts)
41. To the extent he can, he sure as fuck does need to
I'm just dying to hear why you think Holder shouldn't be all over this corrupt prosecutor. I get that you're trying to say that racism is not the fault of black people. And while that's true, it's a ridiculous line to pull out in this context. Eric Holder needs to do what he can to stop this sort of shit from ever happening again. He's not out the door yet, and something needs to be done.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:49 PM
Stinky The Clown (65,781 posts)
11. Yeah. Like THAT would ever happen.
In many ways this administration has been very interested in NOT engaging in civil rights justice. Why change now?
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
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Response to Name removed (Reply #13)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:54 PM
JohLast (81 posts)
16. The fbi was involved in the investgation. Don't expect a different outcome.
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Response to Name removed (Reply #18)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:58 PM
JohLast (81 posts)
20. Yes they were.
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:51 PM
Marrah_G (28,581 posts)
14. feds will do nothing
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:59 PM
sheshe2 (77,636 posts)
23. Good job Manny...
trash the black man while claiming justice for a young black man that was murdered. True colors Manny, true colors indeed, you are only blaming the black man. Let's try putting the blame on the racist white men that condone this. We can start with the racist PD in Ferguson that use "crimes" against the blacks in Ferguson as a money machine. You have read about that correct?
Let's put blame where it is due, with white racists and not putting your faux anger in Ferguson. All this and your only thought is about Holder and Wall street. You should be ashamed of yourself. |
Response to sheshe2 (Reply #23)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:04 PM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
28. I don't care if Holder is black, white, green, or Vulcan
I want him to do his damned job -- and so should you.
I will not be ashamed for wanting justice. |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #28)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:07 PM
sheshe2 (77,636 posts)
31. Bull!
You posted this for Michael? You fell short.
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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #23)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:08 PM
Spazito (46,789 posts)
32. I knew two things would happen tonight...
the verdict being returned would contain no charges and the OP poster would promptly use the verdict to make an OP such as this.
He should be ashamed but won't be. |
Response to Spazito (Reply #32)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:23 PM
sheshe2 (77,636 posts)
42. Yes Spazito...
I knew that as well, a little surprised they didn't wait a little longer, yet it was expected. I am having a hard time dealing with more bad news in my life, so much happening. Yet when Michaels murder becomes a tool to bash that black man AG Holder, yes I weep for this country. Shame on him.
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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #42)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:25 PM
Spazito (46,789 posts)
45. There are those who act with dignity and honor...
the Brown family and then there are those who make OPs like this. Take heart, the Brown family are the ones who are respected.
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Response to Spazito (Reply #32)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:30 AM
Number23 (24,544 posts)
55. We are once again on the same wavelength, Spaz because I knew the same thing
the verdict being returned would contain no charges and the OP poster would promptly use the verdict to make an OP such as this.
There are two posters that I knew would be tearing up GD after this verdict -- one trying to minimize and flat out ignore the racism that this country is literally steeped in and another that would use this verdict as some way to slam the president and/or Eric Holder. LO AND BEHOLD both are doing exactly what I already knew they'd do. And I'm so goddamned sick of both of them I could scream. |
Response to Number23 (Reply #55)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:03 AM
sheshe2 (77,636 posts)
56. Makes you want to cry does it not, Number23?
I have not been far away from tears lately. This Op makes me so ashamed of America and the ugliness of racism.
The Op was for Michael? Sadly no. It was to bash Holder and Obama and take away any respect for the child that died. The one that was left in the street for four hours in the hot sun. Michael was left there as a show of power by the white man, just like the lynching's of the past, you are nothing, so don't fuck with us. They are all black and so sadly they mean nothing for some. I doubt that he even knew Michaels name, he was black after all. I am sorry, Number23. I am so sorry. |
Response to Number23 (Reply #55)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:09 AM
Spazito (46,789 posts)
58. Yes, it is truly sickening...
it takes a small person to take such delight in posting the OPs they have posted tonight.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:02 PM
madville (7,020 posts)
25. I expect the DOJ to evaluate the evidence and testimony
And make an informed and unbiased decision, that's the most important thing in our system. They can't factor in the emotion of the aftermath or the public outcry, it all has to come from the evidence and testimony.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:27 PM
Township75 (3,535 posts)
46. You need to find someone else. He is too busy with he civil rights charges against Zimmerman.
Gonna nail him to the wall.
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Response to Township75 (Reply #46)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:12 AM
GGJohn (9,951 posts)
62. I hope this is a tongue in cheek comment,
because, so far, haven't seen anything on the Zman yet, and I don't expect to either.
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Response to GGJohn (Reply #62)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:46 AM
Township75 (3,535 posts)
66. It is
The admin will give a nice speech about the need to attack racial profiling and discrimination and will launch some garbage investigation to appease the masses until the is a new issue for them to focus on....which might be the Super Bowl
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Response to Township75 (Reply #66)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:52 AM
GGJohn (9,951 posts)
67. I thought it was.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:38 PM
badtoworse (5,957 posts)
51. I think it is unlikely that Holder will pursue Civil Rights charges.
There is no question that Brown had robbed the convenience store and Wilson had an accurate description of Brown before he confronted him which gave him probable cause. Unless the feds reach a different conclusion as to whether the use of deadly force was justified, I believe that a lack of probable cause is the only basis for a civil rights charge.
