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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 08:33 PM Nov 2014

#HandsUpDontSpend: African Americans call to boycott Black Friday over Ferguson decision

If you agree, please spread the word..thank you.

Activists plan to protest grand jury decision with economic boycott on major US shopping weekend.

Black consumers plan to protest with their wallets over what they say is a failure of justice in Ferguson, Missouri. On Monday, a grand jury decided not to indict police officer Darren Wilson on any charges in the August 9 shooting of Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager.

The Justice for Michael Brown Leadership Coalition is calling for a national boycott of Black Friday, a major US shopping holiday that follows Thanksgiving, and throughout the weekend. Organiser Dacia Polk told St. Louis radio, "Until this nation begins to place value on black lives, there will be no value placed on this business because black lives matter.”

Boycott advocates hope they can harness African Americans' collective purchasing power, an estimated one trillion dollars. Organisers also plan to walk through malls in silent protest.

Boycott supporters tweeted using #BoycottBlackFriday , #BrownFriday , and #HandsUpDontSpend , a reference to the "hands up don't shoot" chant from many Ferguson protests.

http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/201411251817-0024376
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#HandsUpDontSpend: African Americans call to boycott Black Friday over Ferguson decision (Original Post) Jefferson23 Nov 2014 OP
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Would you please delete that and feel free to post your own thread on Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #4
They are having a fun first day on the DU. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #5
Ugh...but you're right of course, they're infiltrating today...thanks, SKP. Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #8
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Back so soon? arcane1 Nov 2014 #32
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Kindly delete your posts, that's all I asked..please. Don't do this here in this thread. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #9
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Derailing a thread is not appropriate. Bye. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #12
goatmilker has left the building. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #59
I noticed that..lol Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #61
I'm not spending crap, this went viral today.. My nieces, my aunts...everyone had decided not uponit7771 Nov 2014 #2
Great to hear this is going viral. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #3
done deal. I want to help roguevalley Nov 2014 #64
Oh shoot....I'll have to change my plans. RichGirl Nov 2014 #7
Same here spinbaby Nov 2014 #10
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They're asking throughout the entire holiday weekend. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #26
This could be the time to turn to the true spirit of Christmas avebury Nov 2014 #13
+1..fantastic. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #14
It would be wonderful if the masses would turn avebury Nov 2014 #18
Sparks can do that..we'll see. Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #19
No way! Nevernose Nov 2014 #40
That is what I am talking about. avebury Nov 2014 #58
Technically I've joined the boycott...I avoid stores on black friday... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #16
It is important for something tangible to be expressed and hopefully to build momentum, I feel. Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #20
Unfortunately, too many people/companies only respond to something joeybee12 Nov 2014 #47
Oh yea, agree, completely. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #51
I'm In! Thanks Jefferson! Cha Nov 2014 #17
I had a feeling you would stop by..thank you, Cha! Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #21
Glad people are so serious about this.. and why wouldn't we be? Cha Nov 2014 #22
Has to begin somewhere, in some organized fashion..it's time. Hopefully there will be a Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #23
This reminds me of those "don't buy gas on Tuesdays" boycotts NobodyHere Nov 2014 #24
Here: Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #25
So they spend their money after Black Friday. NobodyHere Nov 2014 #27
I'm not trying to be rude..the post I left for you refers to the entire holiday weekend with Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #29
The silent protest is fine as for keeping people aware of the issue. NobodyHere Nov 2014 #31
Has to start somewhere, then see how it is received? That does not seem unreasonable to me. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #33
I wish the organizers the best of luck in their endeavor. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #30
+1. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #34
I'm not much of a shopper and Jenoch Nov 2014 #35
Ok, then maybe you can participate here: Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #37
I have a personal aversion to malls. Jenoch Nov 2014 #42
Then you can recommend the effort to your friends who do not have an aversion to malls. Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #44
I will attempt to get my family members Jenoch Nov 2014 #48
There ya go...thanks. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #50
Eh, won't do any good. Black Friday has been transforming for years now. maced666 Nov 2014 #36
Throughout the weekend and a silent protest through malls. Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #39
then don't do it noiretextatique Nov 2014 #68
a productive ongoing boycott would be to expand the flushrush and stoprush efforts to all certainot Nov 2014 #38
I read a bit of what was written on your link. Jenoch Nov 2014 #45
i've listened for 25 years. the national talkers seldom take unscreened confrontational certainot Nov 2014 #56
I don't know about the particular software you mentioned. Jenoch Nov 2014 #57
thanks for checking out the site. i haven't seen it like that. limbaugh's got the best certainot Nov 2014 #63
I still think the biggest reason Jenoch Nov 2014 #65
Maybe they should start meeting and teaching each other how to run a business, pool their money, and jtuck004 Nov 2014 #41
are you willing to take your own advice noiretextatique Nov 2014 #69
Given that I am one of the 10 million people moved into near poverty during this administration, jtuck004 Nov 2014 #70
Glad to see this - we had already planned to boycott Friday rurallib Nov 2014 #43
This old white person will be proud to stand with communities of color, ie. "my fellow Americans,".. TinkerTot55 Nov 2014 #46
Excellent. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #54
For a combined effect, WalMart workers are also protesting eridani Nov 2014 #49
Good for them....thanks. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #52
This is the only way the powers that be ellie Nov 2014 #53
Me too. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #55
Never shopped Thespian2 Nov 2014 #60
Thank you for that. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #62
K/R and be sure to let a store or two know about why you aren't shopping. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #66
Yes..thanks again for the kick too. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #67
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K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2014 #72
Protesters target Black Friday sales in Ferguson Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #73