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Response to U4ikLefty (Reply #57)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:15 AM
KingCharlemagne (7,908 posts)
64. Do you put those liars on 'Ignore' or do you leave them up, so you can
see their lies and call them out?
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Response to KingCharlemagne (Reply #64)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:16 PM
U4ikLefty (4,012 posts)
78. I have nobody on Ignore.
I want them to keep digging so I (or others) can refute their ignorance/deception.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:44 PM
sheshe2 (77,636 posts)
52. Yes!
You went boldly where no one else has gone.
His name was Michael. Michael Brown. You probably don't know or care about that. You take the death of a young black man, oh wait let's make that murder, because it was, then you proceed to blame the black AG Holder for not doing his job with prosecuting the banks? So cold and crass Manny, you show your true colors once again. Seems everytime I or others point that out we get hides from you. Yes indeed, the world is watching how the white privileged will be reacting in Ferguson. |
Response to sheshe2 (Reply #52)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 06:53 AM
SidDithers (44,228 posts)
59. Nailed it...nt
Sid
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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #52)
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Response to msanthrope (Reply #68)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 03:44 PM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
76. I hid your posts?
Interesting.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #76)
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 08:38 AM
bahrbearian (13,466 posts)
60. K&R for Sid and sheshe2, kittywampus and Bobbie Jo
Response to bahrbearian (Reply #60)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:09 AM
Bobbie Jo (14,341 posts)
61. Ya know...
It's the school yard posts like this that lead people to question the sincerity and motivation behind this OP.
The flippant attitude is really rather telling. |
Response to bahrbearian (Reply #60)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:13 AM
KittyWampus (55,894 posts)
63. show your true colors for all to see.
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:25 AM
99Forever (14,524 posts)
65. The AG is supposed to do a job?
Eric Holder has proved he can collect the paycheck without ever doing ANYTHING for We the People.
Worst. Fucking. AG. EVER. |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:36 PM
MFrohike (1,980 posts)
71. He did his job
He refused to prosecute, hell investigate, some of the greatest crimes in American history. He claimed (at different times), there was no crime, he couldn't prosecute because it would hurt the economy, through Lanny Breuer that no witnesses had come forward, that he would prosecute, and then that the likely opposing counsel was too smart for DOJ (another subordinate made this claim). I don't get how you say he's not doing his job when he's that busy working up excuses for failing to prosecute.
As for civil rights, he's filed a few suits and made some speeches. Great. Any success on that front? Is the current investigation going to go anywhere? Oh, that's right, the leaks of the past couple of months make it clear that it's not. It's simply being "continued" because to shut it down too early would expose the reality that it was always just for show. Eric Holder is doing his job and he's doing it damn well. It's just not the job you thought he was supposed to be doing. |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 03:31 PM
ProfessorGAC (56,785 posts)
75. Sorry. I Nodded Off Reading Your Post
Did you say something? I mean something other than the usual bleating?
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:29 PM
ucrdem (15,502 posts)
79. The DOJ has two open investigations of the Michael Brown shooting in Ferguson:
The Department of Justice has two open investigations: one of Wilson and the other of the police treatment of Ferguson protesters. By Alessandria Masi on November 24 2014 There are currently two open Department of Justice investigations related to Brown’s death: One probe into Wilson and the other into the Ferguson Police Department’s practices, according to McClatchy. The first could find Wilson guilty of violating Brown’s civil rights. The DOJ must prove “without a reasonable doubt” that Wilson knowingly and intentionally “deprived” Brown of “a right or privilege protected by the Constitution of laws of the United States,” according to federal law via McClatchy. However, experts don’t believe this is a likely outcome.
“Criminal enforcement of constitutional rights is not something that is easily pursued, Samuel Bagenstos, a University of Michigan law professor, recently told the Associated Press. It really requires building a case very carefully, very painstakingly.” The DOJ and several civil rights organizations are investigating a possible case against the Ferguson Police Department for mistreatment of protesters who have been almost daily fixtures on Ferguson's streets since August. The DOJ is also investigating the department's practices and relationship with constituents prior to Brown’s death. When protests began, some police officers were seen wearing “I am Darren Wilson” bracelets. “The expressive accessory itself is exacerbating an already tense atmosphere between law enforcement and residents in Ferguson,” according to a letter from the DOJ to the Ferguson chief of police. “These bracelets reinforce the very 'us versus them' mentality that many residents of Ferguson believe exists.” more: http://www.ibtimes.com/ferguson-indictment-officer-darren-wilson-ferguson-police-department-could-still-face-1728858 |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:29 PM
woo me with science (32,139 posts)
80. K&R. And it's time for Obama to do his.
And that job extends beyond pretty speeches.
When do these programs end? ____________________________________________________________________________
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:39 AM
marble falls (47,684 posts)
81. You got it exactly right manny. No one else has been able to get justice, its up to the DOJ to do...
its mandated job. Justice delayed is justice denied.
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