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uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
2. I'm not spending crap, this went viral today.. My nieces, my aunts...everyone had decided not
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 08:42 PM
Nov 2014

... to spend even before talking to each other about it

Once we saw the evening news I could tell how much they were hurting...

They're not spending shit this Friday... might make scratch but it's actions that could be taken

RichGirl

(4,119 posts)
7. Oh shoot....I'll have to change my plans.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 08:50 PM
Nov 2014

My plan was to not go shopping...but now I have to plan on shopping and not go...so I can boycott.

spinbaby

(15,088 posts)
10. Same here
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 08:58 PM
Nov 2014

Black Friday is always buy-nothing day at our house. We spend the day at home eating leftovers and watching old movies.

Response to spinbaby (Reply #10)

avebury

(10,951 posts)
13. This could be the time to turn to the true spirit of Christmas
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:04 PM
Nov 2014

instead of mindless shopping. For example giving the gift of your time like volunteering at a nursing home, volunteering at a animal shelter, volunteering as an advocate for at risk children, and so on. You can give your time to elderly relatives who could use help aroung their home. You can always donate to a worthy cause on behalf of someone that you bought a gift for in the past, particularly if you choose a cause dear to the heart of your loved one.

One year our office decide to forgo gift giving and collect money for the backpack program. For every $200 they receive, a child gets a backpack of food every weekend to help them have enough to eat.

avebury

(10,951 posts)
18. It would be wonderful if the masses would turn
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:11 PM
Nov 2014

their back on the materialism of the 1%ers and instead take back this country strictly be choosing to adopt a better sense of values where the sense of true communities can be developed. If the masses would decide to pull together it would be hard for the elite to pull us apart. That is the kind of stance that the elite would not know how to deal with.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
40. No way!
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:16 PM
Nov 2014

Friday's the day I finally get to rest after busting my butt for the last week getting the Thanksgiving baskets ready for our Title I students. Next week we have to start getting the Christmas baskets ready and the angel tree ready, plus this weekend I've got to write my guardian ad litem court report and finish my class on the effects of trauma on children in the foster care system.

I was a little flippant, sorry. You make a good point, but you also illustrate my pet peeve: we can make the world a better place all year long, not just because it's the holidays."

I don't believe in an afterlife, but I do believe that it's our responsibility to leave this world better than we found it.

avebury

(10,951 posts)
58. That is what I am talking about.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:02 PM
Nov 2014

If the masses made the decision to adopt a different life style that is not about I, I, I, Me, Me, Me and become more active in their communities there would be more unification as a people. Being a participant in your community does not require that you have a lot of money but can be about giving of yourself and your talent and matching up wants and needs. It becomes about being their for the elderly as well as the children. You choose to create a society that works for all and is not about serving the needs of the uber wealthy. It could become all about taking back this country. The last thing that the 1%ers and MIC want if for the masses to get along and learn to work together against them.

We need a 21st century version of Gandhi or Martin Luther King Jr.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
16. Technically I've joined the boycott...I avoid stores on black friday...
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:08 PM
Nov 2014

Hope this hurts businesses...

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
20. It is important for something tangible to be expressed and hopefully to build momentum, I feel.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:21 PM
Nov 2014

Thanks.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
47. Unfortunately, too many people/companies only respond to something
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:29 PM
Nov 2014

when it affects them monetarily.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
23. Has to begin somewhere, in some organized fashion..it's time. Hopefully there will be a
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:37 PM
Nov 2014

measurable response, we'll see.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
25. Here:
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:45 PM
Nov 2014
The Justice for Michael Brown Leadership Coalition is calling for a national boycott of Black Friday, a major US shopping holiday that follows Thanksgiving, and throughout the weekend. Organiser Dacia Polk told St. Louis radio, "Until this nation begins to place value on black lives, there will be no value placed on this business because black lives matter.”

Boycott advocates hope they can harness African Americans' collective purchasing power, an estimated one trillion dollars. Organisers also plan to walk through malls in silent protest.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
29. I'm not trying to be rude..the post I left for you refers to the entire holiday weekend with
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:56 PM
Nov 2014

silent protests through malls.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
31. The silent protest is fine as for keeping people aware of the issue.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:01 PM
Nov 2014

But any boycott should be long lasting until certain demands are met.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
30. I wish the organizers the best of luck in their endeavor.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:00 PM
Nov 2014

Until the whole damn country understands that ALL lives matter.....we have work to do.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
35. I'm not much of a shopper and
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:09 PM
Nov 2014

I don't usually make a big deal about Black Friday, but I think it is not a good idea to boycott the locally owned businesses. Sure, boycott Walmart and Radio Shack (are there still Radio Shacks?), but I will go out of my way to buy from an independant, locally-owned store or restaurant.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
37. Ok, then maybe you can participate here:
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:13 PM
Nov 2014

*Organizers also plan to walk through malls in silent protest.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
42. I have a personal aversion to malls.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:17 PM
Nov 2014

I have not been inside an indoor mall since 2010. That visit was in Arizona and I was looking for a public blood pressure machine for my then 78 year old father. I'm spending the Thanksgiving weekend with my father before he flies south for the winter.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
44. Then you can recommend the effort to your friends who do not have an aversion to malls.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:19 PM
Nov 2014

Have a happy Thanksgiving.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
48. I will attempt to get my family members
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:30 PM
Nov 2014

who come to our home for Thanksgiving to skip the Black Friday shopping.

 

maced666

(771 posts)
36. Eh, won't do any good. Black Friday has been transforming for years now.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:13 PM
Nov 2014

Sales well into Thursday, sales before, sales after. And boycotting a day does no good if you go and shop for whatever a week later anyway.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
38. a productive ongoing boycott would be to expand the flushrush and stoprush efforts to all
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:14 PM
Nov 2014

republicon radio, which has been instrumental in making excuses for wilson and the cops and the racism, just like they did for zimmerman, attacking and demonizing "thugs" travon martin and mike brown and their communities and families and protestors for daring to stand up.

it enables prosecutors like mcculloch and the republican party to use these tragedies/crimes for political purposes and gives them confidence ot try anything and get aawy with it because they know the talk radio teabaggers will be getting their backs unanimously.

it is also true that republicon radio depends heavily on college and pro sports teams and their african american athletes. more than 28 % (170) of limbaughs stations do (70+ universities).

getting those schools to honor their mission statements and look for apolitical alternatives would destroy that massive propaganda operation and the racism and hate it generates for the GOP.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
45. I read a bit of what was written on your link.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:26 PM
Nov 2014

There was a statement that right wing talkshow hosts never take calls from people who disagree with them. I have a lot of years experience in the broadcasting and media relations business. Talkshow hosts, from either the conservative or liberal side, or even an apolitical talkshow host LOVE taking calls on-air with people who call in to disagree with them. Their egos demand it.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
56. i've listened for 25 years. the national talkers seldom take unscreened confrontational
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:48 PM
Nov 2014

callers. they do love a set up call where the liberal is an idiot of someone with an accent of inflection. i have also heard what sounded like a series of callers working together to sell, for istance, the talking points used to sell the iraq attack. i've been banned, a friend of mine just got banned.

they also have their pet callers. the locals that i know do take liberals sometimes but are quick with the cutoff button. it's a great opportunity for liberals to be heard by tens of thousands and if they're quick and good it counts.

most liberal talkers i've heard love con talkers and like thom hartmann and randi rhodes (used to) move them to the front of the line. no con talkers do that.

i've seen screenshots of some of the call screening software they use but can't find it anymore- like they took it off, but i haven't checked recently. have you ever seen that stuff? where the good callers are happy faces etc and the liberals are devil emoticons..... that could be used to bump paid callers from think tanks etc to the top of the line.



 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
57. I don't know about the particular software you mentioned.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:59 PM
Nov 2014

Limbaugh does not get many callers who disagree with him because most liberals will not make the effort to try and get through. I do know that if a calker who does disagree with him gets to the screener, that call is usually bumped to the top of the list. I am sure there are local hosts across the country who avoid callees who challenge them, but they are in the minority, I am quite sure. (I first went into the broadcasting business years before talk radio became a common format.)

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
63. thanks for checking out the site. i haven't seen it like that. limbaugh's got the best
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:18 PM
Nov 2014

screeners in the business. if they disagree its VERY uncommon and usually they get dumped and he gets pissed at snerdley or whoever. one caller managed to get through and punk him (mike something) a few times- great stuff. but with that call screening software they can prioritize their callers. there are callers they let through 'regularly' but then some caller gets through that says " i love you rush and i'm so excited, i've been calling for years and never got through". limabaugh has to be very selective or they'd get a load of racist goobers getting through. it is useless for any liberal caller to try to get through unless they're as savy as mike.

hannity is so stupid they have to be very careful. many of his sound like paid callers and they love the ones with accents and urban drawls/

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
65. I still think the biggest reason
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:26 PM
Nov 2014

Limbaugh does not get too many calls disagreeing with him is because there are not too many liberals who will go throufh the torture of trying to get in.

I am notva listener of Limbaugh. I will confess to listening to his show during Gulf Storm. I had recently moved to a market that broadcast his program. There was a lot of national pride at kicking Sadaam's ass. It's too bad the U.N. Did not allow the coalition to finish the job. Of course that might have just accelerated the pace to what Iraq is today.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
41. Maybe they should start meeting and teaching each other how to run a business, pool their money, and
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:17 PM
Nov 2014

start buying Ferguson. Mondragon started under a dictator that was killing the people, with a police that replaced one murdered by the dictator's police, and among people with not enough education. Today they control their own destiny, no longer asking, and the dictator is dust.

The little bit of rioting is understandable, though it is just inflammatory. The boycott could show how much money black folk spend in the economy, but I doubt most folks will get it, so they need to build on it. And there doesn't seem to be much of a demand, other than "respect us", which isn't going to happen.

On the other hand they could pool that money use it to gain power. Then they could make that city, and others, what it could be. Find people who want to work together, (if they include all colors, it would be even stronger) and take that place over.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
70. Given that I am one of the 10 million people moved into near poverty during this administration,
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 03:04 PM
Nov 2014

who watched while the criminals in the banks were made richer than they ever have been in history (now THAT is a riot, eh?) as a matter of policy because, we were and are told "it's good for us"...

Fuck yeah!!

I am kinda doing it by default anyway, so I don't need you to tell me what to do. Never have, never will.

Just out of curiosity, does the boycott have a demand? Anything concrete which could be measured, or is it supposedly to prove a point?

It will take some money out, but does anyone really think people who make $500,000 a minute give a flying rat's ass about some pissy amount Americans spend, btw? We are net importers, which means they are making the majority of their money outside this country. Who this will impact are a few stockholders, and whatever employees they don't need to not sell some shit.The money this country makes them is simply not that big a percentage to get all worked up about. The impact will be local, and might well hurt people they didn't intend to hurt.

That is not a problem if there is a strategy to achieve something. In Montgomery they wanted to ride as equals, in other actions it was to get a the Civil Rights bill passed or open a school system. There is a specific demand, and the action continue until they win, quit, or die.

So, does this boycott have a demand? I haven't heard.

Or is this just a bunch of loudmouths egging on something that may well hurt people who have very little, while the instigators won't feel very much at all?









rurallib

(62,379 posts)
43. Glad to see this - we had already planned to boycott Friday
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:17 PM
Nov 2014

first for Walmart workers and then when this travesty happened it pretty much told me quit supporting the bastards.

TinkerTot55

(198 posts)
46. This old white person will be proud to stand with communities of color, ie. "my fellow Americans,"..
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:29 PM
Nov 2014

...to do ABSOLUTELY no shopping on Friday and through the weekend.

As with the bus boycotts during the Southern Civil Rights struggle, economic clout ( and the withholding of such ) can accomplish MUCH more than people realize.

Sales occurring this weekend are used as a prediction of holiday sales, and mark the period when many businesses begin to turn a profit for the year.

Calling for a boycott, and having a successful boycott, in ALL spending activities, will hit TPTB* right where it will hurt them the most: in $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
49. For a combined effect, WalMart workers are also protesting
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:31 PM
Nov 2014
Walmart Workers Strike as They Gear up for Largest Black Friday Protest Yet

http://www.nationofchange.org/2014/11/20/walmart-workers-strike-gear-largest-black-friday-protest-yet/



Twenty-three Walmart workers were arrested last Thursday for blocking an intersection in Pico Rivera, Calif., outside a Walmart store in the Los Angeles suburb. Those arrested are part of a larger movement of Walmart and other low-wage workers across the country demanding not only higher wages, but better hours, working conditions and an end to corporate retaliation against their organizing efforts.

Thursday’s arrests followed a historic sit-down strike in another Los Angeles-area Walmart store, in which off-duty workers placed green tape with the word “Strike” written on it over their mouths. Protesters lined store aisles as customers walked by, chanting “Stand up, Live Better! Sit Down, Live Better!”

The sit-down strike is an old favorite in the labor movement, and a recent favorite among the low-wage workers rapidly joining it. The tactic was popularized in the 1930s, when workers with the freshly founded United Auto Workers “sat down” on a General Motors assembly line in the company’s heart, Flint, Mich., to secure union recognition. The UAW strike was meticulously planned, after researchers found that there were only two GM plants in the country that produced the dies out of which car bodies are made: shutting down the Flint plant, Fisher Body Plant Number One, essentially meant shutting down General Motors.

As labor historian Phillip Dray writes in “There Is Power in a Union,” auto makers were especially vulnerable to sit-down strikes because “manufacturing in the auto industry was based on the continuous flow of production, and the cessation of work by even a handful of men in one department could bring an entire plant to a halt.” When the strike ended after a recognition agreement was reached in early February, the UAW’s membership grew exponentially — from 30,000 to 500,000 workers nationwide in the year after the strike.
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
66. K/R and be sure to let a store or two know about why you aren't shopping.
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 12:02 AM
Nov 2014

That will make a big difference.

Not going without letting them know is less powerful, I think.

Response to Jefferson23 (Original post)

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
73. Protesters target Black Friday sales in Ferguson
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 10:13 AM
Nov 2014


By Edward McAllister and Daniel Wallis

FERGUSON, Mo. Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:28am EST

(Reuters) - Protesters in Ferguson, Missouri began targeting Black Friday sales at major retailers overnight in a new tactic to vent their anger at a grand jury decision not to indict a white police officer who fatally shot an unarmed black teen.

Kicking off their latest strategy inside a Walmart in another nearby suburb of St. Louis, about 75 demonstrators protested peacefully, chanting "Hands up, don't shoot!", bemusing bargain-hunters pushing their brimming shopping carts.

They dispersed peacefully when ordered by a small group of police, moving on to a Target store where they staged a similar demonstration. More protests were planned for Friday.

Ferguson became a flashpoint for often troubled U.S. race relations after officer Darren Wilson shot dead Michael Brown on Aug. 9. The U.S. Justice Department is probing possible civil rights abuses, and President Barack Obama has called for reflection on the difficulties minorities face in the country.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/28/us-usa-missouri-shooting-blackfridaysale-idUSKCN0JC0CY20141128
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